Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[xXx: State of the Union]

That stopped after the late 2000s when you were no longer allowed to see Muslims as enemies.

Makes one long for the days of Fugitive Hunter

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Makes one long for the days of Fugitive Hunter

That was a far more innocent time. A time when we enjoyed games that were fun for fun's sake.

Quite possibly the biggest mistake Jews ever made by empowering the Muslim Left. Had they kept the propaganda up, more people would be okay with fucking Hamas to death.

Now the Hebrews are targeted by the Left as western imperialists. Which does have an inkling of truth, Israel brought western, European civilization to that oil-drenched sand-hole we call the Middle East.

That just makes it odd when Left-leaning Jews try to subvert Western Civilization and its conservative, Christian roots, only to be added to the target list by the rest of the Leftists when the latter decide that the Hebrews are part of the same Western Civilization they wish to overthrow. It happened in Russia, where the Jewish Old Bolsheviks got purged by Stalin, and it's happening here now.

Right now, the Jews' best friends are the conservatives like Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump, the latter of whom not only married his children to Jews, but is also a strong ally of Netanyahu, and the former is inviting Jewish students who are tired of antisemitism in their colleges to go study in Florida universities instead.

Going back to video games, I think Nintendo is going to continue dominating the market. If only because repeating successful formulas and selling party games for soccer moms to play with their kids is far more successful than whatever Microsoft, Sony, or Steam are up to. If there's one market that will always be healthy, it's soccer moms and kids, and aside from microtransaction games and Minecraft, the big boy that dominates that stuff is Nintendo.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It's not that gaming is male-dominated, it's that the games women like are so alien to men that men call them "non-games." Women love games, play tons of them, and drive piles of gaming revenue, they're just games that men find stupid and boring. But on the flip side, the games men like are by and large yucky and gross to women. Driving cars super fast? Bursting zombie skulls? Conquering the world? Ew!!! Why are the things men like so gross!!!!

True, but that's a more "recent" thing (basically when Facebook and phone games took off). Before it really was male-dominated, though supposedly the male centric marketing only really began during the 3rd gen, before being more family oriented.

Going back to video games, I think Nintendo is going to continue dominating the market.

We can only hope, they better just not fumble Switch 2.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

There's probably no reason to play much Vidya past the age of 30. It's an arena to explore and play pretend so you know what to do in real life. If you go past that you're either in it professionally or lack something in life. Doesn't mean the occassional game for nostalgia sake or trying out a new hobby virtually is bad but playing games as a hobby probably is.

This is unpopular because it's true and we all know it.

Kinda struggling with this myself a bit. I know it fills a bit of a void even though I don't want to admit it. One could say it's the same with any hobby. But if you're interested in racing you might as well go for a real car at this point, if you're interested in guns get a real gun, if you're wanting to explore something then explore it. RPG fan? Go RPG trying to get a deal or get a girl or get in somewhere.

This can be hard. I tried to earn my happiness through hobbies and self-improvement. It can go a ways when I'm back home, but when I cross state borders the energy drains from me. There are things I can enjoy, like trying to play my fiddle, that are attractive back home, but not in my apartment. I've likewise tried to summon the energy to try new things, but it's all gone now, there's very little left. I rally myself every now and then.

Games make everything so much easier and accessible but what they offer is less than the real thing.

I was rambling to myself (I talk to myself a lot) one day and on occasion I learn new things. I suppose I mostly talk to myself because I've always liked talking, even the physical act of it, but I hate people anymore and keep away from them. Anyways, I'm babbling to myself about the logic of how reward systems work in games. How games usually have currency that you earn to spend on things. And it proves that people enjoy work and reward. Not just accomplishment - many games have no competitive aspect, no skill as such, no meaningful sense of victory that people, usually boomers, fixate on - but toil. But people don't enjoy hard work. Or long work. They like to feel a sense of ordering their environment and acquiring things, and so they prefer a game that denies them things like outfits or certain weapons or vehicles upfront. What I learned was I mused to myself about how it is just easier to be productive at these tasks than it is at finishing my real work here. But there is a meaningful distinction between accomplishment and productivity. Some people, though (mostly multiplayer game addicts) do specifically get accomplishment from it.

But I think so about other things too, like people who play chess. Chess was used as an abstraction to teach and expand strategic thinking and prepare people for literal or figurative war. If you take chess seriously it's like taking the abstraction seriously. Instead of applying it to reality you apply it to itself. Its a waste.

You just blew your post. Just go be a general in a war brah.

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

How do I quote a lager post? It seems that posts randomly are quotable or not quotable, irrespective of their actual length.

Anyway @Ughubughughughughughghlug you're right. People want that sense of reward and accomplishment and there is often a division between their direct contributions to something in say a work environment and their actual reward or sense of accomplishment so games act as a surrogate for this kind of thing.

Profit sharing in companies is nice thing but it doesn't quite cut it. That's why folks who become self-employed or start small businesses feel such great pride and joy and even a sense of freedom coming with it. Even if they work longer hours, even if they don't end up earning as much as they wanted. Each small action or change to something has a direct impact.

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And about chess, you missed my point a bit. Chess was never about larping as a general, it was about learning strategic thinking, learning to anticipate your opponent, etc. It was to prepare you for war or war like situations: Business is war some say, politics too. You dont have to be a general. Anyway, what ever the case, it's not about being a general or a business leader or a politician.

Maybe playing chess or other games like that is good for you occassionally but only if you treat is an abstraction.
If you end up playing chess not as a means to an end but as an end goal in itself then it's a waste of effort.

People who memorize opening moves in chess for example are wasting the potential chess gives them to react to and anticipate and resolve problems on the fly. They made the game a reason onto itself. With the exception that a very few might enjoy memorization excercises but then there are plenty of other ways to do that than to play chess.

Anyway I'm not a hundred percent sold on my argument. There's obviously just the free time we spend on meaningless activities to relax and have some fun, gaming could be part of that but that's not the type of gaming we're talking about when you for example mention reward mechanics. That's triggering something else and done for other purposes than simple entertainment as you're keenly aware of.

 

[Chuck McGill]

But as long as we can live through these fantasies in a game, there's less of a chance we will actually embark on them in real life - cause we get our fix - and that's a sad, depressing thing.

>just gotta meet a nice girl and just go buy a farm somewhere sonny jim, it's literally that easy!
Alright gramps, back to bed with you.

The reason there's less of a chance of buying a farm in the middle of nowhere is because of inflation and corporate consolidation making that financially infeasible for the average person. (((They))) need warm bodies in a corporate office more than they need warm bodies in the middle of nowhere, so they place that option out of reach for the average person. I don't think people playing Stardew Valley for the few hours they have between wageslaving and sleeping had all that much to do with it. Getting a little discipline, putting down the controller and being a MAN is not going to do jack diddly fucking shit about the fact that we live in one of the most expensive times to live in history outside of maybe the Weimar Relublic. There's unpopular takes then there's this retard boomer shit.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

As an atheist, I can confirm.

It's not as if Christianity doesn't deserve it. They have major problems. Just look at something like Theremin Trees or any of the Christian episodes of Cinema Snob. Where it becomes a problem is when it's spineless fedora tipping.

I mean, if atheists look in the mirror and look at all their problems, it makes Christianity's problems seem minor in comparison. Cinema Snob just seems to go for shitty religious movies when there's plenty of good religious movies out there, especially the ones about saints.

We can only hope, they better just not fumble Switch 2.

We can only hope. The Switch is finding success while PS5 and Xbox Series X/S is finding failure.

 

[DavidS877]

How do I quote a lager post? It seems that posts randomly are quotable or not quotable, irrespective of their actual length.

Usually posts that look short trigger the no-full-quote when they have spoilers or something or already quoted a longer post.

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[Pissmaster]

The opinion is about video games and who do I berate? Myself? I m stating that Im literally struggling with the dilemma that I'm describing.
Please quote me where I'm berating someone for stating their opinion. Im berating the hobby of video gaming, that's my opinion. But anyone is of course entitled to theirs. I think I also acknowledge the positive effects it might have on someone who has autism and struggles to socialize otherwise, don't I?

So you'd rather be dating a one dimensional character in a video game or what? Why not try hardmode that is iRL? Heck a lot of girls might be starting to feel the same way but you'll never know about each other. Unless you're both playing some MMORPG or something I guess

And yes, that's a fantasy among especiall the young urban tech professionals and economists. That's why there's almost a flight to the countryside from the urban cities for the first time in centuries. Even Marie Antoniette had a farm to fuck off from the pressures of the royal court.

Maybe the solution is to go farming, instead of living that life in a game while having your soul drained in an office?
I realize it's not easy, I've gone in some similar thoughts of abandoning my life and opening a little pub/In somewhere in the countryside for example.

But as long as we can live through these fantasies in a game, there's less of a chance we will actually embark on them in real life - cause we get our fix - and that's a sad, depressing thing.


WIth VR and AI its gonna get even worse. We should stop this while we still can.

Anyway @Ughubughughughughughghlug you're right. People want that sense of reward and accomplishment and there is often a division between their direct contributions to something in say a work environment and their actual reward or sense of accomplishment so games act as a surrogate for this kind of thing.

This guy comes off like a college student who feels like he's got life by the horns, and he's so pumped up, he's become an advice dispenser. What a guy.

There's probably no reason to play much Vidya past the age of 30. It's an arena to explore and play pretend so you know what to do in real life. If you go past that you're either in it professionally or lack something in life. Doesn't mean the occassional game for nostalgia sake or trying out a new hobby virtually is bad but playing games as a hobby probably is.

You couldn't make it more clear that you're not even close to turning 30.

How do I quote a lager post?

Maybe you should have a lager and relax.

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

You guys are getting triggered hard. Jeez.

You couldn't make it more clear that you're not even close to turning 30.

This one guy is telling me I'm far below 30.
Wheras this other guy is calling me gramps.

>just gotta meet a nice girl and just go buy a farm somewhere sonny jim, it's literally that easy!
Alright gramps, back to bed with you.

Cute.



I like this quote system though, thanks lads.

The reason there's less of a chance of buying a farm in the middle of nowhere is because of inflation and corporate consolidation making that financially infeasible for the average person. (((They))) need warm bodies in a corporate office more than they need warm bodies in the middle of nowhere, so they place that option out of reach for the average person. I don't think people playing Stardew Valley for the few hours they have between wageslaving and sleeping had all that much to do with it. Getting a little discipline, putting down the controller and being a MAN is not going to do jack diddly fucking shit about the fact that we live in one of the most expensive times to live in history outside of maybe the Weimar Relublic. There's unpopular takes then there's this retard boomer shit.

No shit sherlock, so what do we do about that?
Oh, yeah, we should Somatoze ourselves even further because there's no point to it all anyway.

Imagine if we suddenly took away all games, cons00ming, booze, pills, religion from people. All those things that kept them, YOU, me docile and compliant. All those crutches. Maybe there would be some change.
Regardless, through your text its evident you know the world is messed up and you know what your doing is not what you want to be doing. I think thats what I wanted to highlight with my unpopular opinion. So thank you.

 

[The Foxtrot]

This guy comes off like a college student who feels like he's got life by the horns, and he's so pumped up, he's become an advice dispenser. What a guy.

You couldn't make it more clear that you're not even close to turning 30.

Nobody tell him that Shirley Curry, AKA the Skyrim Grandma exists (and we all love her). Or that after multiple surveys, the average age of an EVE Online player was 26. Or how many guys even "over 30" still game like crazy and gasp are just normal guys with jobs and marriages and kids.

I guess according to him, my dad's just playing FPS games as a "surrogate for real accomplishments". Sorry dad, according to this wise sage, your 10 years of service in the Army across 2 conflicts doesn't count! Wanting to play a farm sim to relax completely undoes the fact you own the house and land!

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

You guys are getting triggered hard. Jeez.

Your point may not be wrong, I guess, but nobody seems triggered.

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

You aren't wrong, I guess, but nobody seems triggered.

Well it's stirring up a bit of a ruckus, apparently I'm a 20 something grampa and thus my opinion is invalid according to some. At least the thread is living up to its title finally.

Nobody tell him that Shirley Curry, AKA the Skyrim Grandma exists (and we all love her). Or that after multiple surveys, the average age of an EVE Online player was 26. Or how many guys even "over 30" still game like crazy and gasp are just normal guys with jobs and marriages and kids.

It's even sadder kinda if people are having families and children and what not and spending that time online in a game that requires so much grind as Eve online. They could be out there building tree houses with their kids or taking them on camping trips. They could be creating meaningful engagements with the people around them and improving themselves and their community and having a lot of fun doing that.

 

[Chuck McGill]

You guys are getting triggered hard. Jeez.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Well it's stirring up a bit of a ruckus. At least the thread is living up to its title finally.

It's just standard disagreement my guy. I think your view is just idealistic.

 

[Chuck McGill]

Well it's stirring up a bit of a ruckus, apparently I'm a 20 something grampa and thus my opinion is invalid according to some. At least the thread is living up to its title finally.

This isn't reddit. You don't get a wholesome big chungus 100 upboat for posting an unpopular opinion on le unpopular opinion thread. You say some dumb shit, people are going to call you a dumb shit. The good news is your posts aren't going to get deleted for no reason and we can call each other retards and niggers all we like as we argue about it.

Retard nigger.

 

[The Foxtrot]

It's even sadder kinda if people are having families and children and what not and spending that time online in a game that requires so much grind as Eve online. They could be out there building tree houses with their kids or taking them on camping trips. They could be creating meaningful engagements with the people around them and improving themselves and their community and having a lot of fun doing that.

Yeah, my dad did all of that shit, and more. And still plays EVE Online. Hell, we play it together, we have since I got my first job and could afford my own subscription.

Mind you, you sound more like you're talking about yourself...anything you'd care to confess? You know, like how Andrew Tate claimed video games were for losers, too...and then turned out to be a human trafficker and pedophile woman-beater.

 

[BallsOfaKiwi]

It's just standard disagreement my guy. I think your view is just idealistic.

I'm just trying to find a way to escape the rat race myself and I sometimes think if more people at least could admit it to themselves that they are stuck in a loop they don't want to be, then having conversations and finding ways out or at least finding some respite from it all would be easier.

We can be slaves to our conditions but lets at least be aware of the fact that we have chains rather than willfully step into the mindset of those in the platonic cave that by the power of self-delusion refuse to even acknowledge the sun.'

Yeah, my dad did all of that shit, and more. And still plays EVE Online. Hell, we play it together, we have since I got my first job and could afford my own subscription.

Mind you, you sound more like you're talking about yourself...anything you'd care to confess?

I confessed here, I confessed earlier too.
I used to play this online game before called Tibia, it was a MMORPG and I was in this clan run by a family.
I found it kinda nice as a kid that they all played the same game. But the older I got the more stranger it felt, especially considering the time they were spending there and how this place that in a way acted like a safe space for me *away* from my parents to indeed explore my own individuality was not that for those kids.


We can agree to disagree though, but Im not sure why you're being so against this idea, dont you see any merit in what im saying?
I just think that Eve Online is replacing something for you two. But that's okay, it doesn't have to be the end of the world either.

 

[The Foxtrot]

I'm just trying to find a way to escape the rat race myself and I sometimes think if more people at least could admit it to themselves that they are stuck in a loop they don't want to be, then having conversations and finding ways out or at least finding some respite from it all would be easier.

We can be slaves to our conditions but lets at least be aware of the fact that we have chains rather than willfully step into the mindset of those in the platonic cave that aren't by the power of self-delusion refuse to even acknowledge the sun.

Nigger, speak for yourself. Don't project your failures onto other people in a desperate attempt to feel better that you are a loser.

 

[Chuck McGill]

Yeah, my dad did all of that shit, and more. And still plays EVE Online. Hell, we play it together, we have since I got my first job and could afford my own subscription.

Mind you, you sound more like you're talking about yourself...anything you'd care to confess? You know, like how Andrew Tate claimed video games were for losers, too...and then turned out to be a human trafficker and pedophile woman-beater.

I tend to notice the same thing with the anti-coomer anti-porn types. If you talk to them for long enough a lot of them will eventually slip up and admit they needed a 12-step plan to stop touching their peepee to tranny fart porn, so they're going to project that onto you and assume because they had no ability to self-moderate, you must not have that either. So we now need a wholesale ban on internet porn. For your benefit, of course.