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What toy deal? Clarify, I'm intrigued.
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"“I wanted to do this because CYBERFROG was practically designed to be a toy line” explains Van Sciver. “I had a deal with PLAYMATES TOYS back in the 1990’s, and they made a prototype that matched the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles line they were famous for producing. But alas, that deal fell through. The “Japanese Contingent” of PLAYMATES fired everyone in the Los Angeles office, or so I was told. And so the action figures never came to be.’"
I think in the end that the deal didn't make sense for Playmates. And that it was done as a sort of contingency plan if they lost the rights to something else. Someone could have taken Cyberfrog and turned it into a discount TMNT clone, but it would have required a bigger investment than just a toy prototype. It would have required at the very least an animated show.
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back in the Harris Comics days near the end of his first Cyberfrog run EVS claimed he had a toy deal for Cyberfrog And it would be like the next Ninja Turtles. Then Harris Comics went under and so did his toy deal.
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It's theoretically possible, I guess, but he's gonna have to bust his ass. The Bossman Jack and Fatrick followers were pissed that Rekieta won, so I think they might push hard to make this year their own. Nobody outside of this thread really even knew much about EVS until this Juju, Vito, and Rekieta (all way more visible to KF) started up with their bullshit.
I will say this though: Getting catfished by a dude would help his (Ethan's) chances of winning immensely. Call it a hunch.
I don't think anybody did. I always figured EVS was just gonna fade away gradually into irrelevance.
But, in retrospect, it makes sense. He always had that cushion of the Iconic Comic guys not making the money he did. With July, he doesn't have that card to play anymore. It's a serious threat to his ego. This has left him with the option of either working with unsavory critters to destroy July so he can reestablish dominance in this sektur, or realizing the game has fundamentally changed and he's not going to be able to cruise along anymore with streams bitching about Brie Larson and telling people that they should pour more money into the chronically late Cyberfrog.
Guess which one he went for.
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Who knew Sketch Therapy would be the smartest one to jump ship so early?It's theoretically possible, I guess, but he's gonna have to bust his ass. The Bossman Jack and Fatrick followers were pissed that Rekieta won, so I think they might push hard to make this year their own. Nobody outside of this thread really even knew much about EVS until this Juju, Vito, and Rekieta (all way more visible to KF) started up with their bullshit.
I will say this though: Getting catfished by a dude would help his Ethan's chances of winning immensely. Call it a hunch.
I don't think anybody did. I always figured EVS was just gonna fade away gradually into irrelevance.
But, in retrospect, it makes sense. He always had that cushion of the Iconic Comic guys not making the money he did. With July, he doesn't have that card to play anymore. It's a serious threat to his ego. This has left him with the option of either working with unsavory critters to destroy July so he can reestablish dominance in this sektur, or realizing the game has fundamentally changed and he's not going to be able to cruise along anymore with streams bitching about Brie Larson and telling people that they should pour more money into the chronically late Cyberfrog.
Guess which one he went for.
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i wouldn’t say he jumped ship. It was more like he was thrown off for being too retarded. Luckily, he got marooned on safer shores and now he looks like the smart one.
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Playmates toys around the same time went from a 53 million dollar profit in 1996 to a 114 million dollar loss in 1997. There was also a sort of chinese civil war being fought inside playmates around that time between the sons of the old owner. Harris going under was a part of it because I think they were doing all the business to get the deal, but drama inside playmates was part of it too.
I wouldn't call it smart. It started with him raging in Ethan's chat about how Ethan's mods were all traitors to Ethan and how they were hiding Sketch's chats from Ethan. That was all in his own mind of course. But when Ethan didn't solve the imaginary problem, Sketch was not happy.
Then I think he was later hypnotized by TSWG Anna. I think he has spent several years sort of stalking her and simping for her. That kept him too busy to bother with Ethan.
The guy is basically insane. Sometimes the insanity results in loyalty to someone, but that loyalty can snap in an instant when the voices in his head tell sketch something.
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i heard on one of EVS’s older streams, that Sketch suffered some sort of severe head injury in the past. He wouldn’t go much into it but, it would explain a lot of Sketch’s behavior.
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He did have a brain injury and became a ward of the state IIRC.
Here's some retard taking EVS to task 3+ years ago for exploiting Sketch Therapy's disability for superchats and then outright denying it:
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I’ve been seeing a number of people on Twitter just be absolute sick of EVS’s weird hate-obsession with Eric July. He may be getting some drama-lovers on his side, but he’s also losing the respect of a good number of people as well who just see him as pathetic and desperate these days.
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I think there is truth to that, especially given what we know about EVS now. It took him the longest time to give Sketch the boot especially when his whole chat hated the guy.
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Only to have the sketch-shaped hole in CG filled in by Captain Finity. I've taken to calling him 'Fitch Therapy'. He's quite the character. He starts personal beefs at lightning sped. He can be seen on various CGSlums shows, and in chats, flinging shit with a frequency that would make a Baboon blush.
To your point: long-time EVS supporter Kambot is now running around calling EVS a "lying piece of trash" on xitter.
He's been tilted at EVS for a while now. Having grown tired of Ethan's generally awful behavior.
Here is Kambot saying CG is no longer fun. I've seen many creators and customers alike lamenting the current state of CG.
Kam isn' one to mince words. He's always been fun to talk to. Here he is calling ReeVS a "piece of shit" and a pervert.
A full screenshot of the Ethan tweet Kam was quote-tweeting.
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Only 5 out of the 9 points in Ethan's recap are actually lies!
Great job, Ethan. Keep slaying, queen!
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So now Ethan is desperately trying to pivot the narrative to being about saving starving comic artists from Eric July and Yellow Flash.
According to Ethan, this Field Nigger Eric July is making comics artists live in their backyards, flooding their houses and making them not have family christmas. How can we not stand together with Ethan to save comics artists who Eric July is making homeless and stealing Christmas from?
Yeah Ethan. This isn't going to work anymore than the phony debate op did.
I wonder how long until he turns on Cecil for a lack of sufficient loyalty?
According to Ethan, this Field Nigger Eric July is making comics artists live in their backyards, flooding their houses and making them not have family christmas. How can we not stand together with Ethan to save comics artists who Eric July is making homeless and stealing Christmas from?
Yeah Ethan. This isn't going to work anymore than the phony debate op did.
I wonder how long until he turns on Cecil for a lack of sufficient loyalty?
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Like Cecil's fwiend Alex Stein to say something out of turn with Ethan and cause a ultimatum?
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The obsession with July isn't all that weird when you remember that Ethan is a malignant narcissist who can't countenance anyone being too successful in a space he thinks he owns (i.e. the entire indy comics scene). Whatever reasons he's giving for his absolutely unhinged preoccupation with Eric July are just window dressing for the real issue: the unqualified success that has been the Rippaverse.
He can shit on the quality of Rippa's books as if that was a factor but we all know he's shilled FAR worse on his streams. Ethan doesn't have a problem with subpar writing or art. He has a problem with an upstart with no prior industry experience making an absolute mockery of the way he and his CG kings do business. Not only did July sell millions of dollars worth of his comics, he did it without using Ethan's method, which is basically kissing Don Corleone's ring and selling through IGG exclusively.
Eric July didn't need Ethan's audience because he already had one. He didn't need Ethan's preferred storefront because he had his own. He didn't need Ethan to promote or distribute his book. He dared open up a successful business in Van Sciver territory without paying protection. The fact that Ethan considers ISOM a subpar product is just salt in the wound for him.
While I can certainly appreciate the hilarity of a guy at the forefront of what many critics consider a "hate movement" going full auto retard against the most successful black man in comics right now, I am absolutely certain this treatment would befall literally anyone who dared outshine the Sun King. Woe be to anyone in CG who makes money AND consistently gets their books out on time. IIRC, the last creator who outperformed an EVS campaign and delivered his books when he said he would was Doug Tennapel and we all saw how that turned out.
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That is the least effective of any of the criticisms of Eric July. Its not as if Comicsgate ever put out interesting or even quality products. Cyberfrog in particular can't claim any artistic superiority to Isom. The people working for Eric July on Isom are people with good reputations and a solid body of past professional work. Eric July as a writer is no better and no worse than Ethan Van Sciver as a writer. Eric July's superhero style nonsense is no worse than Ethan's 90's-guy TMNT dervative nonsense.
You can say that Isom isn't good or that its average or whatever. But if the same standard is applied back at comicsgate, the majority of whats been published is worse than Isom and the best done by comicsgate is no better than Isom.
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I think FROG is actually very able to sell. Let's give him his due. His problem is DELIVERING DELIVERING DELIVERING because like you say, too much work for the likes of EVS.
When he came up with teh action figures racket he was not doing bad at all. He took a risk if you will. This is fine and making a fortune entails risk. The problem is like @Seanut Arbuckle correctly guesses: Too much work for the likes of EVS.
Smiller, Zack, Tennapel, EVEN FUCKING LIAM FOR CRYING OUTFUCKINGLOUD look smarter nowadays by virtue of being estranged from EVS at the right time.
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So if we are to take EVS at his word, he is spending 8 to ten hours a day drawing The Rainbow Brite rip off. When in reality he is spending all day on twitter arguing with his customers, and fans. @FROG Winning!
If Ethan had any care in the world at all for Dillard, he would have offered him cash immediately, and not told the world on a live stream or twitter.
Considering in the last week Ethan went from fucking with eric, to Fucking with YellowFlush, Alex Stein, and now Geeks and Goofballs, I Imagine not long at all. Ethan Looks like he has gone Total nigger death on every one.
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Well, like @Rupin and @Strix454 said, I think his is more of a case of being pushed.
Far more surprising to me is that YF jumped ship. Though maybe that's not terribly surprising either considering EVS is floundering and the FNT side looks far more appealing in all this. Say what you want about YF, but he hasn't been able to keep this up for so long by being completely dumb.
Which, BTW, is another weird thing. I frequently agreed with EVS that the FNT crew were dopes (especially Jeremy), but now they look like paragons of reason compared to EVS . Whatever their other problems, I don't see them losing their shit because July wouldn't promote a disgusting pedo's comic book, or the pie man's ego being bruised by July soundly and legitimately beating his ass now in sales.
Oh, those are all SJWs. Trust me, brah. Trust the plan. Invest in Cyberfrog!
And yet, it's the one thing he's said in all this that I don't disagree with. I don't particularly like ISOM either. Plenty of perfectly reasonable people have expressed that opinion. Despite loathing Dick, Vito, and Riley, Null did a review of ISOM and didn't particularly care for it either. Art is subjective.
But "goodness" ain't the rubric Ethan established long ago. Ethan claimed that you can step up to him IF you have a comic as successful as Cyberfrog. He said that countless times. It was his deflection of Iconic Comics and others. I'm sure many of you also saw/heard that over the years.
Well, July did just that, and Ethan is now having a melty. I don't think he has anything in his tired playbook to handle this situation. So he flails around and prays Dax, Vito, Riley, and Rekieta can somebody take him out so things can go back as before. It's pathetic.
I'm so sick and tired of these faggots that turn on a camera and act as if the world owes them.