One amazing thing about this war is how both sides, but especially the ukie side, has forgotten all the basics about hiding equipment in tree lines.
The USSR was onto something when they decided that the ideal city was 200-500k. Big cities really are IQ shredders.
I understand what you mean but what works for us may not be what works best for the Ukraine right now. Survival rates in Iraq/Afghanistan were fantastic because we had a set up that was able to treat casualties every step of the way, from the battlefield, on the helo and on the plane to Ramstein right before they were met by a team trained to treat their type of injuries. Ukraine is incredibly overextended and while they do manage to give their soldiers good care they simply weren't expecting level of causalities they've taken and continue to take, and we are about to hit the two year mark next month, and it will only get worse, not better. It wasn't just Azovstal, there were peeks into what happened to casualties from the Battle of Bakhmut; US Civil War levels of care, and claims of no anesthetic even for amputations.
ukie allies want to remigrate refugees and everyone claps
This is the last post I will make on this topic. I don't want to derail the thread.
You forgot to also mention the Santa hats. You did mention it in your first post but not this one. The Santa hats are stupid, out of place and possibly unhygienic.
This is kind of true I don't think camo is as useful as it once was and probably it will get even less useful. But I can imagine camo making it just a little bit harder to recognize someone if only for a second. And that second can matter a lot.
Logistics are important. It affects not only how much you can field and when and where but it also impacts how many of your wounded stay casualties or end up as fatalities. The logistical situation seems to have been a nightmare for Ukraine in a lot of ways. Or at least that is my impression.
Does that outweigh the risk of friendly fire? With camo you can't tell who it is but you can still tell there's someone there. With traditional uniforms who's who is pretty distinctive. Drones do a very good job of spotting soldiers with camo, so I don't know if there would be much benefit. Even if they train an ai to fire at the colours, the soldiers could place a scarecrow to make the ai out itself.
I think it's less "Camo is useless" and more "the overall shape of soldiers is too similar now". Back before the current era of "plate carriers" and #OperatorAsFuck larpware "helmets", troops from different nations didn't just use different camouflage, but their overall shape was different. The helmets, rucksacks, load bearing equipment, and stuff like that made even similarly looking troops stand out. The shape of an American GI and his equipment was different from a German Schütze, even without weapons.
Yes, and no. The Ukraine was caught by surprise by the invasion (as was the US). The problem isn't that the AFU was incapable of adapting, its that they have several obstacles in their way, namely, the US/NATO advisors that were unfamiliar with Ukraine (and more importantly, Russia); the fact that the Ukraine was primed to go on the offensive and suddenly had to pivot to a defensive footing, and lastly, but most important, the Ukrainian compulsion to steal and rob everything not bolted down (and even then they had enterprising hohols that were ready with power tools), just in case Ukraine became Russia again.
Russia was never committed to actually capturing Kiev/Ukraine by force. Its very apparent now that they thought Ukraine would collapse as soon as they saw the tanks and helos streaming across the border. They did not anticipate Ukraine actually trying to fight them back.
The West has been training and arming Ukraine for the past ten years. Russia and Kiev had an agreement for a cessation of hostilities in March 2022 that Boris Johnson convinced Zelensky to renege on. So Russia's Plan B was put in motion: methodically destroy Ukraine's military. Slower, but better and more permanent results. As far as the price, that's subjective, and depends on whose word you take.
No.
That was one theory posited by pro-Russia twitter.
The question here should be:
Well, that's what happened, initially. Or did you not see Kiev surrounded by Russian armor?
Preferable to a hostile NATO base, yes.
That's absolutely false, and the AFU has never said the like; hohol CISPO on the other hand, posts that and other "ruZZians r dum" all over the internet.Seems you fell for it.
Its painfully obvious it was all a bluff, it wasnt cover for actions elsewhere.
Ive seen enough videos of Russians being absolutely annihilated due to sheer retardation to know they have very serious issues with battlefield tactics. They simply throw men and firepower at a objective until they take it.
This is quite the bombastic statement. It makes me wonder are you even in the right thread? There is a pro-Ukraine thread if that is where your sympathies lie.
Why are you pretending the Istanbul Agreement never happened?
Bruh. You can look in this, and the previous threads to see holhols being annihilated every day. Even the hohols estimate the average daily losses of the AFU are 800-850 daily. That's why they're mobilizing women and cripples. Its over.
lol you have to go back to
Most modern uniforms make an attempt at mitigating your visiblity on thermals. Most thermal optics arent really temperature based, they estimate your termperature based on what part of the infrared band you are radiating on the most, and then compare the intensity of the radiation to what would be expected of from a blackbody. Most inert crap on the ground is a black body, so it tends to highlight artificial things relatively well in most conditions without taking undue notice of hot rocks in the sun and so on (this is my understanding from my own reading). You can make your soldiers more blackbody-like intentionally.
I was kindof baffled by how this seems to end with the tank being disabled. It really looks like the M2s are engaging with HEI belts which don't really penetrate steel armor at all. The guys in the tank honestly may have wound up abandoning a mostly undamaged vehicle.
