Elaine April Gertler-Miller / Elaine Georgie Gertler-Miller / Elaine Miller / Trollcow / "Pissminge" / Z3R6 / Echo - Pisswhore, liar, future fed, faildoxxer, swatter, Imageboard apostate, sektur bicycle, sock enthusiast, linked her nudes to a 14 year old, cut "Josh Moon" into her thighs, genuine cautionary tale about wanting Internet fame, Torswats orbiter, drug addict

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October 2023:
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>[764] tortured my catfishes, who were mostly pedophiles and I am forever grateful for that.

January 2024:
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>hate the game, not the player.
>Hating those committing atrocities in a system designed to cause just that would be silly

Seems like her prior reasoning for her white-knighting of the pedophile ring 764 (that being that 764 "tortured [her] catfishes, who were mostly pedophiles") has fallen apart, given that she's still hanging out with the catfish who convinced her to cut herself and is now conjuring up new dumb-as-fuck moral positions to justify doing so. So why exactly is she hanging out with a group that extorts minors into self-harming, killing animals, and producing CSAM, now that the reason she gave previously is shown to be bullshit?

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[Pitbull Victim]

October 2023:
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>[764] tortured my catfishes, who were mostly pedophiles and I am forever grateful for that.

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>hate the game, not the player.
>Hating those committing atrocities in a system designed to cause just that would be silly

Seems like her prior reasoning for her white-knighting of the pedophile ring 764 (that being that 764 "tortured [her] catfishes, who were mostly pedophiles") has fallen apart, given that she's still hanging out with the catfish who convinced her to cut herself and is now conjuring up new dumb-as-fuck moral positions to justify doing so. So why exactly is she hanging out with a group that extorts minors into self-harming, killing animals, and producing CSAM, now that the reason she gave previously is shown to be bullshit?
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Elaine is cluelessly white-knighting a group run by a teenager so fucking repulsive that he was functionally given a life sentence in prison:


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[ye's Official KF Burner]

Elaine loves her nonces, that's for sure.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

would i be correct in saying that elaine is almost 100 percent being used by any of the people or groups she associates with and she just pretends thats not the case and that shes the one using them to achieve her goals actually. because thats what it feels like most of the times i read this thread.

 

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would i be correct in saying that elaine is almost 100 percent being used by any of the people or groups she associates with and she just pretends thats not the case and that shes the one using them to achieve her goals actually. because thats what it feels like most of the times i read this thread.

My theory is that she's just kept around by a handful of people / groups as a pet lolcow. These people likely find it funny when Elaine goes full egotistical fake hacker, so they a) feed into her delusions by occasionally telling her about what they're doing so that she feels included, and/or b) swatting people on her behalf. Elaine partially admits the latter is the case in this voice recording she made a couple weeks ago @ 4:12:

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Like, as someone who has a substantial amount of people watching me at all times (uh, which I used to think was cool, now maybe not), um... I don't- I don't like when people decide to go on a whim and do something fucking insane and then take, like, y'know, take credit for it under my name, right? Like, there have been people who have done shit to Bryan Dunn, and they're like, "We swatted Bryan! Are you happy because we heard he snaked you," and I'm like, bro, this is not your fight! Like, this is not your fucking fight! What the fuck are you doing here? Last time I checked, my issue was with Bryan, not with, like, a bunch of spergs who decide to just play God on the Internet. Like, I just need to know what possesses people to just go out on a whim and just take a situation [into] their own, like, hands. Like, this isn't your fucking issue, this isn't your battle! I know you watch my fucking... videos and you, like, pay attention to everything I do, but I did not ask you to be, like, my Greek chorus? I don- like, I don't like that! Like, no one who has, like, a channel, or any content creator is gonna want you to go out for them and do shit for them, because we're not- we're not asking for a personal army. I don't need a personal army, I don't need people to go and attack people for me - I can do it very fucking well myself. Have I ever required anyone to help me with anything?

>the people who swatted @Bryan Dunn did it in an attempt to appease Elaine
>Elaine says she's aware of who these people are



She's speaking in vagueries. Who could she be talking about? Plate Gang? I find that unlikely, given she explicitly refers to Plate by name later in the same recording (without connecting them back to the swatters she was just talking about) @ 6:03:

Like, there was this- all this stuff where people were trying to say it was Plate Gang that hacked, um, Chud Buds, which I thought was fucking insane. I was like, I don't know why anyone thinks these people are competent. Tell me when Plate Gang actually have ever successfully hacked anything. Like, I will wait.

So in one part, she's talking about how incompetent Plate is, and then in another part, she's telling an unnamed "bunch of spergs" who she knows "watch [her] videos and... pay attention to everything [she does]" to stop swatting people on her behalf, citing a time they claimed to have swatted Bryan Dunn as an example of this happening.



I think we all know who she was referring to.

(Elaine says she knows Torswats)
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(Meticore, collaborator of Torswats, says in leaked chatlogs that he talks with Elaine)
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(Official Torswats Telegram channel shares one of Elaine's videos)
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(Elaine says she uses Cowbin, a site owned by Torswats and/or his collaborators)
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(Elaine had an account on Sneed Social, the site owned by Torswats collaborator Meticore)
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(Bryan Dunn is falsely accused of orchestrating Torswats' swattings by (((someone))) intimately familiar with the swattings)
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You always hear people saying Bryan is in way too many Discord servers for his own good, and to an extent I would agree with them - however, many of these same people will turn around and simp for Elaine without realizing she has the exact same problem as Bryan but worse. Elaine on her own is already too terminally online for her own good, but her effective mental retardation and her widely known history of being catfished into self-harming on camera have left her wide open to being serially exploited by even more sadists who lure her into even more Discord servers in order to manipulate and take advantage of her (to varying degrees of severity), as shown by her early knowledge and current, repeated, full-throated defense of 764, one of the most heinous child exploitation / animal abuse rings to ever exist.

Null was 100% correct to say Elaine was and is a danger to herself and others.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

Some interesting infographics:


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I'm bringing this up because the manipulation of bad actors goes both ways. I think she believes she's in control and then acts irrationally when she feels like her perceived control is slipping when in reality people are taking advantage of how she works. On the other hand, I think she might be aware but prefers to live with what her delusions tell her is going on and doesn't care about the consequences.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

the people who swatted @Bryan Dunn did it in an attempt to appease Elaine
>Elaine says she's aware of who these people are

I can give some personal experience on this just this one time.

She’s referring to Zoom and DrRockzo of the PlateGang. She allegedly was in the VCs with Godwinson when this took place just before my final Pol Show of Zoom swatting me for the millionth time.

Ill be honest here, Elaine says and does things without any kind of idea of the repercussions she causes others when she just blurts out things that just arent true or she “miswords” things for what I think is just online shanagians to her im not 100% sure. This isnt a shot at her but just my experiences talking to her. We havent bad many bad conversations but heavy disagreements on differing opinions. Tbh she was alright to me for the most part til the snakening of the Writers Room and even then she is who she is and I cannot physically stop her actions and its not my job to do so. I do wish she would calm it down though abit. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes or faults. Hers and I share that our faults or mistakes are permanently recorded without the option to fix them or make good on them and I think for her, shes embraced the Villian Role for whatever means she takes which isnt good but I understand why.

And No I do not justify her actions im just giving my personal experience of knowing elaine for a few years privately.


My main issue lies in her change of stance on this website and Josh itself. On one end she will argue about her photos here to others and how this site needs to go then the next day say josh is based and kf is cool. It is uh. well its Elaine I guess. Overall I have never read her thread and from I have seen I have not taken whats posted here as a 100% truth as I am all too aware of how KF operates on the basis that Storytelling is better than the truth. Just like the Sektur. Always more bullshit than factual information.

para-social relationships are a serious issue with no answer. Thats my takeaway of Elaine

 

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My main issue lies in her change of stance on this website and Josh itself. On one end she will argue about her photos here to others and how this site needs to go then the next day say josh is based and kf is cool. It is uh. well its Elaine I guess.

Does it bother you at all that known swatters who have previously attempted to frame you for their attacks have claimed in leaked DMs that they talk with Elaine?

 

[Scout Trooper]

para-social relationships are a serious issue with no answer. Thats my takeaway of Elaine

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

It's interesting to get a glimpse into your social circle and some of the thought processes that you probably share.

When I look at this sentence, I understand the sentiment but my instant reaction is yes, there is an answer.

Elaine's behavior, as @Sketchy Minecraft Mod points out, is propelled by a very primitive need for attachment and attention at a level that no person or group is capable of providing to her satisfaction. This results in her being increasingly hostile to them or otherwise sabotaging the relationship until they finally make a move to end it.

The termination of the relationship results in Elaine feeling a very profound level of insecurity as her sense of self is shaken. She responds, again in a primitive fashion, with rage and aggression toward those people.

She will do anything to try to hurt them. She'll SWAT people. She'll contact service providers and people's employers. She'll harass unrelated, innocent people. She will say anything, regardless of how ridiculous or untruthful. She will collaborate with people who were, the day before, her worst enemies or people she believed to be evil.

This cycle then repeats with the new group.

Because Elaine feels few if any consequences from this behavior, it will continue into perpetuity.

The "treatment" for Borderline Personality Disorder has a low success rate because it requires intense commitment by the person being treated and the process doesn't make them feel good. It feels a lot better to be out in society trying to get attention.

Elaine may have been a victim at some early point in her life (statistically she would have been in order to develop the BPD) but now she is a monster.

The "answer," Bryan, to Elaine's "para social" relationship issue is psychiatric treatment and probably incarceration.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

Does it bother you at all that known swatters who have previously attempted to frame you for their attacks have claimed in leaked DMs that they talk with Elaine?

Extremely but these people are seemingly protected by the known systems in place(or sheer incompetence) when you follow what the Law asks you to do. What makes is worse is the heavy amount of support that this gains by people online. Now you are probably thinking das nawt trooo but my crimes online are very much refusing to stop talking shit online or having my Freedom of Speech to share an opinion actually weaponized and discredited with falsified information, disinformation campaigns and a tual criminal operations.

I am in a rate unique position to sit back and observe it all to me and around me. So is Elaine for that matter. She chooses to embrace what people claim of her and commit to the Villian and I am so use to now an actual Decade of it and completely lost my self-representation or agency that I just dont care anymore and expect it. I mean, they contact my job my family my extended family anything they can find. Fabricate and harass anything they can. The list goes on.

I am a Victim of Consequences of Wrong Speech and speaking truth to fiction and noone cares or helps me in this injustice and thats just the way the world is. If I could have justice many people would be arrested or buried by my hands but that’s not realistic. The Persona(character) I portray in my streams or my public eceleb social media posts are a reflection of what “the sektur” wants to see and its just not reality.

So do I care? Absolutely. Can I stop it? Impossible without jail time and ethically bankruptcy of my personal beliefs as well as throwing what I have in my real life away(family, career, friends, etc).

Elaine, just like Dark Ninja, choose to war with there perceived enemies with no Geneva Convention Rules. Thats all it is.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

Ill be honest here, Elaine says and does things without any kind of idea of the repercussions

No shit. That's why you don't hang around Elaine.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

all @Bryan Dunn had to do was not get embroiled in discord gay ops. tall order. the fact he didnt stop after the gym stream is just proof of how retarded he is.

 

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Extremely but these people are seemingly protected by the known systems in place(or sheer incompetence) when you follow what the Law asks you to do. What makes is worse is the heavy amount of support that this gains by people online. Now you are probably thinking das nawt trooo but my crimes online are very much refusing to stop talking shit online or having my Freedom of Speech to share an opinion actually weaponized and discredited with falsified information, disinformation campaigns and a tual criminal operations.

I am in a rate unique position to sit back and observe it all to me and around me. So is Elaine for that matter. She chooses to embrace what people claim of her and commit to the Villian and I am so use to now an actual Decade of it and completely lost my self-representation or agency that I just dont care anymore and expect it. I mean, they contact my job my family my extended family anything they can find. Fabricate and harass anything they can. The list goes on.

I am a Victim of Consequences of Wrong Speech and speaking truth to fiction and noone cares or helps me in this injustice and thats just the way the world is. If I could have justice many people would be arrested or buried by my hands but that’s not realistic. The Persona(character) I portray in my streams or my public eceleb social media posts are a reflection of what “the sektur” wants to see and its just not reality.

So do I care? Absolutely. Can I stop it? Impossible without jail time and ethically bankruptcy of my personal beliefs as well as throwing what I have in my real life away(family, career, friends, etc).

Elaine, just like Dark Ninja, choose to war with there perceived enemies with no Geneva Convention Rules. Thats all it is.

No, you're the victim of your own need to replace reality with Discord and tranny outlines. You're not ridiculed for "Wrong Speech", you're ridiculed for being a gossipy bisexual man who cannot keep his mouth shut.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

@Bryan Dunn and Elaine share one very important thing in common. All their problems would be solved if they stepped away and didn't indulge these people that they know are nutso. But if they don't, that's fine I guess. More content for us.

You can't put your hand on the burning hot stove and cry that it hurts, but then you don't try to move away or change the situation. At that point you're willingly hurting yourself.

 

[Axiom.]

Elaine is too immature to know any of this, she's just a pet retard and whatever dirt she has will be immediately met with dirt on her. She's not part of Torswats, she's not part of anything. She's just an attention whore and I will gladly eat shit for my stance because nobody believes she's smart enough to do any of this if she gloats about it on X. All criminal masterminds hide beneath a Veil and have proxies to take the blame for it. She's just a proxy for actual criminals and will most likely get coerced to killing herself if she gives out enough information on one.

 

[WEEKEND]

She's a stupid psycho bitch who self-medicates with drugs and Discord/attention. There's nothing deep or interesting about what she does or why she does any of it. She herself doesn't know.

The same is true for all the retards that flock to her. No of them are criminal masterminds, they're just losers who get away with it because the no one with any power gives a fuck about bottom feeders.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

all @Bryan Dunn had to do was not get embroiled in discord gay ops. tall order. the fact he didnt stop after the gym stream is just proof of how retarded he is.

@Bryan Dunn and Elaine share one very important thing in common. All their problems would be solved if they stepped away

This is stupid dismissal behavior to justify stalking and parasocial behaviors that are absolutely degenerate. I stopped making content for nearly 4 years at one point and it never stopped. People still decided they needed to be apart of my life without permission or request. Its mental illness from the viewer to justify needing to live in someone elses skin and create your own ideas about who someone is. People are property in this mindset and dehumanizes the entire point of content vs consumer in an anti-human manner. Chris Chan would have never been as insane as he is today if people with your mentality didnt directly need to be apart of his and his families lives just to follow them forever. Its creepy degenerate and faggot behavior.

The problem resides in people like you and your belief that you should be allowed to do things to others without any repercussions or criticism and if someone complains they are “cancelled “to various degrees whether it be embarrassing moments in time, which you all commit yourself regularly but away from public eyes. By this sites Owners own account you guys are trannys and furries by a large margin the ultimate degenerates in society, josh himself claims this on his own show when discussing his dwindling website.

TLDR
Parasocial relationships of content creators and viewers has crossed a boundary where you people believe you are apart of that creators real life, as if you are family or there lover or child and you believe you own this persons life like property and therefore commit to talking as if you can speak on behalf of others you consume. That is a problem that should be talked about in bigger groups but this isnt the place for it here. This site is too low IQ to have that real discussion.

Elaine does bad shit because the people here and around here over the years have pushed her into being the Villain and this is how she deals with the Trauma. Is it right? Absolutely not. she should stop this shit, delete her twitter and realize you guys will never go away or stop pressing that big button to try to get her to dance for you. She believes in my opinion, that shes fighting against her enemies in a way that you guys treat her. Fire with fire.

Accept it or dont. Look in a mirror and self-reflect or fuck off and stop being apart of the problem in this persons life. Hiding behind anon accounts to be the equivalent of a glowie to zcelebs online and thinking you get to criticize the actions of people when your only real issue is one time at some random moment Elaine called you a faggot or insulted you somehow because you tweeted something mean at her first is pure beta womanly behavior. Say it with your chest pussies and turn on the camera or shut the fuck up at this point.

Wild West days are over and Chris Chan experiment showed that the Kiwifarms experience is only bad. Nothing good.

Here is Daddy Gym making the same points I am making here you guys all like him. If you have above a 81 sub african IQ this might make sense to you idk.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

when the tl;dr is tl;dr

 

[Just A Butt]

Elaine does bad shit because the people here and around here over the years have pushed her into being the Villain

lol what?

 

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She also saw my reply to Epik's actionable defamation against Josh and got TRIGGERED
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Still no proof I've lied about a single thing in this thread btw