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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 331 31.9%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 523 50.5%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 182 17.6%

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Freeloaders only season 2 ranking list. Nifty worked so well as house punching bag I had to put her in A.
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The problem with Tay and her arc is that she's too meta. The whole time she was cutting her hair she was saying how funny it was and soyjakking. You can't make her have an arc because she'll laugh off anything production throws at her or accept that it's just content and go through it.
They could have absolutely got an arc out of Tay but production either wasn't smart or proactive enough to take advantage of their opportunities. Imagine an arc where Nifty and Tay are forced to be partners for competitions. Tay must overcome her dyke hate long enough to avoid elimination and who knows how long Nifty will be staying? At the same time imagine Tay is also responsible for ensuring Nifty's stay is as comfortable as possible and Tay needs to make sure that anyone who fucks with Nifty can expect retaliation. Maybe Tay comes to realize her rabid dyke hate is misplaced in Nifty and she lightens up on her. Didn't happen. Instead the wiggers pissed themselves laughing while keeping Nifty awake with 4x speed Minecraft tutorials until Jimmy sent her ass home with the soap attack

Imagine if they held anger management classes with Tay, where Hassle and the rest of the tank are allowed to fuck with her in a controlled environment like group and she must temper her responses or risk losing a challenge or even face elimination. Maybe Tay realizes that her aggressive responses to conflict end up hurting her in the end and she learns how to control her temper. Nah. Just sit back and everyone will watch Frank and Tay go nuclear on each other for days. Now everyone in the tank knows she's the alpha bitch because any attack of theirs will be met with 40x the force. They're afraid of her
 
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While Tay and TJ are arguing about whether or not Shinji is the strongest competitor, Shinji sits at the bar in bewilderment as he discovers the cigarettes that Fatty hid in the fridge.

Tay comes down, and Shinji hands her one.

I think the atmosphere at the bar in the middle of the night with only one or two people is the best part of this show.
 
TTS keeps interjecting in tay trying to groom the tard. Based on IQ alone tay and shinji should obviously take it from teej the tard. He can't count anyway, admits he has no idea how much he has, so he wouldn't miss it even.
Shinji will quit the show over it (possibly?).

Just make the tard useful and exploit him for whatever little usefulness he might be able to provide.

If TJ really turns on tay then that just emboldens her against him. Tay already, obviously, can see that shinji is more of a threat in terms of audience approval and intelligence.

This actually is the most interesting thing that production has put into the tank in a fucking long while. It seemed like they didn't care about money, so they tossed this in to really push it.

Production I think likes tay more and if sam has someone picked out to win, rules be damned, it will be tay. So it's her game to lose.

Very good point about tay never going to the basement. Lubecooch the perverted faggot is just along for the ride since no one sees him as a threat and the fucking stupid arc bullshit that honestly no one tunes in for. (They've been harassing a naked fat man for a week).

Tay not talking to shinji right now made her seem really dumb but she just walked over
 
They could have absolutely got an arc out of Tay but production either wasn't smart or proactive enough to take advantage of their opportunities. Imagine an arc where Nifty and Tay are forced to be partners for competitions. Tay must overcome her dyke hate long enough to avoid elimination and who knows how long Nifty will be staying? At the same time imagine Tay is also responsible for ensuring Nifty's stay is as comfortable as possible and Tay needs to make sure that anyone who fucks with Nifty can expect retaliation from Tay. Maybe Tay comes to realize her rabid dyke hate is misplaced in Nifty and she lightens up on her. Didn't happen. Instead the wiggers pissed themselves laughing while keeping Nifty awake with 4x speed Minecraft tutorials until Jimmy sent her ass home with the soap attack

Imagine if they held anger management classes with Tay, where Hassle and the rest of the tank are allowed to fuck with her in a controlled environment like group and she must temper her responses or risk losing a challenge or even face elimination. Maybe Tay realizes that her aggressive responses to conflict end up hurting her in the end and she learns how to control her temper. Nah. Just sit back and everyone will watch Frank and Tay go nuclear on each other for days. Now everyone in the tank knows she's the alpha bitch because any attack of theirs will be met with 40x the force. They're afraid of her
Tay didn't need an arc, she was the one and only fish that wasn't coddled this season and they threw everything they had at her. Her growth is organic. The only thing I see that she still has problems with is misplaced authority over her. She soyjacked and laughed over the clippers in the attic instead of just telling telling them to fuck off and that she wouldn't cut her hair. There was literally no upside to getting humiliated like this, even Trish said no and tried bargaining.
 
So i guess everyone in the tank forgot Shinji straight up said he was going to start streaming after the show ends? That would be my rationalization to get Shinji to take the hit, Tay should have TJ and Shinji in a meeting and bring that up, and use that to force TJ to accept that Shinji wouldn't even miss the 4k. Irregardless i wouldn't trust the crew over such a simple challenge at this point.
and likely one with a decent future if she continues on this confident course she has been charting.
people here don't seem to realize how much just standing up for herself and taking initiative is for some women. Especially someone like Tay who because of past bad relationships is clearly not big into confrontation or "taking the lead"; That's a big reason why she's a "pick-me" its about following the pack and being liked. Her going from someone that talks shit behind people's back and just cowers to the biggest nut in the room to actively causing Chris to sperg out without knowing or caring about the consequences is a huge step. Look how she refused to cut her hair weeks ago and is now proudly going through with it with a semi-good rationalization.

She went from a scared girl who isolated super hard over a pair of missing panties to openly fucking with a naked pervert triple her size who could have cracked her skull open and fucked the wound. Her arc is arguably the most cinematic, the important haircut is a trope for women in itself, and it really did signify that she's in it to win it.

She's been kicking ass and taking names and dominating which isn't something you would have expected a month ago when she was isolating herself in her bedroom crying over misplaced panties, people were expecting her to vanish before even Meg.
They're afraid of her
she's 98 pounds and they're afraid of her, isn't that sort of an arc? People seem to forget Tay's best friend the last month or so has been the gay black man. Which is pretty crazy considering the shit she was talking about him at the start, most of the people following the show were almost ready to riot over them letting the other black dude sleep next to her, fearing for her life. according to a leak, Sam read Jet the riot act after that and the show very quickly slipped away from Jet's control.

Tay did have an arc, and she didn't need production to force it on her like TJ either: The Pick-me became the Follow Me, from repeating whatever and doing anything to be liked (even licking shoes) to throwing hands, destroying all her items and hair to make herself untouchable. For Fucks Sake its like something out of a movie. There's two dudes with her and neither can plan worth shit and just follow what she does, Trish at least had some fight in her but overall its been Tay's show. Tay has contributed the most and has went through the most shit on the tank. the other two need their hand held the entire show, giving them the win means that any fish from here on out knows to just stay in the background and wait for the producers to force themselves on you and then go back to being in the background
instead of just telling telling them to fuck off and that she wouldn't cut her hair.
Then trish does it and boom! Tay's gone. Trish literally already cut most of her hair already. Tay checkmated Trish and the Jap into either following the trend or fucking off.
 
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TJ's gooncave speech is basically this:

He says that the more obvious choice is to team up against Shinji, because he's the stronger competitor, but Tay is a terrible person for basically all the reasons that have been listed in this thread, and he'd rather lose to Shinji than give Tay any ground. He wants to be a good person, and Tay wants to do whatever benefits her in the moment.

He's also upset with her for bullying Chris, for reasons that can be summed up as "bullying retards isn't cool or funny."

He's spent the whole show trying to be friends with Tay, and she backstabs him every chance she gets. He says he's going to side with Shinji.

Meanwhile, Shinji was having a hard time talking to the camera, so TTS told him to just speak in Japanese and we could translate it later. Which is nice, because he seems much more talkative. If he's just talking about jerking it as a middleschooler or whatever that's fine, but if he's talking about the current situation it kind of sucks because by the time someone translates it, it may not be relevant.
 
Yesterday JC, Cole, and Brian did an Instagram live to discuss the current state of fishtank and how they're doing after the show.
Posted on archive.org because of the site upload size limit : link

- JC doesn't want to talk to Jimmy and Cole hasn't talked to him yet
- Both of them are taking a neutral stance on the Summer situation
- Cole said the show is pretty much over / stagnant for him when it turns into Cole vs everyone else
- Cole said the S1 has no problem with contestants and it's a lot slower compared to S2 (context : JC doesn't watch S1)
- JC believes she is the most mentally sane of any S2 contestants
- Cole was pissed when the day 5 reveal happen because he put a lot of effort to hide it
- Cole hopes Tayleigh doesn't win because of the panties thing (LMAO)
- Summer sent Cole messages all the time
- JC misses sensei Scott Karate lesson
- Brian joins the stream
- Brian develops some kind of PTSD after the show (LOL)
- Both Brian and Cole don't think the productions will let Shinji win and they think Tayleigh will win the show
- Three of them are rooting for Shinji to win
- Brian said Cole left a big impact on the show even after he left
- Brian thinks Summer needs to get help and get off Twitter
- Brian has a 105 IQ
- Cole has 113 - 117 IQ (he's not sure of the exact number)
- Brian has to explain the breakfast question to JC
- JC never dated someone, Brian then gives JC a dating advice
- Brian and JC think the Taylor x TJ thing is real, but Cole doesn't believe that
- Trish's real ex is pissed with Brian and has been looking for him
- Cole mentioned the Mondo vs Javascript, Brian is on the Mondo side for "legal reasons", Cole is on Javascript side, JC has no idea what they're talking about
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- Cole said people on the Kiwifarms love him (sarcasm), JC asked what it is and Brian told her it's better for her not to know about us
 
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Cole said people on the Kiwifarms love him (sarcasm)
If he did say that sarcastically, I don't really understand why. A lot of people were saying he was their favorite and remember the detective Cole arc fondly. The only reason people here wouldn't like him is for giving up like a pussy.
Cole said the show is pretty much over / stagnant for him when it turns into Cole vs everyone else
This is cope. First of all he put himself in the position where everyone was against him, talking "lone wolf" shit. He just gave up.
 
If he did say that sarcastically, I don't really understand why. A lot of people were saying he was their favorite and remember the detective Cole arc fondly. The only reason people here wouldn't like him is for giving up like a pussy.
Because he hates us for doxing him and he believes we're trying to make the whole situation between him and the show about us because some retard from 4chan convinced him that we think Cole getting kicked off the show is because we like him and Jet doesn't like us. I wouldn't pay any attention to what retards that grew up on 4chan like Brian and Cole have to say about us tbh. Most of them don't form their opinion on us based on their own experience.

Unironically, I believe Jimmy has a positive opinion of our site because he referenced multiple events that paint the forum in a good light while he's on the show (Bella, Keffals, Kero)
 
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I feel pretty indifferent about Cole, I think he was kind of a baby for quitting no matter how unfair you want to view how production was acting towards him by making all the fish turn against him. I mean it's not like he had been dealing with mistreatment for weeks or something, and he had a ton of support from TTS and staff too. Besides people saying he shouldn't have given up so easily, I haven't seen anyone be negative about Cole.

As for the doxing thing, he basically gave everyone information talking about his family and their very niche business, and it's partially his fault for not doing a social media purge and telling his family to private their accounts before going on the show. It makes even less sense seeing as he watched S1 and knew the fans found out everyone's identities, and If he's familiar with 4chan then it makes even less sense for him to get butthurt about it or expect himself to not eventually be found out. Zoomers really suck at opsec.
 
People are more motivated when there is actually a clear fucking goal, which is something fishtank constantly lacks
Jet needs to realize that as "funny" as some bits can be, you have to make sacrifices and practice some self-control for the sake of making the show work.
They've changed the price of Greg's fist toy. It was $100 to give him $100, now you have to pay $600 to give him $100.
heheh...fist toy.

Not really. Chris who hated Letty's guts at that point was for whatever retarded reason allowed to judge dozens of competitions during the cell 2 challenge and gave Josie a huge advantage.
Chris also had a pretty obvious disdain for Letty at the time too, when instructed to fuck with everyone during particular challenges he'd exclusively fuck with Letty then forget to fuck with all the other fish. ie. The "don't stop moving" marathon challenge.

Also to respond to your post about eliminations having an impact. I would have thought that maybe you could do some sort of "loser's initiation" to make eliminations feel like they have some weight in this case. Imagine if in this season when you lost, you got indicted to the "cult" that Sam originally planned and you were required to mark yourself by shaving your head? Also, the ideal would be for no fish to be eliminated on the grounds of being too out of control for whatever reason.


disordered thinking serves to reach a conclusiom that the sufferer has already determined.
I think what’s terrifying is that she might actually believe this happened to her
Yeah, if you refer back to some earlier posts you can see that she already subconsciously thinks that a rape is what happened but she was trying to question that conclusion her mind came to. However, the human mind, whether stable or not, tends to clutch and hold onto the first conclusion that is reached.

Maybe Tay realizes that her aggressive responses to conflict end up hurting her in the end and she learns how to control her temper.
Except she's already aware of this. Her aggressive responses aren't voluntary and are a result of flashing back due to high-stress situations. Why do you think she was ashamed of the Taymaker? She wanted to stand up for herself but she didn't want to cross physical boundaries like that and she did so against her own wishes.
Tay didn't need an arc, she was the one and only fish that wasn't coddled this season and they threw everything they had at her. Her growth is organic. The only thing I see that she still has problems with is misplaced authority over her. She soyjacked and laughed over the clippers in the attic instead of just telling telling them to fuck off and that she wouldn't cut her hair. There was literally no upside to getting humiliated like this, even Trish said no and tried bargaining.
She went from a scared girl who isolated super hard over a pair of missing panties to openly fucking with a naked pervert triple her size who could have cracked her skull open and fucked the wound. Her arc is arguably the most cinematic, the important haircut is a trope for women in itself, and it really did signify that she's in it to win it.

She's been kicking ass and taking names and dominating which isn't something you would have expected a month ago when she was isolating herself in her bedroom crying over misplaced panties, people were expecting her to vanish before even Meg.
TAY CRINGE
At this point I think Tay has earned her victory. I said she'd earned it after dumgay stopped stroking her dick and lo and behold, He is no longer around to be her pillar. I will continue to whine and complain though because goddamn she is just so cringe and UNFUNNY. Strong, but cringe.
 
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I don’t think Summer believes she was raped at all. She’s not schizo, she’s good at pretending to be crazier than she is. I feel like she’s blatantly lying to try to get attention or a reaction from Sam. She thinks if she keeps going with this eventually he’ll have to address it even if it’s legally but she’s probably wishful in hoping he’ll have some weird compassion in the form of “do you really think I raped you? I didn’t rape you. I would never do that.” She’s an attention whore. It seems like she had a big crush on Sam if you watched even 30 mins of the interview with that cringe vtuber, she freaked during the show and probably in the basement was freaking because he wouldn’t treat her like a child or showed no interest and wasn’t charmed by her. it’s a case of “I was raped” since her crush didn’t reciprocate her feelings or make her feel good about herself. She links up with batshit Channing and now boom, we have a rape story.

Whoever greenlit casting her is a fucking retard. I’ve said this a million times but asking your own batshit crazy audience to audition is a recipe for disaster. They’re lucky there was only one rape accusation this season, look at the shit Betty stirred and continues to stir despite being completely ignored and being there for all of two days. You’d think they learned their lesson about their attention whore fans and what they will do when they get the boot and cold shoulder.

Edit: she’s a BPD whore, but I don’t think for a moment is actually schizo enough to think she was actually raped.
 
In defense of Shinji wanting to quit:
Am I wrong in thinking that in Japanese society, it's considered more honorable to quit than to continue to play a game you're losing?
they got nuked because they wouldnt give up. some of them hid in the island jungles for years after the war ended and would not surrender until their commanding officer came to relieve them.
 
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