US Elon Musk calls for unmasking of Patriot Front: 'just follow them' - "Seems like they should be followed and unmasked," Musk said.

On Sunday, X owner Elon Musk called for members of the Patriot Front organization to be unmasked and questioned "Why doesn't the media or government care about their identities?" He asked.

The comment came in response to X user Wall Street Silver, who theorized, "The fact that the legacy media shows zero curiosity about unmasking these guys, tells us 100% that these are federal agents or paid stooges of one of the agencies."

"Seems like they should be followed and unmasked," Musk said.

On Saturday, a video showed 90-150 individuals marching in lockstep in New York City, escorted by police officers. It was shared across social media. The individuals all wore the same masks and caps.

The group marched through downtown Manhattan making their way down Wall Street. They were also seen near the 9/11 memorial and World Trade Center location, and held a demonstration outside the National Archives with a sign that read, "No Zionists in government."

Left-wing journalist Brian Krassenstien suggested that it would be breaking the law for the government or media to unmask them. "As much as I hate it, even hate has rights, unfortunately," he said.

"Just follow them," Musk responded.

US Rep. Thomas Massie joked in response to the video that they were "On their way to the pipe bomb workshop." He was referencing the recent report that pipe bombs placed outside the RNC and DNC on January 5, 2021, just a day before the J6 protest and riot at the Capitol Building, may have been a hoax that was potentially covered up by the FBI and the Secret Service.

The Marauder Magazine shared a video from BG On the Scene which showed the Patrot Front group getting into their cars and leaving the area on Saturday. They noted that the License plates on the vehicles were blank.

After a Patriot Front demonstration in May of 2023, police in Washington DC, blocked anyone from following the group into the subway station. This left users to speculate that the authorities have not wanted people to find out who the members are.

The Patriot Front organization is listed as a white supremacist group by the Anti-Defemation League, which "justifies its ideology of hate and intolerance under the guise of preserving the ethnic and cultural origins of its members’ European ancestors."

The organization spreads its message by posting videos online.

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[derpherp2]

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someone who joined a political organization is interested in politics. So over, these guys are definitely feds!

I see you weren't here when a certain mushroom glowie graced us with her toes.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

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someone who joined a political organization is interested in politics. So over, these guys are definitely feds!

That's a white supremacist? I think I bought a shawarma from him in Tel Aviv one time and he screwed me on the change.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

Scratchpad of thoughts.

Great majority of PF members are not feds. Cannot confirm or deny if leadership (Thomas and Patrick) are or aren't. I kinda doubt it. Also wouldn't be surprised if there is a fed or two inside it, its a large organization.
Even if so, so what? Unlike anyone in Con Inc, any organization approaching PF's size will be infiltrated. The key is to not do anything illegal. And by and large, that's what they do. Stick to legal activism and don't doxx yourself to other members.
The root of the Con Inc freakout is bad faith - cowardice and coping about their own inaction at best, and active fedjacketing to make pro-White people terrified of doing IRL activism at worst.
Jan 6th also did a number on these Con Inc types psychologically. There are FEDS FEDS FEDS around every corner. FEDS on the doorstep. FEDS waiting to ensnare you at the gas station. It is part coping - easier to believe there are FEDS crawling out of the ground to get you for voting for Trump than to reconcile with your own inaction - and it is part paranoia.

Personally I don't really agree with PF in an ideological or strategy sense, I do stuff with another group that does stuff a bit differently. But we know those guys and most good-faith groups have a hard "no-infighting" rule. Some people don't catch on to that though, and those people are pretty much blacklisted.

tl;dr if you aren't a moron, being an IRL pro-White activist is a lot safer than the cowardly keyboard warriors will tell you. Any group worth its while will tell you to stick to legal activism and don't doxx yourself, not to enemies and not even to the group itself. Some groups require these large gatherings like PF does (personally I disagree with the strategy of going to vacant shitlib downtowns and screaming through a megaphone at empty office buildings, but I see the propaganda potential), some don't.

In most places, you have relatively decentralized pro-White groups that you can join. Most have learned and integrated the rules for anonymity and legal action learned from past failures, and are quite good. The odds of you getting "caught" are quite low. It does happen but its pretty rare and almost always a result of someone being a) retarded b) young c)way overzealous and spergy. To me thats not an excuse for you to not get involved.

No I will not elaborate. DYOR.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I just don't understand what it is that PF actually does, other than hold marches, engage in some token activism for the cameras, and cover everything with stickers. It sounds like church ladies having a bake sale, not a revolutionary group with defined goals and tactics. Even soccer hooligans see more action than that.

Yes, PR is valuable, but you cannot run your entire organization on just bullshit and hype. Seems like typical western slacktivism with a dose of LARPing, just from the right side rather than the left.

 

[Caligura]

Hey guys, it's me. John Patriot Front. I'm the real leader of PF.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

it's about creating a boogeyman to justify the expansion of the Permanent Security State and further crackdowns on speech and erosion of our personal liberty.

I cannot respond to the whole thread so am only focusing on a few. This would make sense except I have not seen anything from Patriotic Front that has that bad of optics.

I know wignats tend to be highly autistic and/or terminally online and so they have a hard time understanding or conceptualizing this, but unironic White Nationalism is fucking poison to 99% of the country and your average person does not wish to be associated with anything resembling it.

Here we go with the insults. 99 percent of the country? Really... It is of note later down you mischaracterize what most you would consider to be white nationalists to believe

his articles about 6 years old now so I'm assuming that number has gone up because the anti-white rhetoric has increased dramatically
But the idea that people don't agree with Hardline right nationalism is incorrect

I agree and the vilification of whites, obvious double standards is starting to jar people out of their complacency.

hat doesn't necessarily mean they believe that non-whites are lesser or should have no say in this country, or that they buy into the weirdass Jew-sperging of the alt-right

This is either a straw man or demonstrates ignorance (willful or otherwise). Despite however much you and others insist to the contrary, socalled jew-sperging is not without merit. A friend I recently had a falling out with resisted me on my socalled anti-semitism. I challenged him to read Culture of Critique. He did, and stated I have no rebuttal. MacDonald is right, but a few jewish individuals in my life prevent me from incorporating the tenets of the book into my politics. The book on the Israeli Lobby by Mearsheimer and Walt. The first phrase in your sentence that is quoted also simplifies things unfairly.

Cuckervatism 101
If you try to collectivize on ethnicity or race, if you try to get the same representation as Jews have with AIPAC and blacks with their negro orgs, YOU ARE A FUCKING NAZI, and you NEED TO STOP, cause the "OMG security state hellllllp" will use you to crack down on Amerimutt liberties!!!
Which liberties?
To be a faggot of course.

Never conversativsm, Conservatism has been utterly and totally ineffectual, and in fact has facilitated liberalism by acting as a break pad. It compliments liberalism the way a breaking and signal system compliments high speed trains. Hard-line, right-wing radicalism is the only way. THE ONLY WAY.

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

tl;dr if you aren't a moron, being an IRL pro-White activist is a lot safer than the cowardly keyboard warriors will tell you.

If I was in a group of people with an open door to letting lunatics in, having some agents in constant presence isn't the worst thing to happen.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

The reason why white nationalist movements in America don't get beyond the fringe stage is because the country itself is so racially ambiguous that even the most white-passing Americans have a cousin Jamal or an uncle Sanchez. That's why the core concept isn't very palatable to regular Americans, most of them don't have a single ethnic origin.

 

[namvata]

Never conversativsm, Conservatism has been utterly and totally ineffectual, and in fact has facilitated liberalism by acting as a break pad. It compliments liberalism the way a breaking and signal system compliments high speed trains. Hard-line, right-wing radicalism is the only way. THE ONLY WAY.

precisely, the sooner cuckservatism dies the better, and as someone stated in a previous post I think there is such a concerted effort by con inc to fedjacket these guys because they know their delayed liberalism is on it's way out and more radical ideas are taking hold with right wing youth, which they will do anything to stop. I think they're also just insecure that these guys do more irl activism and charity work for white working class communities in a year than organizations like TPUSA or grifters like Miles Ching Chong have ever done in their entire history

Basically cuckservatives don't want kids going any farther to the right than Dennis Prager because they're gatekeepers. They don't want people organizing or taking action irl, they want everyone to stay inside and be fat lazy retards because if they weren't then nobody would watch their rumble streams or give them money.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Now imagine the uproar if Elon Musk suggested the same idea toward antifa members and sympatizers.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

I just don't understand what it is that PF actually does, other than hold marches, engage in some token activism for the cameras, and cover everything with stickers. It sounds like church ladies having a bake sale, not a revolutionary group with defined goals and tactics. Even soccer hooligans see more action than that.

Yes, PR is valuable, but you cannot run your entire organization on just bullshit and hype. Seems like typical western slacktivism with a dose of LARPing, just from the right side rather than the left.

Correct. And for the moment, your attitude is exactly why you wouldn't be let in. No offense, but you would be marked as basically a fedposter and denied. PF and adjacent groups fully understand that they are in no position to take power over anything. Yet. The goal right now is propaganda. That is powerful and it is succeeding in growing general pro-White sentiment. White people, in general, are extremely demoralized and cucked. The goal, again, just for now, is to change that. Undo decades, if not centuries, of hostile programming. That takes time, but I've been around for a bit, and its changing. Fast.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Correct. And for the moment, your attitude is exactly why you wouldn't be let in. No offense, but you would be marked as basically a fedposter and denied. PF and adjacent groups fully understand that they are in no position to take power over anything. Yet. The goal right now is propaganda. That is powerful and it is succeeding in growing general pro-White sentiment. White people, in general, are extremely demoralized and cucked. The goal, again, just for now, is to change that. Undo decades, if not centuries, of hostile programming. That takes time, but I've been around for a bit, and its changing. Fast.

I also wouldn't apply in the first place as it seems to be an ineffectual organization mostly focused on self-promotion and grifting rather than getting results. They project an image of keyboard warrior slacktivists and LARPers who are afraid of anything that could be possibly misconstrued as "illegal", so what kind of applicants do you think they get? People willing to engage in direct action or those who seek to bitch about their grievances anonymously without doing anything about it?

 

[LurkTrawl]

Hard-line, right-wing radicalism is the only way. THE ONLY WAY.

Yeah but next to nobody wants that, or even the thing that would allow that in the current system.

The reason why white nationalist movements in America don't get beyond the fringe stage is because the country itself is so racially ambiguous that even the most white-passing Americans have a cousin Jamal or an uncle Sanchez. That's why the core concept isn't very palatable to regular Americans, most of them don't have a single ethnic origin.

It's less this and more that you're going to have a friend/acquaintance/coworker who's [racial_group] in the U.S.

 

[namvata]

Now imagine the uproar if Elon Musk suggested the same idea toward antifa members and sympatizers.

the center right has more contempt for those further to the right than them than they have for gay race communists, it's sickening.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

It's less this and more that you're going to have a friend/acquaintance/coworker who's [racial_group] in the U.S.

That too. It just seems to be a self-defeating idea in America. That's why it never took off, even when faced with almost equally dumb ideas like socialism.

 

[namvata]

They project an image of ineffectual keyboard warrior slacktivists and LARPers who are afraid of anything that could be possibly misconstrued as "illegal", so what kind of applicants do you think they get?

Ok what work have you done? Did you work in any soup kitchens? Did you help any people fix their houses after a natural disaster? Hand out clean food and water to people in need?

Yeah but next to nobody wants that, or even the thing that would allow that in the current system.

I guess I'm nobody then, because your brand of color blind civic nationalist cuckservatism has completely failed all of white america for the past 6 decades when it sat idly by while the left has turned this country into a fucking hellscape. If "the right" will always be progressivism driving the speed limit then it needs to die out so an actually serious movement to counter our enemies can emerge.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

I also wouldn't apply in the first place as it seems to be an ineffectual organization mostly focused on self-promotion and grifting rather than getting results. They project an image of keyboard warrior slacktivists and LARPers who are afraid of anything that could be possibly misconstrued as "illegal", so what kind of applicants do you think they get? People willing to engage in direct action or those who seek to bitch about their grievances anonymously without doing anything about it?

Hilarious that you cope with "keyboard warriors" when they're out there on the streets and you're behind a keyboard. Again, you are basically just going "cmon, cmon, cmon, why are you guys not doing anything ILLEGAL" when the political and social landscape simply doesnt allow for that yet. These groups think the route to victory isnt terrorism, but is increasing white identity, and they are going out there and helping to build that.

The remnants of atomwaffen are still out there, why are you not getting involved with them?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Ok what work have you done? Did you work in any soup kitchens? Did you help any people fix their houses after a natural disaster? Hand out clean food and water to people in need?

If that's all that PF does, then why the masks and the costumes and the gay superhero shit? They're trying to seem badass when they really just do the same shit that local church ladies do, but without all the gay-ass pageantry.

Hilarious that you cope with "keyboard warriors" when they're out there on the streets and you're behind a keyboard. Again, you are basically just going "cmon, cmon, cmon, why are you guys not doing anything ILLEGAL" when the political and social landscape simply doesnt allow for that yet. These groups think the route to victory isnt terrorism, but is increasing white identity, and they are going out there and helping to build that.

The remnants of atomwaffen are still out there, why are you not getting involved with them?

I didn't say anything about terrorism, I just said that what PF does is no different than what the shriners and other various church groups do, it's just harmless activism with a bit of grifting on the side, so why the masks and the costumes and the LARP and pretending to be badass?

Besides, I'm already affiliated with another group. You may have heard of them, we're digging tunnels under NYC.

 

[LurkTrawl]

That too. It just seems to be a self-defeating idea in America. That's why it never took off, even when faced with almost equally dumb ideas like socialism.

Just saying that miscegenation isn't as far-reaching as you apparently think.

because your brand of color blind civic nationalist cuckservatism

I fit none of those descriptors. For the record, I considered myself a WN a decade or so ago.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

If that's all that PF does, then why the masks and the costumes and the gay superhero shit? They're trying to seem badass when they really just do the same shit that local church ladies do, but without all the gay-ass pageantry.

I don't see church ladies going out spreading White pride, facing screaming anti-Whites.