Mega Rad Gun Thread

Are gun companies really that out of touch that they'll retool a factory to churn out something nobody asked for? Most cowboy action and levergun enthusiasts want it for an aesthetic reasons, blued steel and walnut stock. Some more practical minded people like a stainless steel and laminate stock, but I've never seen anyone ask for a plastic stock on a levergun.
In the suppressor community leverguns are popular because of the manual action reducing/eliminating gas to the face and ejection port noise. And of course the need to make everything tacticool. After having the displeasure of shooting a skeleonized 45-70, I'd rather have a classically styled lever action with a threaded barrel.

I think companies figured out that a portion of the gun community is willing to shell out $1000+ for one in current year, so they're jumping on the bandwagon. Similar situation with all the 16" PCCs getting dumped on the market.
 
Does anyone believe the rise of pistol braces was *really* for some poor disabled veteran with a bad arm? You know cause a good solution for holding an ar/ak sbr is to make someone hold out several pounds of metal a foot and change out from a fully extended arm with just a little bit of velcro around their forearm?
 
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I guess Aero is coming out with a levergun next year, it looks even worse than Smith and Wessons.
Are gun companies really that out of touch that they'll retool a factory to churn out something nobody asked for? Most cowboy action and levergun enthusiasts want it for an aesthetic reasons, blued steel and walnut stock. Some more practical minded people like a stainless steel and laminate stock, but I've never seen anyone ask for a plastic stock on a levergun.
I wonder about the sudden interest. Are people actually thinking there's a levergun fad going on post Ruger-Marlin? Or do they just want to have a backup product line in case of nu-AWB?
Does anyone believe the rise of pistol braces was *really* for some poor disabled veteran with a bad arm? You know cause a good solution for holding an ar/ak sbr is to make someone hold out several pounds of metal a foot and change out from a fully extended arm with just a little bit of velcro around their forearm?
To me it's murky if the original case was honest about the intent. But the 'rise' is for sure about an SBR dodge and that's okay. Make the ADA worth something for once.
 
"Guinea Pig" Bullpup Ruger 10/22 Chassis that feeds from Keltec CP33 magazines
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Al Qaeda militant in Iblib, Syria. He may or may not be a member of Xhemeti Alban, a group of Albanian Islamists as they have a bunch of Zenitco'd AK's. His suppressor is of indigenous manufacture
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You know that image of the Filipino integrally suppressed grease gun with the chintzy red dot? there exists a sterling in the exact same configuration
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"Tangara" DIY multi caliber Delayed blowback PCC by Brazilian dev "Ze Carioca" at SHOT 2024
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SKX Rifle based on the Pearce Armory ILS Chassis for SKS rifles
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1911 made for Bullseye shooting by Archibald R. Brinckerhoff
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They don't make 'em like that any more (guns or names)

To little fanfare PSA has announced a product that I believe has the potential to be revolutionary, the E4 bolt.
Beefed up and rounded lugs, dual ejectors and enhanced spring. Essentially a KAC E3 but will be cheaper and PSA will produce more of them in a year than KAC would have produced in a decade.
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Foxtrot mike has made a new kind of barrel, 100% monolithic (barrel extension, gas block and muzzle device) the gas port is also drilled at 45 degrees.

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Russian 6x49mm Unified test bed platform
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KS0-9 "Kretchet"
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I predict that Compensators in various forms are going to be the next big thing regarding pistols, I also believe that time is now.
Some time ago I wrote this here post. I would like to make an updated version of it to further support my position.
In the time since that I wrote these posts, many and more compensated pistols have been released. At SHOT which at the time of writing is still ongoing new compensated models and compensators have been seen from Shadow Systems, Canik, PSA, FN and Radian. Both FN and Radian are selling aftermarket micro comps for the FN 509 and Sig P365 now



Lastly I wanted to write some musings in the form of a mini essay

The Rise of the Superguns

The history of firearms has been one of constant tinkering and re-engineering, leading to the recognition of flaws and deficiencies. Since their invention various manufacturers, businessmen, creatives and intellectuals have sought to make firearms better either in all regards or for their specific purposes. As history was written and humanity marched on, it's technological acumen increased alongside its works and creations. Everything people used in their everyday lives were either improved or completely replaced by a superior product, iron gave way to steel, coal to oil, rubber to synthetic materials. The same applied to firearms and especially pistols (which while it took me a little while to get here is the main subject of this blurb) they went from flintlock to percussion revolver to cartridge revolver to single stack straight blowback to double stack recoil operated to polymer frame and it's current highest evolution being a stippled frame with WML, RMR and compensator. The progenitors of the aforementioned accessories were competition shooters who first mounted an Aimpoint 3000 to a side rail in order to drop their overall course time by 1 second. The weapons they use are dubbed race guns, highly tuned and purpose built to have every advantage while still complying with the rules of the various games the competitors participated in.

I believe that we have come to a point or are coming to a point where technology has advanced enough and enough cultural taboos have melted away that were are on the precipice of a revolution in defensive pistols. I say this because never before have their been as many modern style pistols on the market that use unique and proprietary actions and mechanisms that enhance their performance. To name a few

-Laugo Alien
-FK BRNO PSD
-Archon Gen 2 series
-RIA 5.0
-The newly revitalized H9

And to a lesser extent various 2011s.
I believe in the future CCW's will shoot more like race guns, fast, accurate and in long strings of fire.
 
Bullpup M-14
Got a feeling that would be very popular as DMR in Afghanistan had they went with instead of the EBR.
AKB-23 bullup conversion for BRN-180
Oh hey, a sa-80 that wasn't made by non gunsmiths and engineers and didn't use mild stamped steel for it's parts.
 
To me it's murky if the original case was honest about the intent. But the 'rise' is for sure about an SBR dodge and that's okay. Make the ADA worth something for once.
Know what bugged me the most out of all of it? These fucking jagoffs who put up videos of themselves at a range and getting pissy because their "pistol" isn't allowed in the pistol range nigga you're firing an intermediate cartridge rifle that in they say is a pistol because of it's dimensions.
 
I think companies figured out that a portion of the gun community is willing to shell out $1000+ for one in current year, so they're jumping on the bandwagon. Similar situation with all the 16" PCCs getting dumped on the market.
i'd argue that PCCs have more appeal than a tactical lever-action rifle. at the same time, a backpacking survival rifle might have a real cause in a modernized lever-action. it's kinda niche, like some guns are.
Well before I obtained experience with SBRs in intermediate rifle calibers I thought a PCC would be a solid addition to anyone's arsenal. I now no longer see them as the best answer to a home defense or PDW type platform. I believe they have their merits though with the price of many of them being as high or higher than carbines chambered in a rifle round it's rather difficult for me to justify their purchase. At least for myself.

Still, I do wish I'd had the money and foresight to purchase a Sig MPX 8" in 9mm when they could be found much more easily.
1911 made for Bullseye shooting by Archibald R. Brinckerhoff
How in the fuck would one use a magazine in this? Dude, you find some interesting things.
To little fanfare PSA has announced a product that I believe has the potential to be revolutionary, the E4 bolt.
Beefed up and rounded lugs, dual ejectors and enhanced spring. Essentially a KAC E3 but will be cheaper and PSA will produce more of them in a year than KAC would have produced in a decade.
I like the idea of dual ejectors. I doubt I'll replace any of my current bolts with an E4 but I'll probably buy one or two as a replacement part to have on hand. I wish something similar to these upgrades could be done for bolts that non-5.56 rifles use, like 6 ARC and such. I understand why that's not possible but too bad it isn't. Though to be fair, I don't see myself running my 6 ARC anywhere near as often as my 5.56 rifles.
 
Do we have any based Euro-Gun Owners here?

Yes, but please don't ask about self-defense, the situation here in Europe bar a couple countries is rather alien compared to the US. After a while, I learned you can't simply discuss it. Gun culture is a tad different, and prices too. Chinese (and once, Russian) guns are plentiful, "demilitarized" guns are quite common despite European attempts to ruin our fun, and ARs are goddamn expensive.


Personally I think of it as there's honest wear and then there's being careless. Like I don't expect a gun to be perfect and will wear when used but that doesn't mean I'm gonna drag it along a gravel road.

Most of my guns come from countries that no longer exist, and some are close to a century old. They give joy to me as items and pieces of history, and I consider worthwhile to keep them in good condition for when I'm dead and someone else will enjoy them.

After seeing far too many rusted hulks in the hand of complete retards I entertain the opinion that yes, you should care to minimize wear and tear even on your "less valuable" shooters.
 
I now no longer see them as the best answer to a home defense or PDW type platform.
i think the key factor is total cost of ownership, from initial purchase, through to ammunition and accessories like magazines. rifles also have a downside in many scenarios where a defensive use would require additional precautions such as inside apartments where a poorly trained person can deafen themselves or where centerfire rifle ammunition is significantly more expensive or restricted. some people might already have a pistol that has ready magazines and a cheap "rifle" that takes the same ammunition or magazine is useful for a purely defensive situation.
 
Introducing- Ohio Ordnance's REAPR
("recoil enhanced automatic precision rifle")

It looks like an Americanized MG3 (or Ameli); modularized/chassisfied, gamerized, and in .338 magnum. Recoil enhanced, indeed.
:story:

Cool, but definitely not for us plebs.
 
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PSA is running a vote on their site for some upcoming weapons.
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Four flavors of Dagger ( .22, Full size long AKA G17, 10MM Compact and "Tactical" .45
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A build it yourself Bolt action, .308 and 6.5 Creedmor first
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Olcan ( Bullpup JAKL, compatible with existing JAKL uppers )
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Vuk ( AKV521 )
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570 ( Build it yourself 12 gauge, 870 stock and handguard compatible )
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9MM JAKL
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.308 JAKL
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Enhanced Sabre M4
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The two most interesting to me, the X5.7 (MP7 at home)
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And a grenade launcher (37MM?) in both standalone and underbarrel attachment forms
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Well, Europe is the continent that lies just off our coast but yes, filthy Britisher here. What do you want to know?
Got no questions really, just thought I'd ask if there's anyone else of us around before I enter an American-Centric thread, as those, at least on /k/ always end up being absolute sperg-fests.

Anyways, one of my luckier finds from last year. Norwegian Contract H&K MP5. Yes the real deal. It's Ex-Full Auto though. From this year on I'll be elligble for actual FA-Guns so that will be fun. Anyone versed in the European Gun Scene can probably imagine which countries I'm certainly not from, given how restrictively Ex-FA is usually treated.

Paid 1200 bucks for this badboy. A deal of a lifetime for sure, given that MKE and POF MP5s still go for roughly 2.2k here. This being an actual honest to god H&K and all.
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Got no questions really, just thought I'd ask if there's anyone else of us around before I enter an American-Centric thread, as those, at least on /k/ always end up being absolute sperg-fests.
Daaaamn, i'm deeply envious. Unfortunately I was too young to be shooting before our two big ban waves (semi-auto fullbore in 88, pistols in 97).

I have a fairly basic-bitch typical British shooter collection: Howa 1500 in .308, Tikka T1x in .22lr, Rossi 92 in .38/.357 and Colt Walker in .44, plus enough shotguns I can't remember how many without going to look. One of the few things I do appreciate about our gun laws is the availability of moderators/suppressors/silencers/whatever the fuck you want to call them, we're very much in the "they are health and safety equipment" camp.
 
Well before I obtained experience with SBRs in intermediate rifle calibers I thought a PCC would be a solid addition to anyone's arsenal. I now no longer see them as the best answer to a home defense or PDW type platform.
I'd be curious to hear some more of your thoughts on this. I own a 5.5" AR9 that I think fits the bill for home defense when you factor in things like over pen, 3 point contact, etc in a "bump in the night" scenario. But I'm all ears if there's a better tool for the job in your opinion
 
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