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[mlanguishi]

If Trump comes out and backs Texas.. Things might get interesting quick. A single 'God Bless Texas' right now. That's all it would take.

 

[WelperHelper99]

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This is what I've been trying to get at as well. Unless Texas by some miracle gets basically every state in the Union to back it, they are fucked. They won't even be a state by the end, they will be a territory ala reconstruction. That's assuming Biden doesn't just NUKE Texas, which is a option in the federal arsenal. Texas has chosen suicide.

 

[Breadbassket]

His shizo sovereign citizen bullshit aside. Abbott seems like a nice guy put into a very fucking bad situation. I could see why he thought this was the only option. But this is not going to end well. I mean, if he chose to cite the Supreme Court why not cite the fucking decision that said you can secede if you call it a rebellion, you know the fucking decision Texas was a part of immediately after the civil war?

Thousands of people might die because of Biden and because Abbott though that this was the perfect time to test out his sovereign citizen bullshit.

Does he think the Feds will simply give up? Feds that deliberately lied to Trump just so more Americans could die in foreign wars?

We either get more states willingly disobeying Supreme Court decisions or the federal government calls the bluff and takes action. This wouldn't be the first time in recent memory states (and the Biden administration) have attempted to go around the rulings from the judicial branch but the severity and scale of the situation will have consequences no matter what the outcome of the situation is.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

That's assuming Biden doesn't just NUKE Texas

I don’t think they’d do it. Too bad of optics. They drop it on Texas, Russia happily justifies dropping it on Ukraine and Biden’s good friend Zelensky.

Also, hopefully they aren’t THAT bloodthirsty, but its the feds, hard to guess

 

[WelperHelper99]

I don’t think they’d do it. Too bad of optics. They drop it on Texas, Russia happily justifies dropping it on Ukraine and Biden’s good friend Zelensky.

Also, hopefully they aren’t THAT bloodthirsty, but its the feds, hard to guess

I think the reason that there is no media presence on this right now is that they are fucking stunlocked. And very angry. Angry feds do very violent things. Nuking Texas is on the table. They DO NOT want a rebellion. In their eyes, it's righteous punishment. They think in terms of power. It's why I'm afraid honestly.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Nuking Texas is on the table.

Holy shit, no it isn't.

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.

Do you have ANY idea what the chains of authority to authorize a fucking launch even are? Do you even know what the process is for determining a target is for just a drone strike with a spicy dildo?

Do you honestly think Biden or that half-wit Sec-Def just waddle into the office with shit in their pants, press the big red button marked "NUKE TEXAS" and Texas just vanishes in a cloud of vapor?

Holy fucking shit.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

 

[mlanguishi]

Holy shit, no it isn't.

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.

Do you have ANY idea what the chains of authority to authorize a fucking launch even are? Do you even know what the process is for determining a target is for just a drone strike with a spicy dildo?

Do you honestly think Biden or that half-wit Sec-Def just waddle into the office with shit in their pants, press the big red button marked "NUKE TEXAS" and Texas just vanishes in a cloud of vapor?

Holy fucking shit.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

I don't think it's literally 'on the table', but you know all those DC politicians are jizzing at the idea.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

For those who say Feds will cuck. Think through the chain of events. If they do, what stops the other states? Suddenly, there is no more Union, and the feds lost the only two things they ever cared about -power and control

Nuking Texas is on the table

Personally, I think that’s off.

Do you have ANY idea what the chains of authority to authorize a fucking launch even are?

Constitutionally? Biden. Just Biden.

 

[The Ugly One]

Abbott, on the other hand, just effectively seceded from the Union, declared themselves “supreme law of the land” by granting himself unlimited power using flimsy legal reasoning, and effectively called Biden’s bluff with zero regard to what’s to happen.

State militias protected the state without asking the federal government permission throughout the entirety of the Indian conflicts. A militia that the state can't call on to maintain its own security isn't a militia, it's a branch of the federal army. The fact that the Constitution speaks repeatedly of militias means it accepts without question the right of states to use armed force to defend themselves from hostiles, because that's what a militia is.

Not that it matters what I think, as I'm not a judge, and it's not like judges respect anyone's rights any more.

 

[Scale Smerch]

IMO a lot of the talk of prelude to civil war is overblown, but mostly because there's no indication what exactly Texas will do differently now. If this just remains a spat over barbed wire in Eagle Pass it's easier for the Biden admin to keep privately ignoring and pretending a problem doesn't exist - i.e. letting the courts handle it instead. Abbott starts locking down the entire Texas border? That's an escalation which cannot be overlooked.

Until Abbott shows otherwise and fully acts on what this letter allows for it's largely political theatre.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Holy shit, no it isn't.

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.

Do you have ANY idea what the chains of authority to authorize a fucking launch even are? Do you even know what the process is for determining a target is for just a drone strike with a spicy dildo?

Do you honestly think Biden or that half-wit Sec-Def just waddle into the office with shit in their pants, press the big red button marked "NUKE TEXAS" and Texas just vanishes in a cloud of vapor?

Holy fucking shit.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

The president is the final arbiter on that. Biden fucking would. I would think someone formerly in the service would know that.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

A militia that the state can't call on to maintain its own security isn't a militia, it's a branch of the federal army. The fact that the Constitution speaks repeatedly of militias means it accepts without question the right of states to use armed force to defend themselves from hostiles, because that's what a militia is.

Ignoring for a second that all Militia are under control of the President, there is a difference between calling up a militia and declaring that federal laws as they relate to you are null and void, and that so are the decisions of the courts.

what exactly Texas will do differently now

Something else than Status Quo otherwise why did he risk pulling this shit?

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

The president is the final arbiter on that. Biden fucking would. I would think someone formerly in the service would know that.

And I think that as someone that was involved IN THE VERY THING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, I can tell you...

No, he fucking isn't.

The ability for a POTUS to decide to just launch a fucking nuke for shits and giggles was eliminated during the Nixon resignation scandal. There are multiple chains of authority to go through.

Goddamn...

Just shut the fuck up.,

Constitutionally? Biden. Just Biden.

He can give the ORDER for it to happen.

But legally, there are a LOT of circumstances that it would be an ILLEGAL ORDER, and thus those in the chain of command and control are obligated, BY THE UCMJ, to refuse that unlawful order.

And holy shit, what the fuck are they even going to nuke in Texas?

Give me a targeting criteria that doesn't hurt the Dems.

Fort Hood? That's the Feds
Dallas/Ft Worth? Oh, the blue stronghold?
Austin, to hit Abbot directly? Oh, you mean the blue stronghold?
Fort Bliss? That's the feds.
Eagle Pass? Fallout into Mexico. Act of War.
San Antonio? Blue.
Houston? Blue.

What are you going to hit?

What IS there he can hit with a nuke?

Top it off with the fact that nuking ANYTHING in Texas puts every fucking state in the Union, every single citizen on notice that the Feds are going to kill people, indiscriminately, by the tens of thousands, with weapons that will leave scars for decades.

Goddamn it, nukes aren't an automatic I WIN!!!! button. They are strategic and tactical weapons.

 

[mlanguishi]

And holy shit, what the fuck are they even going to nuke in Texas?

Give me a targeting criteria that doesn't hurt the Dems.

Hey that's an idea, maybe they'll pull a Putin and say we have to pre-emptively invade to save our Texan Democrats from getting killed by the MAGAs.

 

[Sulla]

You guys have been watching too many shitty netflix dramas.

 

[WelperHelper99]

And holy shit, what the fuck are they even going to nuke in Texas?

The capitol for one. The center of rebellion. You're also assuming they would be rational. You are assuming Biden hasn't centralized nuclear authority since you were in. That isn't even a bet, that's gambling. You are lying to yourself.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The ability for a POTUS to decide to just launch a fucking nuke for shits and giggles was eliminated during the Nixon resignation scandal. There are multiple chains of authority to go through.

President issues a nuclear strike. The army either obeys, and that’s it, as is the norm constitutionally, or they rebel and either win or are court marshalled

There is no constitutional way to limit Biden’s powers to launch a nuke, as there were none for Trump (even the media admitted that Milley’s jerking off over the magic protections he put into place was just that; jerking off), nor Obama.

But legally, there are a LOT of circumstances that it would be an ILLEGAL ORDER, and thus those in the chain of command and control are obligated, BY THE UCMJ, to refuse that unlawful order.

There is no illegal order. The soldiers are required to obey. If your gay federal law goes against that:
1. Biden admin has ignored federal laws multiple times
and;
2. They are unconstitutional.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Are you really cucked if no one knows you're cucked?

Expect a total blackout with journoscum outright refusing to acknowledge any of this is happening.

 

[mlanguishi]

The capitol for one. The center of rebellion. You're also assuming they would be rational. You are assuming Biden hasn't centralized nuclear authority since you were in. That isn't even a bet, that's gambling. You are lying to yourself.

Oh God, the last damn place they'd nuke would be Austin. They'd have a better result dropping a B61 on the Alamo.

 

[tehpope]

Or, the feds will use an asset to bring in a "Freedom convoy" style event to trick some 1/6 style idiots into place so they can false flag some dead brown people and make it politically radioactive to dare have a border for the next year at least, ideally the next 10+ or so.

The former I can see. But the latter (bolded) I'm doubtful. The mayors in several blue cities have been complaining about illegals for some time. Not having a border will rapidly collapse the country.