Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Fried-Rice12]

Time to see if Putin's promises of aid to American rebels was true.

To my fellow Burgers...keep your rifles close, keep your families secure, and keep your guard up. Things are about to get interesting.

I do not like this. He will probably demand the whole of Alaska in exchange for help. Or worse.
I recall when the Soviets "helped" the Spanish commies. They spent more time executing other leftards for not licking stalin's boots than they did fighting.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I do not like this. He will probably demand the whole of Alaska in exchange for help. Or worse.
I recall when the Soviets "helped" the Spanish commies. They spent more time executing other leftards for not licking stalin's boots than they did fighting.

Alaska is a fair price to end the disease that is globohomos and trannies from the public forever.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

Alaska is a fair price to end the disease that is globohomos and trannies from the public forever.

There is no point in asking for help when one effectively liberate oneself.
In the world of global politics, allies can turn into enemies in the blink of an eye.
The USSR and USA were allies in WW2. They became enemies faster than one could say "comrade".

The Russian way of thinking is fundamentally incompatible with the American way of thinking.
Such differences will inevitably lead to conflict and the prospect of Russian nuclear missiles stationed in Russian-occupied Alaska is not a good one.

 

[geckogoy]

Do they have any airfields left or in-air refueling capabilities? I'm afraid this will give the US an excuse to park an aircraft carrier off Crimea as a launching point, but there's no way Ukrainian pilots are learning ship landings in such a short period of time.

They have airfields. No need for in-air refueling, f-16 has sufficient range its not a very big theatre. Also, it cannot operate off of carriers so that is not a factor.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

They have airfields. No need for in-air refueling, f-16 has sufficient range its not a very big theatre. Also, it cannot operate off of carriers so that is not a factor.

All of Ukraine's airfileds are within range of Russia's weapons and F16's can only operate from maybe one or two. There's a reason Russia hasn't rendered them inoperable yet.

 

[Dirty Larry]

I do not like this. He will probably demand the whole of Alaska in exchange for help. Or worse.
I recall when the Soviets "helped" the Spanish commies. They spent more time executing other leftards for not licking stalin's boots than they did fighting.

Why would Texans care about what happens to Alaska in a world where they secede from the Union?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

There is no point in asking for help when one effectively liberate oneself.
In the world of global politics, allies can turn into enemies in the blink of an eye.
The USSR and USA were allies in WW2. They became enemies faster than one could say "comrade".

The Russian way of thinking is fundamentally incompatible with the American way of thinking.
Such differences will inevitably lead to conflict and the prospect of Russian nuclear missiles stationed in Russian-occupied Alaska is not a good one.

The alliance of USA and USSR was always a marriage of convenience and not of political alignment. Infact, Stalin and Truman were already on each other's throat near the end of the world war 2.


Anyhow, only thing that Russians give a shit is Russian affairs and borders. Once Americans go back to giving a shit about American shit, Russia and USA will become politically aligned first time in the history since the collapse of Soviet Union.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Me and my friends are all armed and pissed off lost our guns and BPVs, and scopes, and night sights, and heavy gear in a huge lake.

Man, it happened to you too? Shiiieeet, Lakes are fuckin' SCPs with how much they just make guns and gear vanish! Every fuckin' time I've gone fishing with my dad, I've lost hardware!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Probably if I was trying to do this sort of thing my first choice would be Ukrainian veterans but mercenaries and troops from foreign countries are good as well.

Bring in foreigners to war on the American people, who are demanding the right to keep out illegal foreigners the Federal government is bringing in to replace them?

Yeah, they'll do it. I don't whether to laugh or cry. Or for who.

Ukrainian mercs? Well, if the hohols think the Russians were pissed off motherfuckers they are going to wish they were back in the Ukraine fighting over some cratered settlement against Dimtri and Ivan before you can say "Это пиздец".

By the way, Texas has it own version of rasputitsa. And our version of Cossacks sport tomahawks.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

The US military banned mascots. Ships can't even have cats. MWD are equipment that got abandoned in Afghanistan (read the evac of Afghanistan thread).

This reminds a scene in Apocalypse Now thats stuck with me. Brando is recording his tapes & says something to the effect of "the military trains recruits to drop napalm on kids but won't let them write "Fuck" on their airplanes because its obscene."

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

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"this year" is a long fucking time window.

Ukrainian mercs? Well, if the hohols think the Russians were pissed off motherfuckers they are going to wish they were back in the Ukraine fighting over some cratered settlement against Dimtri and Ivan before you can say "Это пиздец".

By the way, Texas has it own version of rasputitsa. And our version of Cossacks sport tomahawks.

The ultimate insult is some farmer in Ohio calling them "Belgian faggots" before he uses the PTO on his tractor to lynch them from a telephone pole.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The last thing they'd hear is some farmer in Ohio calling them "Belgian faggots" before he uses the PTO on his tractor to winch them up on a telephone pole.

I remember how everyone was convinced the Feds were going to bring UN soldiers on American soil but this is so insane someone will sign off on it. Every GWOT vet with a grudge is going to flock to the Texas side. And the glee in the Kremlin when they get the chance to arm American rebels will be off the scale.

 

[geckogoy]

The only reason to think the feds would involve foreigners is the fact that the only local forces that would be willing to engage at all would be niggers, who would likely be slaughtered like animals by units turning coat in defense of texas. Their only choice would be to try to prevent their own forces from mobilizing and to bring in outsiders.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

And the glee in the Kremlin when they get the chance to arm American rebels will be off the scale.

The feds would seal the Mexico/Texas border shut in about 90 seconds.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

There is no point in asking for help when one effectively liberate oneself.
In the world of global politics, allies can turn into enemies in the blink of an eye.
The USSR and USA were allies in WW2. They became enemies faster than one could say "comrade".

The Russian way of thinking is fundamentally incompatible with the American way of thinking.
Such differences will inevitably lead to conflict and the prospect of Russian nuclear missiles stationed in Russian-occupied Alaska is not a good one.

France supported the Colonies during the American Revolution so hard that it pretty much bankrupted them. Then they had a little revolution of their own.

The smart thing to do in a ACW2 scenario is to get as much Chinese support as possible. Find a modern Ben Franklin to go over there and woo all the rich Chinese housewives and contract VD. You can fix your country and fuck up your greatest geo-political rival at the same time!

This reminds a scene in Apocalypse Now thats stuck with me. Brando is recording his tapes & says something to the effect of "the military trains recruits to drop napalm on kids but won't let them write "Fuck" on their airplanes because its obscene."

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The feds would seal the Mexico/Texas border shut in about 90 seconds.

There's always the Gulf Coast. As if Florida wouldn't hop on.

 

[Napoleon III]

I remember how everyone was convinced the Feds were going to bring UN soldiers on American soil but this is so insane someone will sign off on it. Every GWOT vet with a grudge is going to flock to the Texas side. And the glee in the Kremlin when they get the chance to arm American rebels will be off the scale.

It's the right decision to make quite frankly if you are in that position. There is a reason the Russian Empire liked to use Cossacks to put down revolts.

You can't magic up a functioning army out of the portion of the domestic population that are on your side so you need soldiers that are at least decent to stand a chance. So the only real option is foreigners.

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The F-16 is one of the only things the US has that theoretically could actually make something of a difference. I still think Russia would eventually win if the US sent a thousand F-16s but it would be very painful and unpleasant for a while. The key word is theoretically because there is no way Ukraine could maintain that many or even have the pilots to fly all of them. Besides the fact you don't get good at flying something like an F-16 in a single year. And arming them with munitions is not something the US can do forever.

The way I would use these if I was Ukraine and I only have a couple is to use them defensively. They are probably good enough at fighting air defense to be able to survive for a little while. If Russia is launching a major attack go in do as much damage as possible and stop the offensive then quickly run away. But judging from how Ukraine used the armored vehicles it has received they won't be smart enough to do this.

The smart thing to do in a ACW2 scenario is to get as much Chinese support as possible. Find a modern Ben Franklin to go over there and woo all the rich Chinese housewives and contract VD. You can fix your country and fuck up your greatest geo-political rival at the same time!

This is the exact reason Putin said the election was stolen from Trump. I don't think Putin cares either way quite frankly but it sows division amongst the enemy in regard to Russia.

Absolutely you send arms to any kind of rebel you can use against your geopolitical rival. That is basically what the US did with the Ukraine war after all. This war is retarded from America's perspective because of how stupid America is and the elite have no idea what they are doing but this type of thing is a great thing to do if you get an opportunity.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It's the right decision to make quite frankly if you are in that position. There is a reason the Russian Empire liked to use Cossacks to put down revolts.

You can't magic up a functioning army out of the portion of the domestic population that are on your side so you need soldiers that are at least decent to stand a chance. So the only real option is foreigners.

One of the biggest and earliest propaganda coups American rebels made was highlighting that the British were relying heavily on Hessian mercs auxiliaries; it riled up colonialists tremendously and is listed as one of violations of colonial rights in the US Declaration of Independence.

I'm pretty sure the same would happen again with hohols fighting to oppress American rights on American soil. There just isn't any way to spin it favorably no matter how desperate the Federal government is.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

One of the biggest and earliest propaganda coups American rebels made was highlighting that the British were relying heavily on Hessian mercs auxiliaries; it riled up colonialists tremendously and is listed as one of violations of colonial rights in the US Declaration of Independence.

I'm pretty sure the same would happen again with hohols fighting to oppress American rights on American soil. There just isn't any way to spin it favorably no matter how desperate the Federal government is.

Funny thing with the Hessians is that some of the defected to the Americans and they became some of the earliest Americans.
I dunno if will apply this time, especially since the judeo-bolsheviks are intent on arming illegals invaders to fight for them.

 

[Betonhaus]

The F-16 is one of the only things the US has that theoretically could actually make something of a difference. I still think Russia would eventually win if the US sent a thousand F-16s but it would be very painful and unpleasant for a while. The key word is theoretically because there is no way Ukraine could maintain that many or even have the pilots to fly all of them. Besides the fact you don't get good at flying something like an F-16 in a single year. And arming them with munitions is not something the US can do forever.

I figured the only reason why Ukrain still has useable airstrips is Russia is planning to bomb them the moment a bunch of f-16s arrive