🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[S.C.U.D.]

We'll all be back for season 3.

 

[Noble Redditor]

This is a thread about an online reality show being run by two lolcows, Jet Neptune and Sam Hyde. What's stunning is that they managed to make it to the end of two seasons before burning through the goodwill of many of the people posting here. I think it's because they got lucky with a really good cast in Season 2, but they managed to squander it by the middle of the season.

I know what this thread is. It's people writing six million word posts explaining how horrible and miserable the entire show has been from start to finish, focusing on every single small detail and repeating the same thing as the person above them and the person above them and the person above them. Just the same as season 1. I'm constantly blown away by how long some of these posts are, page after page. I'll read the first sentence, scroll to the last and wow it's literally just the same rehashed shit from season 1.

70% of posts are "I'm done I'm never watching again" and then four days later they're back with an autistically detailed recap of every second of the four days they swore they wouldn't watch. This thread was a lot better for season one. There were more people giving breakdowns, and keeping track of what was actually happening. Now it's mostly just people who want to participate but don't have any idea what's going on. "I just watched ten minutes let me write a dissertation about why Jet Neptune is incompetent."

"Production is being too soft. Production is being too hard.
Production interferes too much.
Production sleeps too much."

What the show needs more than anything is a fresh perspective and balance but it's not going to happen. Sam and Jet don't care about the show. It's ironic because I personally have barely watched this season and could care less who won. I just find the repetitive, long winded criticisms annoying and it makes the thread shit.

 

[Devil's Avocado]

I agree that overall, the season was a definite improvement over the first one (even with the production seemingly deliberately trying to ruin the show), but one thing that annoyed me to no end was the extreme curation of TTS. I'm not even talking about Jet/production sending like 1/10th of all messages, but it often felt the production used TTS as a proxy to advance whatever narrative they had in mind at that specific point. This led to situations where there would be sudden bursts of TTS's about something specific, because those would be the only messages that they let through, and after the house moved onto the next thing, it would never be mentioned again because then these messages would get filtered in favour of something else.

 

[Chuck McGill]

I know Sam mentioned hiring a casting agency next season but I kind of hope they don't. Getting the autistic rejects of society on the show is part of the charm. Sure if they get a bunch of fame hungry California normies the conversation might flow better but you're not gonna get "Jimmy fucks dogs", Lubecooch, or Summer freaking out. Those are the reasons people watch the show. If I wanted to watch people flirt on reality TV I'd watch any other reality show.

They should instead take time to plan things out better. Create challenges that will help the fish show their personalities for the first week or 2 and allow them to open up. Maybe give them something to do during the day.

Anyway, I enjoyed the show mostly because sneedchat makes it fun so I'll definitely be there with you all next season.

I think Sam expecting these types and not getting them for season 2 partially accounts for the aborted cult arc. On that interview Sam all but said that those LA clout-chaser types are the ones that deserve to get fucked on the most. He likely wrote the cult arc expecting a bunch of those types but instead ended up with the most vulnerable autistic members of his own fanbase. And it's pretty clear from other stuff he's said over the years that he realizes he's a father figure to some of his fans and he has to at least try to be responsible with that power. It's one thing to break down someone that thinks they're gonna hit it big by being on a reality show, breaking someone that likes you and is autistic and already broken is another.

I think if he does use a casting agency, we're likely to get an experience that's more consistently entertaining, but I can just about guarantee you're not getting moments like Sam almost crying at kicking off Tayleigh or TJ and Shinji embracing post-fight. For as rough as season 2 was at parts, enjoy it. We're never going to see anything like it again.

 

[EenGevolg]

Tay had around 13k, and Shinji also had several grand, but considering that JC was given 10 grand, they might've been paid extra.

Sam also gave Shinji the golden scarab, which should be at least $15k, but they changed (or at least pretended to) the value so much that I have no idea how much it finally was. Probably something to ask him about once he starts streaming/answering questions.

 

[retard strength II]

For the record, during the final boxing match TJ and Shinji were told no body shots. Shinji wasn't being stupid by not going for TJ's ribs, they were told not to. Scott told them to ignore TTS saying to body shot to make sure they understood.

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

I know what this thread is. It's people writing six million word posts explaining how horrible and miserable the entire show has been from start to finish, focusing on every single small detail and repeating the same thing as the person above them and the person above them and the person above them. Just the same as season 1. I'm constantly blown away by how long some of these posts are, page after page. I'll read the first sentence, scroll to the last and wow it's literally just the same rehashed shit from season 1.

70% of posts are "I'm done I'm never watching again" and then four days later they're back with an autistically detailed recap of every second of the four days they swore they wouldn't watch. This thread was a lot better for season one. There were more people giving breakdowns, and keeping track of what was actually happening. Now it's mostly just people who want to participate but don't have any idea what's going on. "I just watched ten minutes let me write a dissertation about why Jet Neptune is incompetent."

"Production is being too soft. Production is being too hard.
Production interferes too much.
Production sleeps too much."

What the show needs more than anything is a fresh perspective and balance but it's not going to happen. Sam and Jet don't care about the show. It's ironic because I personally have barely watched this season and could care less who won. I just find the repetitive, long winded criticisms annoying and it makes the thread shit.

people hate admitting they had fun on neptunes dime

 

[curbside2]

For the record, during the final boxing match TJ and Shinji were told no body shots. Shinji wasn't being stupid by not going for TJ's ribs, they were told not to. Scott told them to ignore TTS saying to body shot to make sure they understood.

TJ won with a body shot.

 

[montzym]

(forgot my old account)
The potential it had doesn't matter if everything was wasted. The season was pure slop; a nasty production filled with forced drug use, sexual exploitation, sexual harassment, dumb pointless humiliation rituals, failed scripted events, shock value stunts for no reason, forced, blatantly fake, cringe narratives, failed loud=funny comedy, 40% dead air, 30% wiggers panicking because the script is getting eclipsed by organic content. 1% of fun content can't save it. Fishtank is now forever branded with the mark of failure and immorality; it makes Jackass look like a piece of classical art, like a Michelangelo or a Tchaikovsky. This is Goran and Scam's magnun opus, what they'll always be remembered for.

And it was all done by the hands and mind of Jet Neptune (birthname Goran), the director, with help from his yes wiggers, and his boss Scam. It's absurb how disastrous the season was; production had so many opportunities to save the show or improve things, but they always chose the wrong path, as if too high on drugs to function mentally, until there was no show and almost no 9 dollar tts. I could go on for hours, but I'll just mention the ending. They have to be brain damaged to think that ending and the setup looked any good at all, and not like dog diarrhea; they kept building the girl as the main character and underdog, dogpiled, unfairly hated by everyone, but still the one that created the content, while the other 2 were the weak and boring tts and production puppets, needing all the help from everyone in that house to not quit before the finale; she got the worst humiliations the minds of psychopathic wiggers high on whippits can offer, torturing her mentally and physically, dogpiling her non-stop; the humiliation and dogpile even peaked the night before the finale (all for a piss poor pun: "lol dumb bitch, you did all that for nothing"), and continued throughout the challenges. Any non brain damaged adult human would think that building up all that narrative and character would lead to something, anything; but the wigger brains decided they'll just let the 2 coddled contestants eliminate the underdog, unfairly, with 2v1 team up, challenges catered towards the 2 males and still needing to team up against her, rules changed at the last minute to keep her always without a chance, free chips to help/save TJ, help from production and the entire house and tts so the 2 robots know what to do, stalling the entire last day so she can't catch up, the big advantage in the finale that she earned and never got (looking back TJ got it instead lmao); and then just declare one of the 2 weaklings the winner.

It turns out the real setup in goran's mind was building that "brotherhood" as two gay lovers having to battle despite loving each other so much, while the character with the strongest arc was just an extra in his story. In pedowood terms, would be like Commodus killing Maximmus at the end, and then Quintus and him hugging each other crying "we did it" and everyone clapping; or Cinderella getting murdered by her ugly sisters and celebrating they no longer have to deal with that bitch. I just makes no sense unless it was an intentional awful joke, like Scam's latest stand up. Never give 1 cent to drug addict wiggers, let alone 1 million dollars and your cash cow.

 

[anliteralidiot]

For the record, during the final boxing match TJ and Shinji were told no body shots. Shinji wasn't being stupid by not going for TJ's ribs, they were told not to. Scott told them to ignore TTS saying to body shot to make sure they understood.

Shinji also has a weak point on his eardrum. He got injured weeks ago, when Jimmy had the air horn, and I don't think it ever healed. And if it did, it probably made ear shots a bitch.

I was all-in for Shinji, but I'm happy for TJ.

 

[EenGevolg]

TJ won with a boxing shot.

It didn't really look like the shots themselves had much of an effect on either of them. It looked more like a mix of TJ having shockingly solid endurance, and Shinji completely gassing out. It was still pretty admirable to see him keep pushing and even strike better until the final drop in the tank he could physically give. Lesser men in the tank have tapped out the moment they started to run out of steam, because they weren't fighting a light woman.

people hate admitting they had fun on neptunes dime

In the end, Fishtank is still a really entertaining concept, one which takes the reality TV concepts like Big Brother and pushes them to an extreme that makes them genuinely engaging even as someone who doesn't like these shows. The problem that is hampering the show's potential to be even better is that Jet seems to genuinely not understand what makes his show work, and fails to plan shit in advance. Any time he was asked about what he liked the most in it, he gave the most retarded answers possible. Favorite S1 moment? The camping challenge. Favorite S2 moment? The fucking doll activity. Favorite S2 contestant? Brian.

 

[montzym]

Tay had around 13k, and Shinji also had several grand, but considering that JC was given 10 grand, they might've been paid extra.

This may not be true. JC was a special fish, she was the one that didn't know almost anything about the show or Scam, and the wiggers knew it, they got her because of that and probably had some plans to develop that. And I remember her mentioning to either Scam, or Cole outside of the tank, that she was hired as an actress, paid some sum and contacted by the wiggers through her insta or something, and that she wasn't interested until money was offered; I think she also mentioned she didnt even apply, the wiggers contacted her. So it wouldn't surprise if those 10k were from the actual contract with her, and not some pity bucks; which would mean tay is getting nothing extra, other than getting invited to post show wigger parties, to get her drunk again and video something nasty for future coercion. So I think she's not getting one extra cent from them, and I think that's good as long as she gets the fuck away from them as soon as possible, which is likely if she already contacted her father.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

70% of posts are "I'm done I'm never watching again" and then four days later they're back with an autistically detailed recap of every second of the four days they swore they wouldn't watch. This thread was a lot better for season one. There were more people giving breakdowns, and keeping track of what was actually happening. Now it's mostly just people who want to participate but don't have any idea what's going on. "I just watched ten minutes let me write a dissertation about why Jet Neptune is incompetent."

That sounds downstream of the show falling off hard in both quality and popularity.

What the show needs more than anything is a fresh perspective and balance but it's not going to happen. Sam and Jet don't care about the show.

Jet cares about the show but his perceptions about what is good for the show are so strange and out of harmony with what the bulk of the audience thinks that it would probably be better that he didn't care. He doesn't care about being prepared though.

 

[curbside2]

It didn't really look like the shots themselves had much of an effect on either of them. It looked more like a mix of TJ having shockingly solid endurance, and Shinji completely gassing out. It was still pretty admirable to see him keep pushing and even strike better until the final drop in the tank he could physically give. Lesser men in the tank have tapped out the moment they started to run out of steam, because they weren't fighting a light woman.

I don't mind. Just thought it was amusing that he won with an illegal shot.

 

[vena kirov]

Has there been any updates on Tay?

her known socials have been silent

 

[Ultrapenguin]

people hate admitting they had fun on neptunes dime

Well I didn't actually watch the show beyond the clips here, but I did have fun reading this thread, so good job Jet Neptune.

Also you look like you have mild down syndrome or something, Jet Neptune.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

Vance seething about Tay upstairs during the "flooding" wasn't him playing a character, it was the production's consensus on her as a person.

Vance was seething about Tay being "just a bitch" to Greg while comparing her to Letty who he said was funny. The problem with this assessment is that Tay was one of the more pleasant and likeable fish in the tank and was a great source of entertainment when paired with Jimmy, they made a natural duo with a lot of entertaining content that wasn't scripted or forced by production. Even random events such as when Jimmy woke up to a TTS shitting on them for getting fleeced by Shinji over the course of the night in the furniture challenge was funny, he immediately glances around and says "Uh, Tay? Where is all the stuff?" and she can't help but glance and says "Oh, Jesus christ!" while laughing, it was a hilarious moment for the audience from them. She suffered in terms of likeability the moment that Jimmy exited the show, this point is definitely the dividing line between the beginning being fun, lighthearted and sometimes edgy or gross into a pure insane asylum full of hostile actors lashing out at each other, making it increasingly unbearable and painful to watch as the fish were just getting put through the ringer.

After Jimmy was gone Tay just had TJ who could barely stutter out a complete sentence, Shinji who she got along with but was never really a funny duo with and had trouble communicating with because he was ESL, and Trish who she was feuding with. She had a few moments with Tai that were funny and got along great with Danye who respected her a lot, but nothing funny. The very concept of fun or comedic drained out of the show at high speed post Jimmy and was entirely gone when Tai left. The last two freeloaders being Frank who was just there to bully and Oliver who was only funny in a circumstantial way on his first day, being tricked by TTS into forcing himself to vomit on the promise that the audience would wild dog him free from the doghouse. The post-Jimmy half of the season was just challenges that had the fish screw with people and feuds derived from it. Tay had basically no way to be funny, nor did any of the other fish for that matter, "fun" was largely at the expense of someone over, like Tay pinning Fatty inside the gooncave or hurling slop on him over and over. Greg didn't even open up as a person until the final week and that is when the show was at its absolute lowest point and the fish were just half assing challenges and going insane from boredom, even then his initial introduction was the cast bullying him until he suddenly began opening up and being funny.

Even people like Betty could tell that the second half of the season was starting to get extremely hostile and the vibe was really offputting.


If Vance was mad that Tay was "just a bitch" its because she was the lone one still trying to participate in the challenges the show was offering and this is what they were offering to her.

 

[Enoch Emery]

If Vance was mad that Tay was "just a bitch" its because she was the lone one still trying to participate in the challenges the show was offering and this is what they were offering to her.

This is actually true. Sam liking tweets saying exactly this. That people need to be boring and do nothing to win, and that they fucked Tay over for not being boring.

 

[painburner]

I agree with most points made here in this thread, so I don't want to re-iterate the same shit.
Want to focus especially on this:

For a contest, I have to wonder how someone "wins" this contest. I think Summer yelled about having lots of fans. And you can maybe try to get another contestant to tard-rage breaking rules to get themselves kicked out, or to rage-quit.

So for the most part, you have the worst levels of drama induced attention whoring. And from there you have to hope that your kind of attention whoring creates a funny enough interesting story arc so that the producers will tailor the contests to give you the best chance of winning. Because if you are great for the show, the producers will try to craft scenarios where you stay on.

imo, the most satisfying form of the contest would be to have no clear and single "Winner".
Rather, since they put so much emphasis on the drama and the " hasslin' " sadism, it would be more respectful had they set the house in a survival type deal, where every fish gets rewarded for making it to the end. Having challenges distributed evenly every week, like the Cell and the Swamp Olympics would be used to keep competitiveness and interest high, but they would mainly be distinct, one time things with a separate reward. They could make it even sweeter and add incentive by halving or greatly reducing the existing winnings of any fish deciding to leave before the end. Not only would it discourage the autistic rage that is part and parcel of the fishtank community at this point (TJMaxxers etc.)
Even though I know this is a poor and low-effort grift at entertainment, it still is baffling how little humane respect the entirety of the show managed to show to its main components (the fish) . The reconciliation in the end where you're moved to tears is not something that redeems the sadism and the pain you were directly or indirectly inflicting the days prior non-stop. Considering how this leads to creating new lolcows and actively might sabotage someone's life is disturbing, especially presented like a victory.

 

[Prostolurk]

So if he liked that, it means Sam is obviously aware of the problem. Then why the fuck did the retarded mushmouth coomer get the 50k, Sam? Don't you think it's time to have a serious talk with Jet/Goran and discuss with him how much of a fucking nigger he's been throughout the season? Ever since S1 ended he's been nothing but a brainless tub of lard proving himself incompetent in every sense of that word, in so many situations - if we start from the disaster of the edited version of S1 and we go through the entire S2, from the first day to the last - he's brought either disaster or boredom to the show. He's clearly not good enough and needs to be put in his place. I legitimately propose to chain Jet in the office and let him only come out in order to sit next to Nick during Scuffed realtor streams to read superchats. This is all he's good for. Full MATI mode today sorry lads