What is your opinion on the Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict? - Keep the other thread focused on the hard facts

Amerimutts are hypocrites on the issue of annexing land.
People in general must learn consistency, and also people from the same political tribe must learn to perfect their ideology by criticizing the liars within.
Generally they avoid doing this because they fear loss of political power, but I disagree. An ideology based on truth and objective reality cannot lose, medium to long term.
 
>What is your opinion on the Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict?
I was banned from the other thread for posting this
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White flags do get the IOF mad as hell.
There's a better quality version.

I don't know why it was edited to look fake, the continuous shot one exists and you can see a bullet hitting the wall next to them in it.
 
Amerimutts are hypocrites on the issue of annexing land.

Russia does it, OY VEY
Israel does it, I LUV JEWS
lnsane how the pro palestine side is convinced israel will annex gaza or the west bank when no one in israel wants to do it outside of ben gvir. for people who "research" the topic it should be obvious how much of a disaster it would be but somehow nigger tier thinking wins over actual israeli polls and policy
 
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lnsane how the pro palestine side is convinced israel will annex gaza or the west bank when no one in israel wants to do it outside of ben gvir. for people who "research" the topic it should be obvious how much of a disaster it would be but somehow nigger tier thinking wins over actual israeli polls and policy
If you've read history, it's obvious that Israel has continually expanded its territory since its inception, including as recently as blumpf's admin.
It doesn't matter what a few libtards or moderates want in Israel. They can't even get rid of Bibi. What matters is what your elites want, and they are calculated and cynical, just like Russia. It makes sense to settle the West Bank and Gaza and slowly assimilate them, while doing your best to counter triggered yuropoors and westoids (like us here).
The machine moves forward. You will be saying "we don't want it" as Gaza is flattened and its population displaced, and as the IDF defends illegal settlements in the West Bank that miraculously keep on growing.
If Romania would try to displace the Hungarian minority in the middle of the country, I would be against that. But Israelis and Jews, basically 99% of you, have an autistic loyalty to tribe and country that's unprecedented, and it's what makes you different, and dangerous.
 
The machine moves forward. You will be saying "we don't want it" as Gaza is flattened and its population displaced

More than half of Israelis oppose annexing the Gaza Strip and reestablishing settlements uprooted during Israel’s 2005 Disengagement, according to a poll from the Hebrew University published Sunday.

According to the survey of over 1,800 people, which was conducted on December 7-9, 56 percent of Israelis opposed such a policy in the long term, as opposed to only 33% in favor and 11% who were uncertain.

The war council doesnt want it either.

as the IDF defends illegal settlements in the West Bank that miraculously keep on growing.
they evacuate and destroy the outposts often, pay attention to the news.

. It makes sense to settle the West Bank and Gaza and slowly assimilate them, while doing your best to counter triggered yuropoors and westoids (like us here).
>israels grand plan is to assimilate Gaza and the West Bank with settlements
>by withdrawing from gaza and evacuating all settlements in gaza
>while putting yourself in demographic crisis by absorbing 5-7 million people who are actively hostile to you and out breed Jews

genius

If you've read history, it's obvious that Israel has continually expanded its territory since its inception
in defensive wars yeah. 48 was defensive, 67 was defensive, and israel gladly gave the Sinai back to egypt when they agreed to make peace (rip sadat). Netanyahu was ready to negotiate with Syria on the ownership of the Golan right before the Syrian civil war started.



NL: How close do you believe we got to reaching peace between Syria and Israel?

FCH: Although I believe a genuine opportunity was missed, it’s impossible to say. Bashar had explicitly acknowledged that peace with Israel would have two essential elements: Syria’s strategic reorientation away from Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas; and Syria’s full recovery of all land lost to Israel in June 1967. Netanyahu acknowledged the territorial price Israel would have to pay and had authorized his team to work with me to define exactly the line of June 4, 1967. Both sides protected the confidentiality of the effort, and both sides gave every indication of seriousness.
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Israel would have had to return to Syrian sovereignty, over time — perhaps three to five years — all territory it took from Syria during the 1967 June War. Syria would have had to liquidate all threats to the security of Israel arising from its territory and from its relationships with Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas. Both sides were fully aware of what was required. Neither side tried to redefine or scale back its side of the commitment ledger. Netanyahu was acutely aware of the risks inherent in returning territory to Syria. He knew he would pay a domestic political price and planned to submit any agreement with Syria to a referendum. He wanted Syria’s strategic reorientation to be genuine and measured carefully during Israel’s phased withdrawal. He wanted strong U.S. support, including a large military assistance package. Bashar downplayed the risks inherent in breaking militarily with Iran and requiring Lebanon to make peace with Israel, a step that would have ended Hezbollah’s armed status as the “Lebanese Resistance.

Israel is perfectly willing to give up land for peace, did it twice and was ready to do it a third time. thinking israel is expansionist is actually retarded.
 
>while putting yourself in demographic crisis by absorbing 5-7 million people who are actively hostile to you and out breed Jews
They will be displaced. Obviously. it would happen today if Israel would find ways to bribe the Arab countries. There's no danger of outbreeding anything.
thinking israel is expansionist is actually retarded.
It's not really an imperial expansion. More like "achieve destiny" theological expansion, within limited space.
 
it would happen today if Israel would find ways to bribe the Arab countries.
After the Palestinians causing a civil war in Jordan, then running away to Lebanon and starting another civil war there, then moving to kuwait and helping Saddam invade, I doubt any Arab country wants them. There's a reason why they can't get citizenship anywhere.

It's not really an imperial expansion. More like "achieve destiny" theological expansion, within limited space.
In that case annexing Gaza doesn't matter, it was never part of the Kingdom of Israel or Judea. West Bank and parts of Lebanon/Syria are far more important for religious jews.
 
In that case annexing Gaza doesn't matter, it was never part of the Kingdom of Israel or Judea. West Bank and parts of Lebanon/Syria are far more important for religious jews.
Not entirely accurate.
Solomon, aka your best imperial ruler, had that area under control.
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Even without the historical context, it would be insane to tolerate forever an enclave of unruly, terroristic Arabs so close to your cities.
It would be pragmatic politics to try and fix this situation for good. As I said, the same way Russia wants to fix the ethnonationalist sentiments (i.e. "the Nazis") in Ukraine for good.
 
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Solomon, aka your best imperial ruler, had that area under control.
Not annexed though. Philistines still had local autonomy, they were required to be peaceful and send tributes.


, it would be insane to tolerate forever an enclave of unruly, terroristic Arabs so close to your cities.
Honestly west Bank is the real problem here if you want to discuss that. That's why Israel was trying to pay off hamas until Oct 7th, because Gaza is not as important as the west Bank in regards to israels central cities and before the massacre Israel was more concerned about keeping the west Bank stable than Gaza. Theres also the factor that Gaza is made up of refugees while the West Bank Palestinians are more rooted to the land due to Jordanian annexation and property ownership.
 
Honestly west Bank is the real problem here if you want to discuss that
Now that Gaza is flattened, yes.
Let's just give it time see what your leadership does. Otherwise we'll just wildly speculate.
I can tell you that if I were an Israeli Jew, I would most definitely plan to take over these areas, slowly to not trigger westoids too hard. I have nukes so basically the consequences cannot be TOO harsh if I fail, so worth risking a bit. Plus I have the golem, and most of the civilized world is on my side.
 
Not annexed though. Philistines still had local autonomy, they were required to be peaceful and send tributes.



Honestly west Bank is the real problem here if you want to discuss that. That's why Israel was trying to pay off hamas until Oct 7th, because Gaza is not as important as the west Bank in regards to israels central cities and before the massacre Israel was more concerned about keeping the west Bank stable than Gaza. Theres also the factor that Gaza is made up of refugees while the West Bank Palestinians are more rooted to the land due to Jordanian annexation and property ownership.
West Bank is sectored off into little pieces. Israel should ramp up their settlement plans and completely stave off Arabs from working in Israel proper, so that they stop breeding with the money taken from Israel. Force them out little by little.

Instead, they should replace them with foreign workers from southeast Asia. Lots of labour.
 
West Bank is sectored off into little pieces. Israel should ramp up their settlement plans and completely stave off Arabs from working in Israel proper, so that they stop breeding with the money taken from Israel. Force them out little by little.

Instead, they should replace them with foreign workers from southeast Asia. Lots of labour.
Already happening. All Palestinian workers are now banned from entering Israel and Israel is replacing their labor with Indian workers.
 
Already happening. All Palestinian workers are now banned from entering Israel and Israel is replacing their labor with Indian workers.
The problem with Gaza was sheer mathematical advantages that Arabs had in the area. There was no way in hell Israel could hold Gaza like they could can hold West Bank. It was a security nightmare which would have dwarfed into an international PR nightmare if they didn't pull out on 2005.

Now that they have flattened Gaza into little pieces, they can begin their work and displace Arabs little by little.

Jews playing the long game while Gazans playing out their martyr cult lifestyle.
 
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