What do women see in men?

Insulting her for fun ( A woman is not one of your guy friends. And in general, she's not going to appreciate being insulted as a form of comradre)

It's true, I never got a second date after calling a girl a fat retard with a floppy gunt.

“Pick a good man, a worthy man” the moids say. “A man willing to provide”. Then you say you picked according to those criteria and you are ‘a psychopath’.

”Women don’t make rational choices about men, women should make rational choices about men,” well, that’s what a rational choice about men looks like.

You chose a man on purely mercenary terms, don't seem to have ever considered anything beyond that, and now you're so miserable that you've given up on trying to make it work and are counting down the days to divorce, which is by the way totally incompatible with the Catholic marriage you insisted on. That's not rational, it's fucking stupid. You hurt yourself, your husband, your kids so that they could go to soccer practice. And, of course, you are placing the blame wholly on your husband, and getting various simps on this site to feel sorry for you, despite all but outright saying that you've never treated him like a person who had any value beyond his paycheck. Psychopathy - which is what treating other human beings as nothing more than means to your own personal ends is - isn't actually rational.
 
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It seems like most women here actually do think that
It's because a lot of them aren't engaging with an argument they don't think they can change.

"What do women find attractive in a man?" is a broad question. Articles written by women, post written by women, novels about love written by women, talking to a woman, all have varying answers. One person loves the human thumb type, one person loves the whispery Oscar Wilde look alike, one person loves the normal slightly pudgy man genuinely (because they think he's cute and squishy without being too squishy). A huge swath of teen girls love Kpop stars, others love "tumblr sexymen" (if you can figure out why people want to fuck sans the skeleton or Bill Cypher you can win), others just like normal dudes their age. You can look at how fetishistic FtMs present themselves or what type of men they draw that they like to jerk off to. Yes, this includes fatass males, I shit you not.


"I only believe in look based attraction." Well, we can't say much since as I detailed above, each woman has a grouping of likes. Much like how some men want a small latina, a towering Scandinavian goddess, or a demure soft woman that is just the right size compared to theirs, women want many things. Hell, we can't even settle on personality traits.

There's whole magazines and forums and Facebook groups occupied by normal female women who all want something that varies between "hopefully someone who gets me" and "hopefully the richest sexiest man on earth" and you can read about them there. But you decided to come to BP, where women are like other kiwis farmers where they can be normal for kiwis, kiwis who like fucking with people, or batshit. I understand you like coming to the farms for answers, but maybe we are not the best population to pull from? Maybe the area where the men haters like to hang out isn't as easy to poll as say "Offtopic general" where the invitation of "What physical traits do you find attractive in a partner" might invite both men and women who like men enough to be around them and talk with them might be better, even though Kiwi is still niche?

The secret is that a lot of women on kiwi farms don't care to engage in something where if they say something, they're worried that they'll be dismissed entirely. It's the same reason most men don't enter the "man hate thread": why engage with a population who probably made up their mind and even the most honest answer would be made fun of? Thus you get genuine autistics, genuine mercenaries, and genuine trolls, with a few genuine normal responses.
 
And THIS is what the kind of response you should expect from a site that is dedicated to laughing at people on the internet for their poor choices/eccentricities and shitposting about it. This is a response either gender would give too!

This is a site patrolled by trannies looking to bully us, populated by shitposters, a sub population of bitter contrarians and troll shieleders who don't have a halal thread by virtue of not having all their online footprint found alone, and the site is know for being honest about others but not about ourselves because the site is not our personal blog and people are looking to dox us. What quality did you expect, OP? I don't mean to be hostile, I only mean to outline what situation you put yourself in.

While I got some exciting relationships with women I will never trade my hubby for my dream lady.
He's smart and chubby and fun and he love me and I will love him till the Big End:heart-full:

But to answer the question it depend from each woman. I like them smart but still like fart jokes and I find watching men fixing shits to be AUGH YEAH
I know more women that think fart jokes are funny than not but I hang with more tomboyish women. I hope you get the sweet dude who's looking for a gorl like you fren.
 
@AMHOLIO you forgot to advise the farmers here to avoid or at least have caution with josei/japanese crap, at least 5 individuals turned misogynistic after reading them.

As a example, one visual novel a route with a very girly-looking dude with a voice that sounds like a troon, but (just like real life?) ends up being a sex pest and horrorcow that gaslighted and abused her, yet even with such batshit insanity she could not stop fawning over how beautiful he was.
 
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And THIS is what the kind of response you should expect from a site that is dedicated to laughing at people on the internet for their poor choices/eccentricities and shitposting about it. This is a response either gender would give too!
Im just kidding, your post was really good and unfortunately a million new generations won't understand that the opposite sex is interesting and mysterious but also human.
 
Handsome face first, then the hair and physique. Then the personality, charming and confident. They want you to have interests but not be autistically fixated on them, they want to know what other men think about hou, do they respect you? They want you to give them something to do they want to grow and learn new things and they want you to introduce them to those things in a real way. They want to be loved, they want something real in our fake and vapid, unrelenting spiraling times.

And they want to love you too, geeky anon kiwi.

Etc.

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Im just kidding, your post was really good and unfortunately a million new generations won't understand that the opposite sex is interesting and mysterious but also human.
Oh, I know, that's why I chose to highlight it. :biggrin: The old standby joke is "Talking to real people? Talking to women/men? Going outside? Lmao", in a good way. Kiwis are self depreciating.
 
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But to answer the question it depend from each woman. I like them smart but still like fart jokes and I find watching men fixing shits to be AUGH YEAH

I've heard more than one women say that watching men fix stuff is hot. Sometimes my wife has me fix stuff I know she can take care of. I ask her why she doesn't do it herself, and she says, "Because I like watching you do it." Am I just being used for my body?
 
I will sum up this to simple women are loyal to their kids never forget that. This is why many modern men avoid children they know what will happen to them. All the affection and love goes to kids the minute they pop out of the cooch and they get crumbs . Its seems most men don't get that simple evolutionary thing wired in our brains.
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You chose a man on purely mercenary terms, don't seem to have ever considered anything beyond that, and now you're so miserable that you've given up on trying to make it work and are counting down the days to divorce, which is by the way totally incompatible with the Catholic marriage you insisted on.
Same for me but I dont count down the days , the reality is she was a hot chick and like any hot chick the first 25 years of their life is literally life on very easy mode which means she hasnt learned shit how much men are trash and how much will abuse you without touching her secondly she can literaly tommorow get his ass in line but she is too pussy for it and doesnt realise she is fucking up her kids also lol at 4 degrees how fucking stupid have to be to have spent a decade in academia and still make dogshit money but again stacy life on easy mode .

i have read the saga her biggest mistake is her choosing a doctor firstly doctor collects midwits and people doing purely for the social standing , arrogant bints , smart men dont wast 10+ year on rote memorization to pass an exam and get a liscence that can be easily taken away by some paperpusher and thus all of your efforts with it, smart men always go for trades or 4 year bachelors tops and they rarely go for coveted shit like doctors and lawyers its saturated market, that gives them wages similar that of a competent electrician that is in demand, if its for the money making she would have gone for a tradie how runs his own shit but hey again hot chick gotten shit on easy mode and looks for social standing and what not. Secondly not reading the flags properly . Man who has fucked up fetishes never stays with just on wanking and the minute he gets some control over her finances every single man will use it to make sure he gets his dick wet the way he wants second he had issues with various things and threw tantrums over bs . He is one bad day away from losing liscence or gettin into civil suit where he has to shell out all the families savings . If i was her I would run with half of his shit plus whatever damages my lawyer could pile on for the abuse he heaped on her, but again she is stuck so far up her ass she doesnt understand that her kids are watching and learning all this is ok because there is always an idiot who will put up with it nor that a her whole future and her children's future laying in the hands of very unstable manchild who can blow it all up because he had a bad day. Not to mention if he starts abusing the kids behind her back ,

She should have a talk with my mom how it fucked me up and my brother but again pussy . I honestly think this woman enjoys her misery .
 
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I have four fucking degrees including a Ph.D, I have plenty of fucking education but sadly this limp faggot will always have the power to massively outearn me because doctors make lulzy money here even if they are bad at it.. The kids have nil respect for him but they have much better role modelling elsewhere in the family.
Ah I see, The lazy and inept med school graduate who actively does good in service of his profession is the problem. Allow me to remind you of some advice which you clearly seem to have failed to grasp since joining this site. The chief attribute of a Lolcow is an inability to learn from the consequences of their mistakes, instead blaming others for them. You are unhappy for the personal consequences of chasing money above all else, and instead of taking responsibility for that and giving it up, you blame the man who works to provide it. You are the architect of both your, your children's, and your husband's suffering, and if you do not accept that and try to fix it, you and you alone are the problem.
 
Yes. And we both know you like it :tomgirl:

Edit for serious: I suppose it's something kind of reassuring that your partner is a competent adult, but I don't know how it transform into hot stuff tho. Brain is weird.
It feels nice that when you ask someone to do something, they like and respect you enough to do it for you. Like I can wash dishes, but it's so nice if I asked someone else and they did it because they understood it would help me. Men can feel similar gratitude when they ask if someone can do something for them because they don't have the time. They rather do it themselves, but it's good knowing someone does stuff.

Otherwise it's fun watching people fix things IMO. @The Ugly One I'm sorry friend you're being objectified. Take to the streets for your rights, those damn dirty minded chicks can't keep getting away with watching your arms flex, your sure footed stabilization that sparks confidence, your butt poking out, your brain work determinedly on problem solving, and your fingers expertly maneuver around!
 
Nah, no worries, turns out he liked the idea of kids but is too weak to be much of a dad for whining about everything all the time for attention like a faggot. So they don't like him. I expected him to be a decent dad but he is like a deeply unpleasant teenager, so obviously now I have lost any respect for him and think he is a faggot too. But I have to put a face on it. Honestly he behaves like a drunken woman or an internet tranny, it is shameful. You can't seriously tell a five year old that you "need their emotional support" as an adult male. That's weak AF.

I have tried to give them a positive impression of him, but that can't be overcome when they see him slumped with his hand down his trousers doomscrolling every evening and whining that his boss is mean and his feelings are sore, instead of spending time with them like they ask. They love my dad though, so he does all the dad shit like teach them to ride their bikes etc. Never mind, like my dad says, it's not forever.
But you have said you married him because you wanted children with certain qualities who would get the material life and opportunities you wanted any kids of yours to have. Why would you expect more from him than that? Maybe he married you to have a pretty, "trad" wife and pretty kids. It almost sounds as if you expected him to be more purely intentioned/sincere or less transactional than you were. He would not be the first weak man who didn't dig deep or have strong ideals that he intended to carry out about being a quality, devoted father.
I will sum up this to simple women are loyal to their kids never forget that. This is why many modern men avoid children they know what will happen to them. All the affection and love goes to kids the minute they pop out of the cooch and they get crumbs .

Its seems most men don't get that simple evolutionary thing wired in our brains.
Being loyal to kids does not 1:1 translate into "all the affection and love" completely redirecting away from the father. In a healthy situation, it doesn't, and in a healthy situation it's not a matter of either/or. But even when the original intention was true, if the father turns out to be a selfish twit or forces a choice, fuck yeah kids win.
 
Snuggling up to them feels so safe. Their big chests and shoulders are so nice to lay your head on and against.
Their balls and fun bits are fun to squish and feel. Then when it gets hard.... I could write pages about how nice sex with men is.
They are so cute and do plenty of cute things if you pay attention. Men are cute and funny! When they are shy, when they are vulnerable, when they are competitive, when they have some idiosyncrasies that are amusing.
I don't care if you're a woman, this is the gayest shit I've ever seen.
 
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