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Yup. Compact Macs make great word processors after you figure out how to get a file from them to a modern computer when it comes time to format the text.
Tech you miss/ new tech trends you hate - ok boomers
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Appletalk should be enough for anyone. Of course even with TCP/IP something that old will have trouble with any modern protocol. Maybe serial/SLIP/PPP to a Raspberry Pi or similar running plain old FTP to a NAS.
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Every single thing that can speak TCP/IP usually has some kind of FTP client in it's software library. Sure it doesn't have the twenty layers of encryption everything seems to need nowadays but for shoving a few files somewhere/getting a few files via LAN it's fine. The 32-bit 68k Macs I'd count to the "fairly advanced" machines in that regard. My small 040 Performa even has a network card with RJ45 and if you have FTP, you usually also have some kind of telnet software. Biggest problems with hooking machines of that vintage up to modern networks is usually they often don't play nice with DHCP, but just give them a static IP I guess. Or just use some serial terminal software and connect directly via a serial-to-usb dongle, usually works fine, can use a shell on a linux system and also transfer files via zmodem or whatever. There's also some software around that can pretend to be an Hayes AT compatible modem via serial port. Playing modem could be a good job for a Pi Zero I guess. Lots of ways to hook such a system up. It's very popular in retro circles to use Pis in various ways. (I personally was never a big fan of it, even if it makes a lot of practical sense. Just feels weird to use a, in comparison, super computer as some auxiliary to what basically is an abacus these days) It's even power-bill wise ok as many of these old systems are fairly low power. It's when you cross over in the mid-to-late 90s and start to need active cooling and have 3D accelerators where you encounter the guzzlers that idle at 100W. (Exception here often are industrial PCs and first thin clients, especially with chips like the MediaGX or a bit later, Transmeta)
My Thinkpad tablet comes very close to such a minimalist system that's low power and rather distraction free, I still feel I'd like something more stylish, modern and modifiable and better. (as in more robust and free to modify/repair, not necessarily faster) I'm sadly not demented enough yet to strap a Rasperry Pi 4 to some old luggage and call it my "cyberdeck".
My Thinkpad tablet comes very close to such a minimalist system that's low power and rather distraction free, I still feel I'd like something more stylish, modern and modifiable and better. (as in more robust and free to modify/repair, not necessarily faster) I'm sadly not demented enough yet to strap a Rasperry Pi 4 to some old luggage and call it my "cyberdeck".
Brabbit Narp
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I am not religious in the least, but when I see posts like this,
I hate the fucking Anti Christ.
For those curious as to where this particular comment came from, Logically Answered uploaded this video not too long ago.
And it was not the only one. It only took a few seconds of scrolling the top comments to find such gems like that.
It's one thing to not want to use a computer by choice. Fine by me, no skin off my back.
But when you are actively advocating for people to ditch one of the most versatile and powerful devices available to us to be soul sucked into a device that is at best a compromise of what a PC can do in favor of whatever the hell smartphones are these days...
I can't say I am too surprised, but to see it so blatantly put to post in such a manner was a shock to my system.
To be fair, it seems there is a decent amount of pushback on such users, but if this is to be the future of what we should expect the online net experience to be, I can only imagine a time where it'll be a strictly mobile only experience, requiring the usage of apps and what not to get on to use a service like YouTube.
Worst part is, I could totally see such see such a scheme succeeding. The only question is why places like YouTube and what not have not forced their desktop users into only accessing the site via a mobilesque like interface/app in order to get in. (That is to say, beyond the abomination that is the YouTube made for mobile first design it is right now.) It'd be right up their alley, and it would solve the adblock problem for the former at the very least.
I hate the fucking Anti Christ.
For those curious as to where this particular comment came from, Logically Answered uploaded this video not too long ago.
And it was not the only one. It only took a few seconds of scrolling the top comments to find such gems like that.
It's one thing to not want to use a computer by choice. Fine by me, no skin off my back.
But when you are actively advocating for people to ditch one of the most versatile and powerful devices available to us to be soul sucked into a device that is at best a compromise of what a PC can do in favor of whatever the hell smartphones are these days...
I can't say I am too surprised, but to see it so blatantly put to post in such a manner was a shock to my system.
To be fair, it seems there is a decent amount of pushback on such users, but if this is to be the future of what we should expect the online net experience to be, I can only imagine a time where it'll be a strictly mobile only experience, requiring the usage of apps and what not to get on to use a service like YouTube.
Worst part is, I could totally see such see such a scheme succeeding. The only question is why places like YouTube and what not have not forced their desktop users into only accessing the site via a mobilesque like interface/app in order to get in. (That is to say, beyond the abomination that is the YouTube made for mobile first design it is right now.) It'd be right up their alley, and it would solve the adblock problem for the former at the very least.
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people could just use the front end loaders for youtube right now, they havent clamped down on them like twitter did
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You guys are taking a totally different approach than I am, lol. As soon as someone starts talking networking stuff, my eyes glaze over, so I just use a microSD as my primary storage on the old Macs, and pop it into a modern machine, then extract the file through Basilisk.
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If you're going to do it that way you may as well just get a floppy drive and a Greaseweazle/FluxEngine and do it properly.
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I trust a blueSCSI way more than a floppy drive.
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Trust? It's not about trust. It's about REALISM. Never knowing if it will eat your last 6 hours of work. Having to have multiple copies on different disks.
Geez, kids these days.
Lone Wandering Courier
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I'm just going to say it, but being anti-computer is pretty fucking retarded when smartphones just simply aren't up to the task of even the most basic of shit. Okay sure you can technically browse the internet, but it's literally torture to do so even with a mobile browser that supports ublock origin. A phone simply does not replace a PC period and anybody insisting otherwise is literally retarded or malicious.
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I get enough realism when I see that stupid bomb show up. Or when I have to tear the Mac apart and fix it, lol. I ain't playing with my writing.
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Browse?
No one browses the Internet any more.
It's all apps, if it doesn't have an app then the unwashed masses are all too stupid to open a browser and type in "kiwifarms.net"
There's even websites that have simply gone "screw it, apps only". And those lazy fucks who use an actual computer are just hosed.
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I had no idea front end loaders could be used to view YouTube. Will any front end loader work, or only specific models?
Would a CAT 980 be sufficient?
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thhat is inefficient for the bloated mass that is youtube, go bigger
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I may not like laptops (likely because of lack of upgradability and the piece of shit OS that comes prepackaged with it) but I will gladly pick a laptop, even the bulkiest gaming laptop, over apps and cellphones any other way. Fuck mobile users. They are the next niggercattle of tech.
Falcos_Commisar
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This.
I am actually close to getting a new laptop that'll be a gigantic upgrade for me. I look forward to using it regularly vs my phone for Internet browsing and so forth.
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A CAT S22 with Newpipe is sufficient, it is the best piece of CAT equipment to view YouTube.
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On the topic of tech people miss, I would rec the CAT phone for anyone who wants a modern (non folding screen) flip phone. Old ones are usually on borrowed time given 2G and 3G being decommissioned, and while there exist modern dumbphones still running things like KaiOS, I still need a few apps for messaging normal people who only use WhatsApp and a few banking apps. But otherwise, it works for doing just what you need and not more.
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Where I'm at, 2G and 3G are already turned off.
I have noticed the expected surge in boomers with smartphones.