War ‘Unthinkable’ as world marches towards World War Three

The world as we know it is about to end. Global strategists and think tanks are scrambling to raise the alarm. It may be World War III. It may be a perpetual, deliberate Great Financial Crisis. Whatever it is, we’re in for a shock. And we must prepare.

Former US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has thrown a cat among the pigeons with a warning published in the international geopolitics journal Foreign Affairs.

“Great catastrophes often seem unthinkable until they happen,” he warns. “As the strategic environment deteriorates, it’s time to recognise how eminently thinkable global conflict has become.

“If war does engulf multiple theatres of Eurasia, Washington and its allies might not win.”

A march to war?

Gates is not alone in pointing to the sudden explosion of conflict – be it military, economic or diplomatic – across the globe.

Russia shocked the world with its invasion of Ukraine.

The murderous Hamas terror attack on Israel on October 7 last year – and Israel’s brutal response – up-ended what had appeared to be a slow crawl towards peace.

Attacks by Iranian puppets across the Middle East with surprisingly effective – but cheap and simple – drones have rattled confidence in the West’s hi-tech (limited and ultra-expensive) arsenal.

North Korea has abruptly ended peace talks with the South while ramping up test firings of its vast new suite of missiles – some of which can carry nuclear warheads to the United States.

And China continues to coerce and threaten India, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam at just one notch beneath open conflict.

And among it all, the fragile web of trade that sustains the global economy – especially the supply of silicon chips and rare but crucial minerals – has begun to fragment.

“We are at the dawn of a new era,” Dutch Admiral Rob Bauer said during a January NATO conference, “moving from a post-war world to a pre-war world”.

So, are we headed for World War III?

“The answer is not certain,” says Professor Andrew Dorman of British strategic think-tank Chatham House. “On the one hand, the sheer cost of war and the risks of inevitable destruction for both sides appear to be getting higher … (On the other), the likes of North Korea and Iran cannot be trusted to act rationally.”

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Those who forget their history …

“If many … don’t realise how close the world is to being ravaged by fierce, interlocking conflicts, perhaps that’s because they’ve forgotten how the last global war came about,” notes Gates.

Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan only formed their axis of convenience once the rest of the world began to push back against their regional conflicts.

They had little in common. Each regime was autocratic. Each used coercion and violence to get what it wanted. Each wanted a prominent place on the world stage.

“Whatever their specific — and sometimes conflicting — aims, the fascist powers had a more fundamental similarity of purpose,” Gates adds. “All were seeking a dramatically transformed global order, in which “have not” powers carved out vast empires through brutal tactics — and in which brutal regimes surpassed the decadent democracies they despised.”

In the 1930s, the global economy was well on the road towards interdependence. This meant conflict in one region “exacerbated instability in another”, Gates adds.

“By humiliating the League of Nations and showing that aggression could pay, Italy’s assault on Ethiopia in 1935 paved the way for Hitler’s remilitarisation of the Rhineland in 1936. Germany then paid it forward in 1940 by crushing France, putting the United Kingdom on the brink, and creating a golden opportunity for Japanese expansion into Southeast Asia.”

… are condemned to repeat it

The United Nations has been humiliated by Palestine’s terror attacks, and Israel’s military occupation of the West Bank and invasion of Gaza. Then there’s China riding roughshod over international law with its occupation of islands in the South China Sea.

Now Russia appears on the brink of showing aggression can pay, with the US moving to abandon supporting Ukraine in its fight for survival.

“The tectonic plates of power are shifting,” Admiral Bauer warns. “And as a result: We face the most dangerous world in decades.”

This tangle of intense, interrelated struggles would “overwhelm the rules-based (and US imposed) international order that has maintained an unprecedented – but uneasy – period of relative peace since 1945.

“We also face three perilous regional challenges and autocratic powers who are growing dangerously close to each other, also unified mostly by their determination to blow up the status quo,” says Atlantic Council President Frederick Kempe.

“China wants to replace the United States as the leading global power and push it out of the western Pacific; meanwhile, Russia wants to retake territory and influence lost with Soviet collapse … In the Middle East, Iran and its proxies are bent on the annihilation of Israel and are struggling for regional dominance.”

And Russia, China, North Korea and Iran have set aside their differences – for now – to link their economies and exchange technologies, training, and weapons in a bid to confront their common enemy.

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Global warning

“With wars in eastern Europe and the Middle East already raging, and ties between revisionist states becoming more pronounced, all it would take is a clash in the contested western Pacific to bring about another awful scenario,” Gates warns.

The US, Britain, France, Russia, China, Israel, Pakistan, India and North Korea each have nuclear arsenals. Iran may be on the brink.

And the consequences of a nuclear conflict are unthinkable.

“Thinking through the nightmare scenario is still worthwhile since the world could be as little as one mishandled crisis away from pervasive Eurasian conflict — and because the United States is so unprepared for this eventuality,” warns Gates.

Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor woke a sleeping giant. Washington quickly became an “arsenal for democracy,” sweeping aside Rome, Berlin and Tokyo.

‘Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars’

“The harsh reality is that the defence industrial base that won World War II and then the Cold War no longer exists,” says Gates. “Shortages and bottlenecks are pervasive … Many allies have even weaker defence industrial bases.”

And no modern product – from processed food to F-35s – doesn’t rely on components and materials sourced from half a world away.

“(Conflict) would wrench global commerce in ways that make the dislocations provoked by the wars in Ukraine and Gaza look trivial,” says Gates.

The economic shock of even limited – but widespread – regional conflicts has Admiral Bauer worried.

“We need more societal resilience. More energy independence, resilient infrastructure,” he told the NATO gathering.

“We need public and private actors to change their mindset from an era in which everything was plannable, foreseeable, controllable, focused on efficiency … to an era in which anything can happen at any time … An era in which we need to expect the unexpected”.

Analysts say China will have sufficient strength to dismiss US deterrence (in conventional weapons) in the Western Pacific and Southeast Asia by the second half of this decade.

But most Western defence build-up programs won’t begin to deliver until the 2030s. In the case of Australia’s dream to build a nuclear-powered submarine fleet, that won’t likely be realised before the late 2050s – if everything goes perfectly to plan.

“If this new’ axis of evil’ framing is correct, then the ongoing promise of dangers today but new equipment tomorrow will leave (us) vulnerable,” warns Chatham House’s Professor Dorman.

Jamie Seidel is a freelance writer | @JamieSeidel

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Sensationalist headline with a lot of "what if" thinking involved. The truth of what will really happen is not as bad as you think or as good as what you hope it'll be, it will always be somewhere in the middle. Whether a third world war will break out soon is debatable; there are a lot of geopolitical factors involved here. Nobody on earth 100% knows the future.
 
Thing is though, no-one really wants to serve the current governments because there is nothing for them there. Back then, there was a country to fight for. Families you'd want to see out of harm's way. A way of life you're trying to preserve. But now, especially in the west, in fighting for that country, you are complictly agreeing that its a God given right to be a faggot, you're ok to have women who'd divorce you in a heartbeat, your jobs taken by illegals and foreigners, your money devalued and your future being literally living in a pod, eating bugs and owning nothing.

No-one wants to fight for such a system.

Sensationalist headline with a lot of "what if" thinking involved. The truth of what will really happen is not as bad as you think or as good as what you hope it'll be, it will always be somewhere in the middle. Whether a third world war will break out soon is debatable; there are a lot of geopolitical factors involved here. Nobody on earth 100% knows the future.
The thing about conflicts and upheavals in general are, they tend to stem from something mundane or unremarkable.

No-one expected WW1 to kick off when the archduke got shot. There is also the French Revolution which happened when the bread prices became too high.

At best, the assholes who are begging for a world war are gonna try keep making things shittier so something sparks conflict. And if its Nuclear... remember that the elites built their bunkers in New Zealand and Antartica. They're bound to be loaded up with supplies.
 
No-one expected WW1 to kick off when the archduke got shot.
thats the thing with the world war. its not necessarily one thing sparking it. Its multiple conflict going off at once. Once someone has grievance and makes good on it, so does their neighbor decide its time to act on their grievances as well. Ukr vs Rus, Israel vs the middle east. If the US gets brough into a conflict with houties and Iran im sure some other fucking retard country somewhere will also decide its time for some total retard war. All thats missing is some war in the asian theater for shit to really kick off.
 
If the US gets brough into a conflict with houties and Iran im sure some other fucking retard country somewhere will also decide its time for some total retard war. All thats missing is some war in the asian theater for shit to really kick off.
I can think of a few spots where there's always shooting. The Muzzies trying to expand their holds and control over the islands as well as China trying to force their way into controlling smaller islands. Taiwan and Spratly Islands come to mind.

Though with the US getting dragged into conflict will be something as they're still having huge recruiting issues because they are learning albiet too late that no-one wants to fight for Globohomo.

If they institute a draft, the US may just collapse into Civil War as all bets are off. The only way I can see them going forward is to make sure Trump wins and then institute a draft. But if that also leads to Civil War... well, at least we know our elites are retarded.
 
If they institute a draft, the US may just collapse into Civil War as all bets are off. The only way I can see them going forward is to make sure Trump wins and then institute a draft. But if that also leads to Civil War... well, at least we know our elites are retarded.
Start a draft in November after a Trump win? That gives me some pause since it would require to get a troop 6-9 months of training to be combat ready. Wouldn't Trump just call it off after he's sworn in? Plus, the House and the President are the ones who have to authorize a draft, and given the current makeup of the House, its speaker doesn't want to send aid to Ukraine, for example. I personally have my doubts they'll want to start it in the last five months of the year if they're gonna do it.
 
No, just don't see it.

Let's look, briefly, at the powers at the start of WWI. Germany, France, Britain, Austro-Hungary and Russia all had substantial military establishments and actively mobilized after Sarajevo. Everyone was pretty fresh, if you will.

Look at the start of WWII. Germany had rearmed and their economy was doing very well at the time due to that rearmament. Austria was now part of Germany. France also had a substantial military. The British had been rearming, too, not as much as Germany but the Royal Navy was in good shape. The USSR had a large military, with a lot of obsolete equipment and a leadership that had been severely reduced due to the Purges.

Let's look at today. Russia is a shadow of the old USSR, in largely a conventional stalemate against Ukraine. Suggest the Russian nuclear forces have been maintained about as well as the conventional forces; if you don't think the weapons will ever be used, mighty tempting to skim off cash meant for repairs and maintenance. Russia cannot even defend their own borders against increasingly more numerous and effective drone attacks even further into Russia proper.

Doubt Iran can do much more militarily than they are presently doing, and they have a very large target of their own, called Kharg Island, terminal for all oil shipments going out from the south. They rely on proxies to do much of their fighting. Plausible deniability, minimal cost. Iranian Army has plenty to do keeping an eye on their own people, not everyone there is a happy camper.

North Korea knows if they start a war they are through. Kim wants to be recognized as a big boy on the world stage. Absent the nukes, North Korea is an Asian Albania. Kim himself has publicly admitted how bad the North Korean economy actually is.

China has problems we should be glad not to have. The military is manned by sons of one-child families. These sons are expected to be their parents' primary support in their old age. China has no national-level social security system. Tells me the Chinese military is very casualty-averse. China has no combat experience more recent than 1979. China depends on the US Navy to keep the sealanes clear for all their many, many imports and exports. The Chinese Navy has few vessels that can go more than 1000 miles from home. And from what I have seen the levels of corruption at least equal Russia's. When you fill a liquid-fueled missile's tanks with water you can never use it. If you are using solid rocket fuel for cooking, the rocket it's taken from cannot be used. Many stories about officers buying their promotions so they can get that graft. The Chinese economy is hurting, seeing the housing and credit bubbles starting to burst, unemployment up.

We have our problems, as well, We relied on the 'peace dividend' after the Cold War too much and for too long. However, the level of corruption and graft is minuscule compared to Russia or China. People don't want to join the military; that can be largely fixed by eliminating 'wokeness' in the service. Industrial base not what it used to be, but have seen some improvement.

My predictions...Ukraine/Russia war grinds on for more years unless the Putin regime collapses or a civil war. The hostilities in the Middle East stay relatively localized. Houthis likely to get tired of doing Iran's dirty work once they've been carpetbombed enough. Korea stays much the same, a lot of saber-rattling, the occasional incident. China keeps talking big but suggest internal problems will hamstring them.

Nevertheless, folks, we certainly live in interesting times.

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I'd believe there was a chance of a real war if the US did strikes on Iran. But instead of fighting back against Iran when struck, the US decided to do strikes against forces in Syria, Yemen, and Iraq.

Still a world war is far fetched because these countries like Iran, China, and Russia are not going to band together to cover each others backs. If they were then they'd be doing so right now. China and Iran are not sending forces to back up Russia in their Ukraine invasion as they are not allies in anything but some loose economic sense where they try their best to take advantage of each other.

So there's really not the conditions necessary to have a world war.
 
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