Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[weirdwound]

He complains about having to dilate everyday. Even if his SRS went perfectly he still would have to do that. He was told this by Kamol and likely everywhere he did research.
Do these narc trannies go into these surgeries thinking it'll turn out so amazing they won't even have to do what the surgeon tells them. If they just believe enough it'll turn into a real pussy like some kind of Pinocchio magic?

Pretty sure a lot or most of them think dilation will be like masturbating multiple times a day. Porn sickness. Then when they feel how painful it is in their sticky nasty wound, they want to stop. Or they just do it wrong entirely and get a fistula.

 

[batteredpancakes]

u/SisuMan72, the TiF with the gracilis phalloplasty, has found out about people reposting her images.
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She's probably referencing twitter but someone did mention KF

This is the dude that cut his own dick off in a schizo episode as a teen. (A)

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(post)Found out that pictures I shared here is now found in elsewhere on internet. I wanted to share my experience and rare surgery method here you guys and I'm very disapointed that someone did that. How would you feel If I posted your genital pictures outside this group? It should be self-evident for all not to spread pictures elsewhere. If you wan't knowledge about things please be discreed to other FTM guys.

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(schizo dude) This is the exact reason I don't post pictures on this sub, despite knowing those pictures could really help other guys in my situation. I'm not even trans but I've been talked about on both kiwifarms and twitter just because I've had phallo. Heard horrible things about my body and state of mind. Truthfully I'm just not emotionally resilient enough to handle people picking about my body in that way. I have huge respect for anyone sharing pictures on here, y'all stronger than me.

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(op) I'm strong enough to handel it but still it's so stupid thing to do because everybody ain't. I have given promise to use my pictures to surgeons for educational purposes. I wish I have seen some pictures and read experienses 14 yrs ago.

 

[Kumquat]

Do these narc trannies go into these surgeries thinking it'll turn out so amazing they won't even have to do what the surgeon tells them. If they just believe enough it'll turn into a real pussy like some kind of Pinocchio magic?

Yes, they do, quite literally. The sheer delusion, magical thinking, and biological illiteracy of these people is one of the many reasons I despise them so much. They truly, genuinely believe that estrogen is like a magic potion that will transform them into a woman, or vice versa with testosterone. "DOUBLE, DOUBLE TOIL AND TROUBLE! TAKE THIS PILL TO REMOVE YOUR STUBBLE!" This is why these trannies will get cramps and then rush to Reddit asking "OMG AM I HAVING MY PERIOD!?" They actually believe they've found some kind of life hack and that hormones somehow trick the body into believing it's the opposite sex. I distinctly remember somewhere in this thread a tranny consoling another tranny over the rancid, feculent odor emanating from his stink ditch, and he said that the estrogen will trick his body into thinking it's a real vagina and will eventually cause the body to produce the fluids necessary to eliminate the odor.

These people are delusional beyond belief. They make the most primitive tribes living in the rainforests in Africa look like NASA scientists with how absolutely uneducated and superstitious they are. You may be inclined to think it's a joke. You may cling to your faith in humanity and think that they can't possibly be that stupid, but you would be wrong. They absolutely are.

 

[batteredpancakes]

u/sadhopelessthrowaway is a TiM that regrets getting a vaginoplasty and has recently got a consult for a phalloplasty. He still identifies as a she/her though.
He seemed very happy and optimistic running up to the appointment based on his previous posts, but today he's posted the aftermath and he's not happy.
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feeling discouraged after talking to surgeon​

for reference: vaginoplasty --> phallo
I finally got to speak with the surgeon that did my original surgery. He does phallo as well, so I wanted to get his opinions on what barriers could be in my way. I guess I knew it wasn't going to be easy, but it was tough to hear. This was just an initial talk and I'm going to speak to other surgeons as well, but yeah bit depressed I'd say. I asked quite a few questions, but these are the relevant ones to why I'm feeling down
Is it possible to do urethra lengthening after vaginoplasty?

• He said he may have ideas, but it would be high risk.

How will scrotoplasty be affected by my previous surgery?

• His said depending on the current scars, he's not sure if rotating them would reach and if the blood supply could be adequate.

What general difficulties do you anticipate doing phalloplasty after vaginoplasty? How would this affect your approach to the surgery?

• He said that he's not done this procedure before and doubted that many people around the country have. There would be no problem with the creation of the phalloplasty flap, but after that things get quite complicated. He specifically reiterated that UL and Scrotoplasty may not be possible. He ended off on a positive note that the vaginal could be closed and dilating provides no benefit for surgery, so I can stop (most people told me to continue in case there was any benefit)

I guess it's just whatever right? I'm not making any moves just yet and going to talk to other surgeons as well. He even said upfront he may not be the best equipped for it and if there's anyone with any prior experience it would be better. For all I know these fears won't ever come to pass and things will go just fine, but in the meantime I'm feeling a lil :<

TDLR: Surgeon says it's very risky and uncharted territory. He could do the phalloplasty but without UL or a scrotoplasty and tells him he can close up the amhole.

This dude has comments about anal so i'm guessing he's gay.
His SRS was around Sept 2022 so it's only been a year and a half.
Transitioned about 7 years ago.

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Spoiler: Before SRS post

After vaginoplasty - how long did it take for you to start feeling normal again?​

Sept 2022
Hi, I have vaginoplasty on Thursday with Dr Del Corral (PI specifically)
This is my 5th year dealing with transition and I feel like the mental fortitude I had to take on major transition events diminishes with each new milestone. I've been stealth for three years now, but I've dealt with electro and all the prep for vaginoplasty the last two years. I'm tired, I want my damn pussy, but I'm tired lol
I know this will be a long recovery process and I know what goes into it, but I'm looking for some positive vibes here. When did you start to get back to your normal routine?
I know that even though I'm tired, this is literally the last milestone. I'm really looking forward to getting on with my life already lol
Anyway I'm filled with anxiety so thanks in advance for any advice or stories shared

Spoiler: First post after SRS

Tomorrow I get to see my vagina!​

Sept 2022
I'm sure this sounds kind of silly, but I'm really trying to manage my expectations. I'm worried I'll have a hard time seeing past the early recovery look. I could be totally worried over nothing and accept where I'm at now just fine.
For anyone who also had vaginoplasty, how was it looking for the first time?

Spoiler: 2nd post after SRS

I really underestimated how much surgery (vaginoplasty) would help​

Oct 2022
It's like I was so used to being upset and uncomfortable all the time, that I had completely forgotten what it was like to be at peace with my body.
In the hospital, I found myself communicating with people better than I usually do. Without that constant worry of things not being right clouding every thought, I could express myself better and I could allow myself to actually be present throughout the day.
I made a post recently saying I was worried about seeing my vagina for the first time. I was so concerned I'd see it in this early healing state and be upset. When I finally saw it I was surprised that I actually liked it and it wasn't all that messy tbh. Then I accidentally touched part of my labia majora when I just meant to point to it (mirrors are hard lol) and my brain finally pieced together that this vagina is mine and I wept haha.
Anyway, I've been home getting close to a week now. I feel good. Surgery was scary at first, but if I needed a revision in the future I'm now totally fine with it. So many things about setting up surgery were depressing, dysphoria inducing, and frustrating, but I'd do it all over again tomorrow if it meant feeling this relief that I do now

Spoiler: Third post - regret sets in

Regretting vaginoplasty - is it possible to then get phalloplasy?​

March 2023
I understand this is probably a highly unusual thing to post and I don't really wanna get into where my head is at on this.
I just want to know if this is something that anyone has heard of someone doing or had personal experience with. Thank you.

Spoiler: Definitely wants it reversed

It's going to be such a long road to reversing vaginoplasty and it makes me so depressed​

April 2023
edit - y'all are horrible lol, I'm fucking struggling and getting downvoted to hell because no one wants to hear that 1 fucking trans girl regrets vaginoplasty. obviously the majority of people don't regret it and that's fine, but damn I'm really going through it

Maybe 3 weeks ago I posted asking about the possibility of undoing things. I've thought about getting phallo every day since then and I've decided it's my goal to see this through. My therapist has basically said she doesn't even think she can write another letter for me, so that's something I'll have to deal with at some point. It's going to be a lot to work through and having a vagina is causing me so much distress and dysphoria
It's very frustrating because even just making a post like this makes me worry people will use it the wrong way. I'm not planning on making anymore posts like this here, but today I really just need to say I'm depressed at how difficult this will be
Please don't give me any platitudes about post surgery depression or anything. I know what I'm feeling and it's genuine dysphoria. I wish so badly I could undo what I did :/

He starts posting to r/phallo now

Spoiler: Struggling to find resources

Any resources or personal experiences for phallo after vaginoplasty?
Oct 2023
I'm really not finding much on the subject and I'm trying to educate myself as much as possible before my consult with my original surgeon. It's not for a few months, but I want to be prepared and make sure I'm asking all of the right questions. I read through the wiki here and I didn't see anything. I'm not detransitioning, so I'm finding it hard to find any space to talk about this and it's been really isolating. A post I made in another sub didn't go over so well, so I've been hesitant to make another since then.

Spoiler: consults await

I finally have both letters to set up consults!​

December 2023
It's been such a long process this year, but my primary therapist finally agreed to write me a letter and I received it yesterday. I was asked by the surgeon I'm getting a consult with to get another letter from the other therapist that wrote a letter for me previously. I wasn't sure how she receptive she was going to be, but she was very understanding and agreed to write another letter without any issues. It's kind of a weird feeling, because as difficult as this was it really was the easy part
I'm starting by getting a consult with the surgeon who did my original surgery (Del Corral), but I'm not necessarily locked on him or anything. Figuring out who to go to is going to be a process in and of itself, but I'm trying not to stress too much now. Enjoying the moment while I can haha

Spoiler: Another consult post

My consult has finally been scheduled!​

December 2023
I'm soo relieved! It's scheduled for February 5th, which isn't so bad. I was expecting a couple months so I was prepared for that. Browsing here has helped me get together a list of questions to ask, so now I can just chill until then

And then next post is the first above.

 

[Mad_Dog]

He complains about having to dilate everyday. Even if his SRS went perfectly he still would have to do that. He was told this by Kamol and likely everywhere he did research.
Do these narc trannies go into these surgeries thinking it'll turn out so amazing they won't even have to do what the surgeon tells them. If they just believe enough it'll turn into a real pussy like some kind of Pinocchio magic?

"I'm not like those other poor saps, my designer Gucci Pucci® will turn out perfect, better than a real one"
Better start stockpiling that columbian-grade copium, troon, you're gonna need it when the stench hits your nostrils.

 

[Putin Bot]

Hello there,

I had my bottom surgery last July with Dr. Cecille Ferrando as my surgeon and Natalie Weingerd as my NCP. I’ve had some major issues.

1 - my left labia initially sloughed off. It’s still very pink and I’m hoping it will grow back. I’m giving it a year and after that I need to see a plastic surgeon.

1. I am consistently having granulation tissue growth which is removed with nitrite. I’ve also used 2.5mg of hydrocortisone on the tip of my dilator for 2 weeks in November per my NCP.
2. My clitoris fused together and I’m having revision surgery on February 19th. That will be fixed.
3. I was told I seemed tight and have gone to PT about 5 times. This has helped.
4. End of November early December I started having lots of pain while dilating and having sex. I continue to be very raw inside. I was told I had an ulcer and used estrogen cream for 1 month per my NCP.
5. Since November I’ve been dealing with a God awful odor with yellow discharge. Sometimes it smells like a dirty belly button other times like something spoiled. I’m continually told I may just have a smell and discharge. I was also told the smell could be from the granulation tissue and/or my ulcer. After she uses the nitrite the smell goes away for a week and comes back. I’ve used boric acid which stopped the smell and discharge. I was told to not use those.
6. I was tested for BV and other viruses in January and it came back negative.
7. I am currently dealing with so much pain while dilating. I am still very raw on the inside and after I’m done it still hurts. Yesterday it was throbbing so bad I had to take a 400mg gabapentin and 1000mg of Tylenol.

I see my NCP next week but I honestly think I’m not giving to get any resolution.

I do not know what to do and need help from you ladies.

Please I am posting these pictures so you can see the rawness. Please do not judge.

Spoiler: The pictures

 

[toilet_rainbow]

I'm strong enough to handel it but still it's so stupid thing to do because everybody ain't. I have given promise to use my pictures to surgeons for educational purposes. I wish I have seen some pictures and read experienses 14 yrs ago.

"I'm sharing my photos to educate, but don't share them elsewhere to educate people! That's rude and stupid!"

That's not how the internet works, woman with no sisu.

Yes, they do, quite literally. The sheer delusion, magical thinking, and biological illiteracy of these people is one of the many reasons I despise them so much. They truly, genuinely believe that estrogen is like a magic potion that will transform them into a woman, or vice versa with testosterone.

I've seen troons and handmaidens claim that HRT will literally change bone structure. And I don't mean bone density, which makes sense. Like they genuinely believe that pelvises will change to the opposite sex's, or an adult pooner will grow taller. In a cult full of deluded thinking, I think that's the peak one to me.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Imagine sex feeling like going over those highway rumble strips.

"Ribbed For No Pleasure"

This TiFs arm graft completely failed. She's going to get it re-grafted so I guess she'll now have two big scars on her thighs. u/Imgonnafly04
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Regraft on Wed (1/31)

The graft looked even worse at my 2nd follow up yesterday. So, they will be regrafting it. I’m nervous it will fail again, and worried I won’t be able to go home at the planned time.

Feeling bummed, but grateful that my new dude is healing really well and both surgeons are thrilled with my progress.

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This one's quite interesting. It's an 49yo old lesbian pooner who was a Mormon. She left the mormon church and rejoined at some point then left again. She only 5'0"tall. Lesbian wife divorced her right before she properly pooned out. lesbian wife knew the TiF wanted to be a man but jumped ship right when she decided to transition.
She's mentioned she had two children (both adults, a daughter and son) as well as an ex husband. She came out as a lesbian at 29 and became a TiF sometime around 2020 as she started T that year.
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Looks like the Pooner lovechild of Sean Astin and Kevin Rudd

Women can't have a single God damn thing for ourselves, not even a shitty medical condition.

I agree that this is terrible. It does go the other way, too.

Why is this method so rarely used? I'm assuming because a whole chunk of thigh muscle is removed. How do surgeons preserve functionality of the donor site?

Come on now: if there's one thing we've learnt from this thread it's that surgeons aren't even slightly concerned about functionality...and why would they be? - Pooners are almost universally idle. Most end up with at best a cane to walk, if not simply confined to a wheelchair. Hell, most are so lazy they'll choose to use a motorised scooter rather than walk anywhere.
The Mengeles who do these surgeries understand the Pooner Motto very clearly: "Stand To Pee, at ANY cost".

u/fleepis-throwaway after 23 days
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She looks so tiny yet the phallus is so big. I wonder how difficult it's gonna be when she gets to the point of having to wear pants.

That looks like a porchetta. Also, lol at the excruciatingly female pubic hair.

 

[Stan]

"I'm sharing my photos to educate, but don't share them elsewhere to educate people! That's rude and stupid!"

That's not how the internet works, woman with no sisu.

ORIGINAL SEX CHANGE —- DO NOT STEAL

 

[Sõõrik]

1 - my left labia initially sloughed off. It’s still very pink and I’m hoping it will grow back. I’m giving it a year and after that I need to see a plastic surgeon.

Is this retard really hoping the labia will grow back

 

[Thursday]

If you're stupid enough to troon out the magical belief that body parts just grow back is plausible.

 

[Haram-Habibi]

If troons and pooners are so up their own asses that they can't recognize the pattern ("my bits are gross, Imma cut them off"......endorphin hit from getting the green light to cut them off.......doped up on really sweet pharmaceutical grade shit, so everything looks great including their mangled crotches......ah shit, I gotta maintain this? for the rest of my life? this HURTS.. ........oops, problems.......post pics asking for advice, and having them end up heaven knows where on the internet......getting a revision or five......no one will fix my crotch.......help.....) and they STILL go through with it, they're hopeless.

Preddit is full of those stories, every single damn day. The skin tones change, but the story arc is always the same. It's not an "evil KF take". It's their own words and pictures telling the truth of how it always ends up.

Not a single one of them ever get the fairytale ending, where they have a wonderful, sweet life. There's no little Disney cartoon animals serenading them as they whistle off to work from their magical castles in the hills. There's no hottie waiting there for them, who really can't tell the difference between their designer "party zones" and the natal thing.

The "successes" like Kim Petras and Ellen Page? Yeah, they got hotties beating down their doors, don't they? Lots of roles comin' Ellen's way, and Kim's selling more than Tay Tay (totally not headed for the "where are they now" files), right? That's the best case scenario, kids, and.....their lives suck. You can see it in Ellen's eyes and the way that Kim moves like an arthritic grandma.

Kim and Ellen have much more money than the average troon or pooner. If they can't have the fairytale ending after chasing the rainbow to the end, no one can.

 

[garbage cake]

Yes, they do, quite literally. The sheer delusion, magical thinking, and biological illiteracy of these people is one of the many reasons I despise them so much. They truly, genuinely believe that estrogen is like a magic potion that will transform them into a woman, or vice versa with testosterone.

I've seen troons and handmaidens claim that HRT will literally change bone structure.

The activist troons really push the “it literally changes!!!” insanity. Tony / Erin Reed got his dick inverted by fellow male Dr. Christine McGinn and believes his sex has changed because of “histology”, microscopic tissue changes (but not too microscopic, like the XY in every one of his cells)




The troons look to Tony for his daily fear-mongering about genocide and also get to hear him say his cock and ball skin is a membrane now. They truly are this stupid and delusional.

Tony should read this PubMed paper (who am I kidding, he would share it without reading it thinking it proved his point)
PubMed | Do histologic changes in the skin-lined neovagina of male-to-female transsexuals really occur?

To end this discussion, the aim of this study was to objectify the short-term and long-term histologic aspect of this neovaginal epithelial lining. Biopsies were taken from the epithelium lining of the neovagina of 9 male-to-female transsexuals, from the moment of vaginoplasty up to 14 years after. These were stained with hematoxylin-eosin and periodic acid-Schiff stain for histologic comparison to normal vaginal biopsies. Because no changes that might have been induced by local influences or hormonal therapy were found, we concluded that short-term and long-term changes in the histologic aspect of inverted skin flaps do not occur after penile and scrotal skin vaginoplasty in male-to-female transsexuals.

 

[Kumquat]

u/sadhopelessthrowaway is a TiM that regrets getting a vaginoplasty and has recently got a consult for a phalloplasty. He still identifies as a she/her though.
He seemed very happy and optimistic running up to the appointment based on his previous posts, but today he's posted the aftermath and he's not happy.

A few pages back there was a TIM who wanted to preserve his balls in a jar after surgery, and I made a joke about trannies being so delusional he might have thought he could get them reattached if he didn't like the results of his amhole installation. I see I was not that far off the mark, as here we have another TIM who thinks he can just get a new dick attached because he doesn't like his stink ditch.

Man, if he hates his rot pocket, just wait until he gets his new flesh-tube installed. The neo-vaginas are unholy abominations, but the rot dogs are something so sinister and evil that Satan himself couldn't come up with a more vile plan if he tried.

Buddy, just cut your losses. It's over. Your only hope at that point is to neck yourself.

 

[BScCollateral]

I see I was not that far off the mark, as here we have another TIM who thinks he can just get a new dick attached because he doesn't like his stink ditch.

They seem to believe we live in a cyberpunk future where you can just swap body parts around, and not the real world where, at best, the surgeon does what they can and hopes it heals correctly.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

A common question on the growyourclit subreddit is "Do I have to stop taking testosterone while pregnant?"

Poor bub.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I transitioned from female to male. I appear and act very masculine

No you don't.

and I have a penis now.

No you don't.

I am clean, respectful, kind, pretty normal person all around.

No you aren't.

I'm not looking for anything wild, just want to try sex

Lol

 

[Generic Name #37]

They seem to believe we live in a cyberpunk future where you can just swap body parts around, and not the real world where, at best, the surgeon does what they can and hopes it heals correctly.

I read an article that referred to it as “Meat-Lego Gnosticism”
It’s astounding how completely and utterly moronic most people are about medicine and biomedical research. Every time someone gives a presentation on some minuscule advancement in prosthetic limbs you get mouth breathing dullards in the audience that ask a question that boils down to “how long ‘till I get my cyberpunk robo-arms?” The answer is never. Not only are current prosthetics nowhere near as functional as the natural limbs that they are a replacement for, they likely will never be as functional. Furthermore, even if they were equally as functional, there’s still issues like phantom limb pain, which is not easy to deal with. This is in addition to the fact that nobody is looking into making cyborg arms or legs because it’s not ethical to cut off healthy limbs. Because it’s not troonery, doctors are capable of saying this, but because troonery has become the shit-leftist (American politics doesn’t have a left/right it has democrat/not republican and republican/not democrat) cause de jour doctors with a moral compass have to keep their mouths shut or face censure.
It’s so frustrating.

 

[Conspiracy Mawile]

That "phalloplasty after vaginoplasty" timeline really got me. Poor fellow, but at some point you should realize that even more unnecessary surgeries on your nether regions to fix psychological problems are not gonna help you.
What I find most shocking is that the surgeon actually considers doing this. At what point in your medical career do you come to that point, where you talk with a transsexual man about the reversal of his sex change operation and don't completely lose your mind?

Apparently that is him (?): Gabriel Del Corral

Vulvoplasty: Suited to those who aren't interested in receiving penetrative vaginal sex; have concerns about age and recovery; identify as non-binary and feel that Vulvoplasty is an appropriate choice; or have higher risk factors.

Orchiectomy: Removal of testicles. Beyond gender affirmation, Orchiectomy also reduces testosterone levels and may allow you to reduce estrogen dosage; decreases risk of in thromboembolic and cardiovascular risk associated with high estrogen doses; and eliminates spironolactone's diuretic effects.

Get your testicles cut off if you have the non-binaries.

Edit: It never happens, folx:

Dr. Del Corral will operate on minors with parental consent.

Guy even has whole Youtube channel (view gore vids on own risk): smart doctor does the good work

Apparently these surgeries now get done via assistance of medical robots.
(Unlucky coincidence of abreviations: SRS)

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I read an article that referred to it as “Meat-Lego Gnosticism”

I'm sure Gnostics would condemn stuff like that as work of the Demiurge.