Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military

[Finnish Air Force]

This is where I agree with Matthew Cole that this is a case of failed leadership. When your "top tier elite soldiers" are chugging rip fuel (and who knows what else), slamming themselves against walls to death metal and yelling, "Kill for Christ!", the grown-ups there should have recognized that it was time to pull the plug and have a talk with the soldiers. But obviously, the Captains, Majors, etc. knew this was happening and didn't give a shit or even encouraged it.

And now we have leaks of war crimes and sensitive drone tech, probably uploaded on a blackout drunk rage night by a JSOC member.

The thing that bothers me about Army leadership in general is that they swear up and down that the Army is super duper professional and not like those dumb SEALs. Then actual Army operators reveal themselves to be fucked up too. Not saying SEALs don't have issues but I think it's highly immature of the Army guys to always talk about how fucked up other people are rather than focusing on their own issues.

The CSM of the 75th Ranger Regiment in a recent interview told people to read The Intercept's reporting on SEAL war crimes and how his guys were more professional and better than that. But he failed to mention that the Intercept also did a whole war crimes expose on his own unit.
Link/Archive

 

[Justtocheck]

The thing that bothers me about Army leadership in general is that they swear up and down that the Army is super duper professional and not like those dumb SEALs. Then actual Army operators reveal themselves to be fucked up too. Not saying SEALs don't have issues but I think it's highly immature of the Army guys to always talk about how fucked up other people are rather than focusing on their own issues.

Yeah, agreed.

By the way, your other question about U.S. Vets going to Ukraine. There were a couple of spec ops when they realized they were in a war where artillery was the real killer, fucked off. Shame on them. War tourism is disgraceful. Some did remain, like one special forces dude who stayed and got killed, and Priggo showed his body on camera in Bahmut. But from what I've seen, the service who actually stayed the longest and with more numbers was the Marines. It figures, since they are used to having a low budget and fighting in actual austere conditions.

 

[Finnish Air Force]

Found another vid reposted to YouTube. Delta skydiving from a civilian airliner. I have a decent amount of civilian skydiving experience. That was legitimately bad. As in they wouldn't be able to get their civilian qualification bad. I know they have lots of other stuff to train on, but Jesus. Maybe that drone operator who leaked the footage is a whistleblower on the current state of the Army.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsogX6RZDWQ

To clarify it appears to be a military owned aircraft. There's been rumors about the military owning undercover planes to infiltrate countries. Would be really cool if those niggers knew how to stabilize themselves upon exiting the aircraft -- which is supposed to be the first thing you learn in AFF.

 

[Major]

Outside of Andy Mcnab being caught red handed lying about his experience during desert storm. Do British special forces act autistic like Americans SF do? I have a feeling Israeli special forces are the biggest spergs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl3hw4LF9t8

 

[Justtocheck]

Found another vid reposted to YouTube. Delta skydiving from a civilian airliner. Somewhat doxing, but have a decent amount of civilian skydiving experience. That was legitimately bad. As in they wouldn't be able to get their civilian qualification bad. I know they have lots of other stuff to train on, but Jesus. Maybe that drone operator who leaked the footage is a whistleblower on the current state of the Army.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsogX6RZDWQ

Dude, ARCHIVE, ARCHIVE, ARCHIVE! Especially on fucking YouTube. I have already archived it on my drive. But the embeds are currently broken. Will upload when it gets fixed.

Guys, if you find a leak, fucking ARCHIVE.

I do believe you though when you say it's bad. There have been multiple deaths in free-falling accidents in the military. They seem to be worse at it than civilians. If you mind, you explain what was so bad, for us who don't know much about skydiving?

Somewhat doxing, but have a decent amount of civilian skydiving experience.

Don't worry, this is not doxing info. What usually gets people it is two things. Either a screenshot slip, where you show your name or show private information on a file name or the other one, you give info that connects us to a public profile of you in a social media or one of your relatives. I've doxed people because I was able to backtrack them through their mom's public Facebook from the info they gave. As long, you take care in those aspects, for the most part you are fine.

 

[Finnish Air Force]

I do believe you though when you say it's bad. There have been multiple deaths in free-falling accidents in the military. They seem to be worse at it than civilians. If you mind, you explain what was so bad, for us who don't know much about skydiving?


Don't worry, this is not doxing info. What usually gets people it is two things. Either a screenshot slip, where you show your name or show private information on a file name or the other one, you give info that connects us to a public profile of you in a social media or one of your relatives. I've doxed people because I was able to backtrack them through their mom's public Facebook from the info they gave. As long, you take care in those aspects, for the most part you are fine.

The first thing you learn is proper body position which allows you to exit the aircraft in a consistent, stable manner every time, and also allows you to maintain a predetermined flight path, which is extremely important for not dying when jumping with multiple people. You can see with the first jumper in the Delta video he immediately veers off at a diagonal indicating a lack of stability. In the third person footage at the end, the jumper is beginning to enter a spin unintentionally.


This is the best executed military skydive I have ever seen, which ironically was done by Rob O'Neill and his teammates.

Videos will not upload directly to the site for me. Here is a catbox for now: https://files.catbox.moe/woz4c3.mp4

Another important question for the thread to answer. I have never seen a fat Army Ranger or a fat Navy SEAL, but there's a metric fuckton of legit fat Green Berets and Deltas. What gives?

 

[Justtocheck]

Another important question for the thread to answer. I have never seen a fat Army Ranger or a fat Navy SEAL, but there's a metric fuckton of legit fat Green Berets and Deltas. What gives?

The 75th is very adamant on fitness. In conventional war, it's a tip of the spear regiment. Navy SEAL are all roided as fuck, I've noticed. I think that due to the mission profile of Green Berets and Deltas, some may get away with having a bit more of a "dad bod", though, I don't know where you've seen those fat GB or Deltas. You have to be VERY fit to get into either one, and the recent Biden Pic with the Deltas showed them to be pretty fit.

Perhaps older people in the regiment, who are part of TOC and don't go into hits, but are part of the command element overeat and have to calm down with the running due to injuries. But tbh, most Deltas and GB I've seen were skinny fit or roided. I've seen two in his late 30 with a dad bod but nothing the Average American would consider fat. If you have pics, share them.

 

[Finnish Air Force]

The 75th is very adamant on fitness. In conventional war, it's a tip of the spear regiment. Navy SEAL are all roided as fuck, I've noticed. I think that due to the mission profile of Green Berets and Deltas, some may get away with having a bit more of a "dad bod", though, I don't know where you've seen those fat GB or Deltas. You have to be VERY fit to get into either one, and the recent Biden Pic with the Deltas showed them to be pretty fit.

Perhaps older people in the regiment, who are part of TOC and don't go into hits, but are part of the command element overeat and have to calm down with the running due to injuries. But tbh, most Deltas and GB I've seen were skinny fit or roided. I've seen two in his late 30 with a dad bod but nothing the Average American would consider fat. If you have pics, share them.

Yeah, I exaggerated a bit. These are all the ones I could find on Google. Compared to the average person nowadays, not really fat. But not what one would expect from a more highly funded unit with access to trainers and nutritionists.




This dude Chuck Pressburg deserves his own thread. He's infamous for getting drunk and shooting his brother-in-law. Link/Archive




Is there a science to he least in-shape dude always being on the right in group pics?

 

[Justtocheck]

But not what one would expect from a more highly funded unit with access to trainers and nutritionists.

That's the sad part. All that training and access to good stuff, and alcoholism, pilling and drug addiction is super common. The same story appears every time.

During the younger years everything is good and he "parties hard" (copes with the stress with booze) and then he gets an injury in his middle to late career. Back, neck, TBI, whatever. He gets a surgery and gets handed a fucking gigantic painkiller box to recover, tramadol (opioid) being one of the most common. He gets hooked on the pills. As time goes by, the pills don't work as well, so he washes them down with alcohol, and the downward spiral starts. Also, they start taking ambien because they can't sleep and Adderall and/or provigil as an upper plus the pain pills and alcohol and steroids to recover from the physical stress. At this point, the operator night drawer is a fucking pharmacy. And command doesn't mind too much as long as they can more or less perform, but he's a full on functional addict.

As for your pics, many don't seem fat. It seems more like they are bloated. Probably it's alcohol or the roids (or the combo). Many are used to lots of calories from the daily PT and overeat while recovering from an injury.

Edit: for units so secretive, they sure like taking pictures, these commandos.

 

[RPG-7V2]

Has anyone decided to look into the r/navyseals subreddit? It’s subreddit focused on people training for BUD/S and is jannied by a disgruntled former SEAL trying to convince people not to join and in classic redditor fashion would occasionally use it as his soapbox and sperg out about leftist politics.

Most of r/navyseals is just questions about the teams and training info, and the occasional shitpost, but one piece of lore sticks out the most. There is a former SEAL named Jeff Nichols who has beef with the subreddit. Jeff is a strength coach who trains people who want to go into Spec Ops and is memed a lot on r/navyseals due to his schizophrenic ramblings on his instagram page. But what cemented his legacy on the subreddit was when a user named Gabe uploaded all of his training programs (worth $50-100 each) to the subreddit about 5 years ago, prompting Jeff to dox Gabe on his instagram story and ask his followers if they had Gabe's phone number or address. To this day Gabe’s whereabouts are still being speculated.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

Even if their cool guy shit isn't as heavy and awkward as the 7D shit it's still not something you want to walk around mounted to your fucking helmet and in the up position for literal hours before the sun goes down.

Don't want to, kinda have to. As others have said you have to assume the mission isn't going to go as planned and you'll be out there at night, so you need the NVGs, As for why mounted is because vest space is limited (Probably more so in this high speed plate carrier age), and the carrying cases take up a lot of room you could use for something else. If needed you're going to have to mount them anyway, so might as well save the time. Also much, much easier to dummy cord to your helmet and call it a day.

 

[Finnish Air Force]

Has anyone decided to look into the r/navyseals subreddit? It’s subreddit focused on people training for BUD/S and is jannied by a disgruntled former SEAL trying to convince people not to join and in classic redditor fashion would occasionally use it as his soapbox and sperg out about leftist politics.

The mod's name is Ian Domery Fitzgerald. He has some good takes about the buerocracy and incompetence of the big military, but he's also insane. He was peered out of the SEAL Teams after one enlistment. He did an ama years ago that was a complete shitshow. https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/48sn4x/iama_american_whos_currently_being_held_in/

 

[The Delta Farce]

DEVGRU Operator explaining how he sets up his NODs. You have to be able to transition from clearing a dark space to a light space immediately. Think about your own house. How often do you have all of the lights on? You probably have the lights on in some rooms and off in others.

 

[Justtocheck]

DEVGRU Operator explaining how he sets up his NODs. You have to be able to transition from clearing a dark space to a light space immediately. Think about your own house

I still can't warp my head around how those panos (panoramic NODs) cost 40K Guess the barrack mold and plumbing and salary increase for the troops to combat inflation will have to wait...

 

[Maginot]

A strobe light at the wrong time would blind these guys bad. Hope the enemy never gets a hold of Halloween supplies or baits an ambush with deliberately sloppy cell phone usage.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Don't want to, kinda have to. As others have said you have to assume the mission isn't going to go as planned and you'll be out there at night, so you need the NVGs, As for why mounted is because vest space is limited (Probably more so in this high speed plate carrier age), and the carrying cases take up a lot of room you could use for something else. If needed you're going to have to mount them anyway, so might as well save the time. Also much, much easier to dummy cord to your helmet and call it a day.

>carrying cases take up a lot of room you could use for something else. If needed you're going to have to mount them anyway, so might as well save the time.
Not trying to be insulting, but this is kind of one of those points where people who've actually been in modern combat deviate from those who've observed things from afar, even if they've done so in detail. The "carrying case" you're talking about is a pouch on your kit, that's still called a "canteen pouch." MOST soldiers carry their J-arms in those in addition to their NODs. There's nothing you're going to put in those things because when you take your NODs off, you're not just going to shove them in your ruck or assault pack. The whole reason these things are in a pouch on your kit from the get go and not in your ruck or assault pack is because they "need to be easy to reach."

Normally soldiers don't wear their NODs just mounted because they're heavy, awkward, and it's not impossible for the rhino mount to fail to hold the NODs' J-arm in the up position and then cause them to fall and smack you in the face. When I was in most units didn't even like for you to leave the J-arm mounted to the rhino mount because it could very easily snag shit and get pulled off, and whitout one the NODs were basically worthless.


Blue circle is the mount
Red circle is the pouch, and it looks like he's still got 7D, but I have zero idea how old this picture is
Lol is because this nigger actually taped his BFA either to "win" in a training mission or because he wanted cooler pictures to put on his facebook page.

 

[Justtocheck]

Spoiler: JSOC leaks, intense close up shooting

I might be a nooticer, but look how in the middle of the vid, a dude struggles to walk through the corpses. Jeez

Edit: lol, everyone is shitting on reddit. Of course.

And their cuck answer is...

 

[The Grognard]

I still can't warp my head around how those panos (panoramic NODs) cost 40K Guess the barrack mold and plumbing and salary increase for the troops to combat inflation will have to wait...

The cutting edge of night-vision is always expensive and has been so since the Vampir system used by the third reich. That said, it's merely a symptom of a far larger problem where a lot of unsexy stuff gets neglected due to public ignorance and indifference of politicians. It always can be worse, as seen with many of the central European militaries after the post-cold war disarmament where they can't even afford the sexy stuff either.

 

[Justtocheck]

Guys, for some days the embed video feature has been broken, I'm trying to upload and failing most of the time. DON'T BE A NIGGER AND HELP ME ARCHIVE. IF YOU FOLLOW THE THREAD, ARCHIVE these links into your PC!

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The cutting edge of night-vision is always expensive and has been so since the Vampir system used by the third reich. That said, it's merely a symptom of a far larger problem where a lot of unsexy stuff gets neglected due to public ignorance and indifference of politicians. It always can be worse, as seen with many of the central European militaries after the post-cold war disarmament where they can't even afford the sexy stuff either.

It's just wasteful, IMO. You can get 15-20 monoculars PVS-14 to a squad for the same price as 1 pano, and give them %90 of the capability.

Edit: Look at this fucking bullshit. I got these links from a 4chan thread and as soon as the KF are mentioned. BOOM.

 

[Givi]

US Special Forces are the gayest shit on Earth and I'm fairly convinced they would do more harm than good in real wars and will eventually be as obsolete as grenadiers. The last thing you need in a war is a bunch of over hyped, coddled faggots with severe mental issues, giant egos and dubious morality going around thinking they're God's gift to warfare and better than everybody else in your army. The culture around this stuff that's been allowed to fester for decades is eventually going to bite them in the ass.

Of all Special Forces groups, there's around 3 or 4 that could be useful in a real war and to do so they would need to cope with giant casualty rates since they'd be up against mildly competent armies. All the gung-ho shit and frankly bizarre and often stupid plans and operations over the years would have folded even against Vietcong level of military competence (and also here's a reminder that the most active Special Forces in Vietnam had a casualty rate of... 100%. Every single soldier got wounded at least once.).

It's really no surprise that all this stuff is a breeding ground for minor lolcows. All of the above combined with the American worship of people who were in the armed forces is a recipe for disaster when you lose all that by becoming a civilian like everybody else. Props to OP for making a thread that's been fun to follow.

Edit: lol, everyone is shitting on reddit. Of course.

I'm sure this reddit janitor will be receiving his medal of honor any day now for keeping such vital information as anonymous sandniggers getting shot out of his shitty sub after it's already been spread onto every Telegram page on Earth and anybody who could possibly gleam any relevant information from it already has a copy.