Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Also I ask the question what could Russia do to make this crisis worse? Would a large amount of Ad hoc offensives add fuel to this fire or would it be counterproductive? Is there some other action Russia could take or should they simply sit and wait?
I would guess the best approach would be to slowly ramp up pressure while changing tactics. If they ramp up too quickly there's a chance that Ukraine will set aside it's infighting temporarily to focus on devising a strategy. If Russia plans it right Ukraine strategy could get deadlocked.
 
Another day and still no one does what Nuland tells them to do. This feels like the entire government there is about to implode.
I certainly hope it leads to the government she belongs imploding as well. Between the senile president, tranny surgeon general, former luggage-thieving department of energy head, impotent secretary of state, rainbow-tainted military, gay butt sex in senate chambers, and ever-weakening federal authority (see Texas and Florida), it feels like there isn't much more needed to topple that establishment pretty thoroughly.
 
Wasn't it a Tarantul-I class? I've been onboard one, it's an ex-East German vessel at Battleship Cove in Massachusetts. It's not a ship meant for any sort of close-in fighting, it's a cheap AShM lobber meant to be deployed alongside bigger ships or in packs to harass NATO convoys.

Sinking one of those with 10 suicide boats is pure overkill. I'd argue the Ukies actually wasted those suicide boats.

Interesting side note from Wikipedia:
The decision to scrap the ship came as a result of significant deterioration in the ship's hull, which would have necessitated a costly dry docking to repair. Chris Nardi, the Chief Operating Officer for Battleship Cove, also noted that "The Hiddensee, as designed by the Russian shipyard ... they were designed to be definitely disposable in terms of the way they were constructed", which also militated against trying to repair the vessel.

That being said, this also should remind Russia that taking the Black Sea littoral is a prerequisite to avoid Ukie terrorism in the Black Sea, the same way taking Adeevka is necessary to stop Ukie shelling of Donesk.
 
I certainly hope it leads to the government she belongs imploding as well. Between the senile president, tranny surgeon general, former luggage-thieving department of energy head, impotent secretary of state, rainbow-tainted military, gay butt sex in senate chambers, and ever-weakening federal authority (see Texas and Florida), it feels like there isn't much more needed to topple that establishment pretty thoroughly.
Not gonna lie, when put together it all sounds like stories about last years of Rome. Better hope Technocrats won't go for power grab when current party system collapses.
 
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Zaluzhny's official firing inches ever closer.
 
I think he's having trouble finding anyone to take the job. If the Nazi element is willing to overthrow the President I doubt they'd hesitate to off a usurping commander.
It might be also a matter of that the only people willing to take the job will either immediately surrender to Russia, or do such a stupid boneheaded move that their remaining forces get destroyed and they are forced to surrender to Russia.
 
I think he's having trouble finding anyone to take the job. If the Nazi element is willing to overthrow the President I doubt they'd hesitate to off a usurping commander.
If the nazi batallions do that it would be the funnest thing ever:
-- 1939-2022 : Nazis are the worst thing ever
-- 2022-2024: Not all Nazis
-- 2024-... : Nazis are the worst thing ever
 
I'm getting reports that Russia has made it into central Avdeevka and Russia has cut off the the N-20 Highway. An operational encirclement is not the same as an encirclement but it means any units that are in Avdeevka that want to leave have to do so under the fire of Russian Artillery which is very deadly.

Put simply Avdeevka is going to fall very soon within the next couple days most likely. It depends whether a retreat is ordered or they fight to the last and let themselves be fully encircled.

Yellow is very recent Russian Advances and Red is advances not too recently. The highway that has been cutoff is not H-20 but N-20 the one in the in the top leftish.
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I have also heard that Russia has been using significant amounts of Glide-bombs/Moskal-JDAMS. This is significant because it means Ukraine is having more trouble using cities as massive bunkers/fortified positions. As such they won't be able to hole up in the Coke plant for very long.
 
I'm getting reports that Russia has made it into central Avdeevka and Russia has cut off the the N-20 Highway. An operational encirclement is not the same as an encirclement but it means any units that are in Avdeevka that want to leave have to do so under the fire of Russian Artillery which is very deadly.

Put simply Avdeevka is going to fall very soon within the next couple days most likely. It depends whether a retreat is ordered or they fight to the last and let themselves be fully encircled.

Yellow is very recent Russian Advances and Red is advances not too recently. The highway that has been cutoff is not H-20 but N-20 the one in the in the top leftish.
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I have also heard that Russia has been using significant amounts of Glide-bombs/Moskal-JDAMS. This is significant because it means Ukraine is having more trouble using cities as massive bunkers/fortified positions. As such they won't be able to hole up in the Coke plant for very long.
You know it's bad when pro-UKR social media are all now saying in unison that Avdiivka was never really that important after all. I'm sure the tens of thousands of conscripts sent there to die will be thrilled to learn this now.
 
Put simply Avdeevka is going to fall very soon within the next couple days most likely.
I think it will still be a couple months before khavdikvkhva finally falls. The fortress does seem to have been mortally wounded but I think the opportunity to cause a mass rout already passed.
 
You know it's bad when pro-UKR social media are all now saying in unison that Avdiivka was never really that important after all. I'm sure the tens of thousands of conscripts sent there to die will be thrilled to learn this now.
Hey, they all said Bahkmut wasn't important after spending months waxing poetically about how Ukraine was valiantly defending it.
They'll do the same here.
And then with the next major strategic city that the Russians take, and then the next one, and then the next...all the way to Kiev. And possibly beyond that.

It'll be like those late WWII Japanese propaganda broadcasts that kept crowing bout the IJN scoring great victories against the US, with each "great victory" somehow getting closer and closer to the home islands.
 
To be absolutely clear, I'm not posting this to mock the guy. I think this war is a humanitarian disaster and whilst I see the breakaway provinces and Crimea formally becoming part of Russia as the best path to lasting peace, I'm not cheerleading for anyone. I'm just posting this to show the poor sod's reaction. Can you imagine it? The USA and UK tell you "Hey, go provoke Russia into war. We got your backs. Much money and weapons as you need." Then you're dying in the thousands, your economy is in tatters, you're reduced to using smoke shells on the off-chance they somehow land directly on somebody's head, your politicians' kids are all excused service because they are "in university education" and then the USA says "well, we'll loan you $33bn at a very generous interest rate and by the way, we want to see more LGBTQ++ materials in your primary schools."

I mean, look at this guy. Probably half his mates are dead and Victoria Nuland is telling him "we need to see more gay people!" I mean I'm not really on the Kiev side of this conflict per se but Good Lord, they wont be wrong to think we (the West) betrayed and used them.
This began over a choice between Russia giving Ukraine an interest free loan or getting an interest laden load from the EU, with the promise they would join the EU and NATO, and get all kinds of free shit from the EU even though the free shit wasn't at all what was promised. So they could give the finger to Russia and claim they had it better, Because they were now yuros. Like in the magazines and TV. In 2013.

I found this webm, it doesn't have sound but it has subtitles. They were literally the "I want to believe" meme. And the US encouraged it, knowing full well NATO and the EU didn't want to take on the Ukraine as a member, as if they could hide the fact they hadn't even maintained the infrastructure the USSR left them, let alone build anything comparable, that their economy was a sham and it's the go-to place for anything from illegal drugs, baby/organ selling, human trafficking and prostitution (but especially child prostitution). The US wanted to make the Ukraine a client state and put new military bases there as they worked out how to create division, economic instability (more shock therapy) and ethnic hatred in Russia with the goal of exploiting Russia's resources so Biden, Pelosi, Kerry, Romney, the Clintons and of course, Obongo and friends could hoard even more wealth.



They were warned but their lust for gibs was too strong. Should have taken the interest-free loan Putin offered eleven years ago.
 
It is the same cauldron we saw time and time again.

Ruskies slowly inch up, and artillery, slowly tightening the noose.

It isn't fast but so far it worked.
It's a methodological approach which is something that ukr bros haven't seemed to realize. They often go on about "lol no kyiv, Russia lost. 2022 summer offensive kicked them out of kherson and kharkiv" without realizing that the cities and locations are not relevant to Russia. Russia is instead concerned with the battlefield and the frontlines. It's not about where it's about what is going on, how best does the land offer advantage in battle? Most wars aren't about capturing the enemies capital and getting the warscore to win. It's about deteriorating the enemy and making the conduct of war impractical for the other side. Sure, Russia is using an intensive amount of resources but Russia is not retarded and there is a purpose behind this because Russia knows that when victory is achieved then the win itself will strike deep within the ranks of Washington and Kiev. The conduct of war is launched upon urban "fortress" locations that Ukraine chooses to turn into propaganda capitals and Russia understands that by taking them they're eroding the moral. The fall of Avdeevka will likely see Z-general get kicked out and he'll be blamed for it and then factionalism will exist. Rinse and repeat, cause dissent in the ranks and cause the military to be of no use. Then, when the enemy is not in a position to resist: Then you can push. A house divided cannot survive, and this is what the ukr bros seem to apply to Russia but are ignorant to how it is being applied on the battlefield.
 
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