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Screamer_2 said:
I have been told by people who watch them now they have swung back. I made a comment the politically biased double standard of what they make fun of made it unwatchable. Not that it ever watch all that watchable. I was told they're now back to making fun of everyone.

I had cited an example of how the caricatures of people like Hillary and Biden were done to support them. Not actual charicatures. Cool Biden. I was told they make fun of Biden being demented now. Although I haven't seen an example and kind of doubt it.
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Too bad SNL has the chronic problem of not being funny. You have to go back to the 80s to find good SNL.
 
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Opinion: Many Muslim voters no longer see Trump as worse than Biden
Opinion by Haroon Moghul
February 5, 2024

In a different world, President Joe Biden’s decision Thursday to sanction certain Israeli settlers involved in violence against West Bank Palestinians might be meaningful. In the world we live in, confronting the shocking violence by the Israel Defense Forces in its war on Gaza that Biden has enabled, empowered and endorsed, it’s a particularly severe instance of far too little and far too late.

From young voters to Black Christians, many people in solidly Democratic constituencies are reconsidering backing Biden because of his support for Israel. American Muslims might be among the most disillusioned of all. Over the last two decades, we’ve mostly backed Democrats. In the last few months, I’ve talked politics with hundreds of my fellow Muslims. Though not voting for Biden will effectively mean voting for former President Donald Trump if he wins the GOP nomination, I can count on one finger how many Muslims have said they are still riding with Biden.

After the undeniably awful October 7 attacks Hamas perpetrated on Israelis, Biden could have chosen to pursue a response that acknowledged history and weighed Israeli and Palestinian lives equally. Instead, he has overseen what former State Department advisor Wa’el Alzayat called “an illogical disaster,” offering tepid, toothless criticism of Israel’s military tactics while continuing to ship arms and provide diplomatic cover for a war that has killed more than 27,000 people in Gaza in just months. These numbers are collected by Gaza’s Ministry of Health, which is part of Hamas’ government in Gaza, and their statistics have been relied upon by the United Nations.

For the American Muslims I’ve spoken to, it’s impossible to overlook these choices. Biden was not compelled to pursue the policies he has. The world is suffering the consequences, and we are now seeing an escalation in bias and bigotry in our own country.

Amina Barhumi, executive director of the Ohio chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told me about a surge in anti-Muslim “hate crimes, assaults and discriminatory incidents” since October 7. Reports of such incidents rose 172% nationwide year-over-year, she said, with a “600% increase into CAIR-Ohio offices in the four weeks” after October 7. She charged that “one-sided statements from our elected officials” about the conflict contributed to those numbers.

Across the US, Muslims have faced violence including at Columbia University, where students protesting about Gaza were targeted with a chemical agent, according to reporting from The Intercept. In Georgia, a young student’s teacher allegedly threatened to behead her. Three Palestinian college students were shot in Vermont, one paralyzed for life. A mother, Hanaan Shahin, was brutally attacked in her own home; badly injured, she survived, but her 6-year-old son, Wadea Al Fayoume, was stabbed 26 times and died.

When people ask me how American Muslims can abandon Biden in the face of Trump, I wonder if they see what we do. I wonder how anyone would make sense of the incredible moral discrepancies at work.

Like many American Muslims, I’m in favor of a ceasefire in Gaza followed by a serious commitment, at long last, to a meaningful and fair process that provides Palestinians peace, security and dignity. Instead, through our government’s largely uncritical support for Israel, the US is propelling a violent military operation cheered on by openly eliminationist rhetoric that would face many more obstacles without determined American support.

In so doing, Biden has seemingly abandoned even the pretense of neutrality, which the US should be committed to defending. It’s morally outrageous. It’s also strategically bonkers. We benefit from international institutions, too, after all. So this approach isn’t just unprincipled. It’s perilous. Many analysts warned Biden’s policies risked American lives; with the recent attack in Jordan, killing three of our soldiers and injuring many more, we are entering ever more worrying territory.

Credible observers warn of the conflagration spreading further, putting more American lives and resources on the line. As far as I know, no Americans voted for this chaos and conflict. Most Americans, including half of Republicans, back a ceasefire, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll. Yet Biden has time and again declined to use the United States’ enormous leverage to promote de-escalation.

Have we learned nothing from our recent history? After the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, our elites led us into trillions of dollars’ worth of short-sighted, sometimes disastrous responses, worst of all in Iraq. A nation that posed no credible direct threat to us was invaded on false premises. Thousands of Americans and roughly 300,000 Iraqis died, and no one was held responsible.

Biden, then a US senator chairing the Foreign Relations Committee, voted in support of the resolution authorizing the US invasion of Iraq and has hardly acknowledged his culpability in that catastrophe. Worse still, he might not believe he has to.

We Americans deserve better. We should demand better, too. For a long time, establishment Democrats wielded Trump like a threat. If you don’t vote for us, they warned, you’re voting for him. But if these Democrats were really concerned about what Trump represented, they’d draw a clearer contrast. If they can’t convince us to vote for Biden, that’s on the party — not on the voters. Biden had a preview of what he can expect when he visited Michigan on Thursday.

Despite having just issued his executive order against violent Israeli settlers, he was treated to diminished representation from the American Muslim community, which is a considerable voting bloc in the Midwest swing state’s electorate. Days before Biden’s visit, local Muslim leaders were among those who cancelled a meeting with the president’s campaign manager. In December of last year, Muslim leaders gathered in Dearborn, Michigan — the city with the largest per capita Muslim population in the US — to officially launch an effort to “Abandon Biden.”

A second Trump presidency would be difficult, even harrowing. But I believe the United States can survive four more years of Trump. I’m less certain we can survive four more years of so-called good guys who act so clearly otherwise.
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Opinion: Many Muslim voters no longer see Trump as worse than Biden
https://lite.cnn.com/2024/02/05/opinions/trump-biden-muslim-voters-gaza-moghul/index.html https://archive.ph/1KRMd
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A enemy is one thing. A traitor is another.

The fact is that as I have said many times you cannot be the POTUS without paying your pound of flesh to the zionist AIPAC lobby. The difference here is that while for decades the POTUS would provide them with infinite funding and bodies to die for Israel on their stupid wars Trump's idea was to get the fuckers in the middle east to behave. He toned down the sort of meddling that has been ongoing since the 1960s in the region and simply told them "play along and we won't be doing shit anymore", and it worked. The period between 2016 and 2020 saw ISIS collapse fully since Trump actually wanted it gone, and the Abraham Accords actually had Saudis and Israelis in something close to speaking terms while bringing other ME nations to talk.

Of course, this couldn't stand for the usual suspects and despite all the help the AIPAC just can't help themselves and had to ruin a good thing. It's why Bibi was so quick to congratulate Biden on the win, because he knew that there would be no negotiating anymore and he could start going feral again.

Biden and his bosses are so retarded they actually thought they could take this scorpion as a fellow traveler and just have it as a ally no matter what. And how it has stung them and simply replies "lol, lmao"
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
>A second Trump presidency would be difficult, even harrowing.
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Me on the other hand, I'd be dancing on the streets with a song in my heart
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and the civil war more likely also the retards are going to pass the bill that basically legalises the current invasion
 
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Breadbassket said:
Worst case scenario for Democrats in this particular situation is that the Hamas-Israel conflict lasts up to the election with no ceasefire in sight.

If that occurred, the liberal political "coalition" would continue pulling itself apart.
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If I was NetAndYoohoo I would keep ethnic cleansing until November unless Biden pays me off big time.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
I saw this in January 27th issue of the Economist. They are really afraid, and they’ve stopped pretending they aren’t
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They need to keep pushing that indictment number as long as they can. The cases are crumbling.

It is like the SNL shit: "Why won't you debate me?"
Because you are 60 points down and unworthy of his time and networks are unworthy of his ratings.
They made the bed. Now they can get fucked in it. Enjoy South Carolina you RINO cunt.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Too bad SNL has the chronic problem of not being funny. You have to go back to the 80s to find good SNL.
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The one and only time I watched a SNL episode is where They play a clip of Trump giving a speech and then the guy with the punchable face just spends the next two minutes or so doing nothing but laughing hysterically while repeating Trump with an incredulous voice. No explanation why he thinks what Trump said was wrong, no punchline, just him laughing.

That's the quality of their humor. They tell you what to laugh at without explaining why it is funny. It'd be like if your theoretical mathematics lecture had a laugh track.
 
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Drael said:
Hoping for an optics win out of very questionable long shots
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There are no "questionable long-shots"
They've spent half a decade propagandizing their voters into thinking the man is literally hitler.
They would convict him of murders done 200 years ago.

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maybe, doubt it would have any effect since they are mortal enemies to most countries in the area.
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Yet those countries don't take in the gazan jihadis.
They also surveil every mosque and rapidly put down terrorist imams.
The removal of palestinians to the last living human cell would likely result in peace in the region.
 
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Xarpho's Return said:
This would've made a lot more sense 4, 8, 12 years ago when a female celebrity being lesbian was still shocking. Even "muh nonbinary" is going to be out of touch.

Ellen Page became a lesbian at her peak and when her hairline was looking more like a skullet she became a manlet. That got "him" back into the spotlight but couldn't really resuscitate a career, and beyond a book and some extremely embarrassing pictures looking like a 12-year-old boy in his dad's tuxedo, hasn't done much.


The whole bill is a problem and I hope the House kills it.

I'm glad that the House didn't approve the Sunshine Protection Act despite the fact that the Senate went full retard and passed it unanimously.
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Swift can't come out for a couple of reasons:

1. It would kill what was left of her conservative fanbase which she ran back to like a bitch when her SJW album Lovers flopped

2. It would make her come off like a hypocrite given how she's pretty much been open about how 99% of her songs have been about straight relationships (most notably "All Too Well", which was about Jake Gyllenhaal pumping and dumping her ass after no-showing her 21st birthday party)

3. Coming out doesn't help your career; it actually limits your career arc. People like Matt Bomer and Russell Tovel have been open about how coming out basically killed their careers and trapped them in the ghetto of only doing gay-centric shows/movies and the general open secret that if you are an openly gay actor, you are basically blackballed from doing romcoms and straight romance type shows/films unless you play the sassy/non-threatening gay best friend and that your only hope of escaping gay ghetto hell is if you somehow manage to reinvent yourself as a character actor and settle into the life of seconardy roles in Oscar bait films.


4. If she came out, it would resurrect the long standing rumors that her celebrity boyfriends are also gay and that Swift has been bearding for multiple gay celebrities for over a decade as far as if she comes out, the Hiddleston and Gyllenhaal and others will most likely end up being outed as well.
 
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Meanwhile the lines are drawn

Texas Governor Greg Abbott joined by 13 other governors for border security press conference at Shelby Park in Eagle Pass, Texas

Governors in attendance along with Greg Abbott:
Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp
Idaho Gov. Brad Little
Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds
Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves
Missouri Gov. Mike Parson
Montana Gov. Greg Gianforte
Nebraska Gov. Jim Pillen
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu
Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox

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Article that is droning endlessly about it


Texas' Abbott, backed by fellow US Republican governors, remains defiant on border


I love these journoscum headlines "defiant" you mean upholding the law?
 
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