Police shootings in Murrkuh and BLM protests: The thread. - It was a good thread, it dindu nuffin

Since it seems like this shit has been happening at least several times a week now for the past month, and separate threads have pretty much dominated this board for the majority of it, I feel it's time for a centralized thread on this sort of thing (apologies if someone already did this. If so, feel free to merge this thread with that one).

Up next on the plate, Chiraq has the potential to be dealing with more riots and unrest as footage from the police shooting of Paul O'Neal was released earlier today. Obviously, BLM has been all over this like flies on a dead carcass since the policeman apparently violated police protocol during the arrest. The only problems were that Paul O'Neal was being investigated for allegedly stealing a car (he was an 18-year-old in a Jaguar. Unless his parents were loaded, he doesn't have the equity or cash to buy one of those), he immediately sped away from police, crashed the car, and then fled the scene on foot before police shot at him.

Do I believe that police needed to shoot at him? Probably not. Did they have probable cause to suspect that he was committing a crime? Unfortunately, yes. This, to me, is just another case of BLM siding with a thug committing a crime instead of the hundreds people in Chiraq who are adversely affected by gang violence in the city.

On the other side of the pond, BLM protests in the UK blocked roadways and shut down airports and tram systems in Heathrow, Birmingham and Nottingham in protest of the five-year anniversary of the death of Mark Duggan, a man who was lawfully killed by police for planning a violent retalitory crime, was carrying a weapon and was an alleged drug dealer. What a saint, amirite?

This is the kind of shit I cannot stand, regardless of motive or cause. How many lives are you potentially risking with this kind of shit. What about emergency personnel? Good luck getting these people to move, especially if you're a firefighter or paramedic.

So yes, this isn't going to be over any time soon. Current year, indeed.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

We have a list of demands from the dindus.

Fucking lol.

I like how four of them are immediately related to ensuring that none of the rioters are prosecuted for their crimes.

And how all the officers involved in the killing should be "fired, arrested and prosecuted" before an "independent investigation" into the incident is performed.

 

[Ruin]

I like how four of them are immediately related to ensuring that none of the rioters are prosecuted for their crimes.

And how all the officers involved in the killing should be "fired, arrested and prosecuted" before an "independent investigation" into the incident is performed.

It's weird because the first three demands are basically endorsing anarchy while he last four are fascistic/authoritarian in nature. Those are completely incompatible ideologies.

 

[Shugo]

Those are completely incompatible ideologies.

It makes sense in the context of wanting Black supremacy. Charge the (white) officers involved, even the ones who didn't shoot him, no consequences for anyone black caught doing anything.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

It makes sense in the context of wanting Black supremacy. Charge the (white) officers involved, even the ones who didn't shoot him, no consequences for anyone black caught doing anything.

Nah, I'm sure that Officer Brently Vinson has had "Honorary Caucasian" status conferred upon him.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Ok, let's watch the videos and see if it helps anyone's opinions as to whether the Charlotte perp deserved it, or the cop was trigger happy.

 

[HeirenPlaya]

The hive mind of blacks is incredibly vicious and real. I feel badly for the ones with higher IQs trying to escape the cycle of willful ignorance and violence. If one has any criticism of the black community or a solution the entails people taking responsibility for themselves the swarm turns on them for being a traitor, an uncle tom, they're quickly reminded that they'll "always be a Google." There's no respect of individualism in their communities, speaking properly, not dressing like a lout, listening to music aside from rap all earns you a dog piling.

As one of the "Blacks with higher IQs," I agree with this to an extent. There is a hive mind in the Black community, just as there is a hive mind in the Chinese community. The difference is that the Chinese hive mind leads to success of individuals and/or the race as a whole, while the Black hive mind is largely self-destructive.

There are other variables to consider as well, such as the common lack of acknowledgement of Black individuality from other races. Experience has also shown that going "full c00n kissass" to Whites and other races isn't beneficial and will never gain acceptance. The Black person that rejects many of the negative hive mind aspects of his race is a fish out of water, doomed to isolation.

 

[Ineedahero]

Your description of the situation is a popular one. But based on my experiences, I believe it to be extremely warped when it comes to day-to-day life in these neighborhoods. I sincerely believe many, many people talking about these issues have no clue what they're talking about.

Police are not shaking in their boots every day. Virtually all of their work is tedious beat work. Yes, going into a shitty neighborhood is scary. But plenty of people, the people who live there, do it every day just fine. And they don't have the protection that a badge affords.

Yeah, see, the reason I don't think you have thought it through as thoroughly as you claim is because you keep pushing this 'shaking in their boots' thing, but that's not what anyone is claiming. Nobody here is saying cops should be fully justified to shoot any black man that looks at them funny just because black lives matter activists are whipping up drama, but the idea that cops aren't under more stress because of BLM is straight up ludicrous.

And we have already seen this happen in Ferguson, where the city has seen an increase in crime following the riots. And while it's true that if the cops are on edge and less willing to do their job because of resentment and fear they are not fantastic cops, it doesn't change the fact that that is exactly the situation we are faced with.

 

[Tranhuviya]

Anyone caught looting in Charlotte will get their foodstamps revoked.

I have no idea whether they can enforce this, but this may make certain people think twice.

 

[RI 360]

Anyone caught looting in Charlotte will get their foodstamps revoked.

I have no idea whether they can enforce this, but this may make certain people think twice.

Guess no one's showing up to the next demonstration.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Anyone caught looting in Charlotte will get their foodstamps revoked.

I have no idea whether they can enforce this, but this may make certain people think twice.

They might be able to enforce it in the local, and maybe even statewide, but I don't think it would work if said person moved somewhere else in the states...

 

[Marvin]

Nobody here is saying cops should be fully justified to shoot any black man that looks at them funny just because black lives matter activists are whipping up drama, but the idea that cops aren't under more stress because of BLM is straight up ludicrous.

And I'm not saying they're saying that.

I'm saying that there's virtually no connection between BLM and your average police officer's daily work. Just the sheer numbers alone makes it a really disingenuous excuse to make, even just for sympathy. It's basically claiming to be triggered.

Look, if you get arrested and go to jail for robbing a liquor store, I don't care how sad your life was. Do your time. And likewise, if you were a cop and you shot someone and you so much as dare mention you were stressed because of "lol tensions with the community," I don't care either.

I don't care about your fee-fees, whether you're a criminal with your pants around your ankles or a criminal with a badge.

And we have already seen this happen in Ferguson, where the city has seen an increase in crime following the riots.

Ferguson, MO is about as populous as a typical county seat. Who knows, maybe two neighboring clans are fighting over someone's baby momma?

Again, the numbers really don't bear anything out. Hell, you could find much stronger connection between certain economic measurements and crime. It'd be just as retarded to solicit sympathy (for someone who shot someone) by blaming the economy as by blaming BLM.

 

[QI 541]

As one of the "Blacks with higher IQs," I agree with this to an extent. There is a hive mind in the Black community, just as there is a hive mind in the Chinese community. The difference is that the Chinese hive mind leads to success of individuals and/or the race as a whole, while the Black hive mind is largely self-destructive.

From what I've seen, the Chinese hive mind is mostly prevelant to the older generations, due to a large number of them communicating better in Chinese, and therefore other Chinese people, rather than English. The black hive mind seems to have a different cause.

 

[RI 360]

Literally what MLK has to say about niggers rioting. tl;dw NO

 

[Without A Gout]

So BLM wants a few statues of Andrew Jackson and several Confederate leaders removed in New Orleans (It's a Breitbart link, but the point still remains). Destroying and/or removing historical artifacts and monuments in order to whitewash or erase history that you disapprove of. Do you know what other organization does this? ISIS.

Good job, kids.

 

[Ruin]

So BLM wants a few statues of Andrew Jackson and several Confederate leaders removed in New Orleans (It's a Breitbart link, but the point still remains). Destroying and/or removing historical artifacts and monuments in order to whitewash or erase history that you disapprove of. Do you know what other organization does this? ISIS.

Good job, kids.

No negotiating with terrorists.

 

[GabeRegan]

So BLM wants a few statues of Andrew Jackson and several Confederate leaders removed in New Orleans (It's a Breitbart link, but the point still remains). Destroying and/or removing historical artifacts and monuments in order to whitewash or erase history that you disapprove of. Do you know what other organization does this? ISIS.

Good job, kids.

One of the local news stations was live streaming the shitshow on Facebook earlier. The would-be vandals apparently planned to throw ropes around the statue and try and pull it down like the Iraqis pulling down Saddam's statue. However, unlike the Saddam statue that Andrew Jackson statue is solid bronze and firmly attached to a stone block. In the unlikely event they actually managed to pry it loose it would have fell on top of them and crushed them.


The NOPD was having none of this however, and were out in force to keep them out of Jackson Square; which was closed for the remainder of the day to keep them out. Two interesting things to note however. The first is that the majority of the BLM crowd were apparently from out of state, my friend who watched more than I did said he clearly heard northern accents from most of them. The second was that David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the KKK and candidate for the US Senate decided to show up to counter protest.

One final detail, while the dipshit mayor is trying to remove four historical statues (the lawsuits from the local historical societies will likely keep this in the air for a while), the statue of Andrew Jackson is not one of the ones scheduled for removal. Despite this, BLM apparently wanted his statue removed and replaced with a statue of Martin Luther King Jr, a man who has no connection to New Orleans.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

"We need to hold the wound", he says at the end.

Who invited the pussy to a niggos hunt?

Despite this, BLM apparently wanted his statue removed and replaced with a statue of Martin Luther King Jr, a man who has no connection to New Orleans.

And a man's whose message BLM do not seem to understand or want either.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

You don't need the city's historical society to lawyer up for an extended period of time. Just get someone to write an article for the Graun saying Jefferson was a Kangs and whitey is covering it up. Dindus don't read, so you'd have to wait for the hipsters to inform them, but it would probably be effective.

 

[Ineedahero]

And I'm not saying they're saying that.

What are you saying then? Do you think cops in Baltimore etc are emotionless automatons? How can you think this wouldn't influence their thought process?

Ferguson, MO is about as populous as a typical county seat. Who knows, maybe two neighboring clans are fighting over someone's baby momma?

Again, the numbers really don't bear anything out. Hell, you could find much stronger connection between certain economic measurements and crime. It'd be just as exceptional to solicit sympathy (for someone who shot someone) by blaming the economy as by blaming BLM.

What numbers are you looking at? 30 per cent increase in homicide in St Louis and Ferguson since the protests. Studies attribute it to a decline in proactive policing and a decrease in the public's ability to trust cops allowing criminals to get away with things expecting the public won't snitch. The same thing has been observed in Baltimore following the death of Freddie Gray.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Ok, let's watch the videos and see if it helps anyone's opinions as to whether the Charlotte perp deserved it, or the cop was trigger happy.

1st video is basically useless as the moment the cop goes around the car, his head obstructs the view.
In the second video, I genuinely wonder why they shot the guy, he didn't really look like a threat to anyone, he was just shuffling around, both hands visible. It doesn't look like he was carrying a weapon either.