US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[mandatorylurk]

I'm subscribing to physiognomy more and more as I get older. Just like the Roald Dahl lines from The Twits, there's something about your body showing who you are. Thanks to the beauty of bronzer Trump always looks like an 80's NYC businessman, Kari Lake looks like a fed up mom who actually cares about her family's well being, Joe Kent looks like a punished Superman, and then you have this Skeletor faggot and Stroke Turtle and Ozempic Meatball and Lez Cheney looking more vile with an ever growing mole the more they inject TDS.

 

[Gehenna]

I am hearing and seeing a lot more of an interesting shift in Democrat statements. A sort of cold acceptance that Biden cannot win. Not that Trump will win as the focus, that Biden cannot. This is an important distinction in how people frame it because it means they are becoming more depressed about Biden losing than they are angered about Trump winning.

Anger will motivate people to the polls, depression means one side simply losing votes.

 

[WelperHelper99]

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I'm subscribing to physiognomy more and more as I get older. Just like the Roald Dahl lines from The Twits, there's something about your body showing who you are. Thanks to the beauty of bronzer Trump always looks like an 80's NYC businessman, Kari Lake looks like a fed up mom who actually cares about her family's well being, Joe Kent looks like a punished Superman, and then you have this Skeletor faggot and Stroke Turtle and Ozempic Meatball and Lez Cheney looking more vile with an ever growing mole the more they inject TDS.

That's a insult. Skeletor has a better smile

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I think I've found the dumbest commenter in that whole thread (who is also apparently suicidal)
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$10 says he'll dodge the draft or meet an early grave.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Swift can't come out for a couple of reasons:

1. It would kill what was left of her conservative fanbase which she ran back to like a bitch when her SJW album Lovers flopped

2. It would make her come off like a hypocrite given how she's pretty much been open about how 99% of her songs have been about straight relationships (most notably "All Too Well", which was about Jake Gyllenhaal pumping and dumping her ass after no-showing her 21st birthday party)

3. Coming out doesn't help your career; it actually limits your career arc. People like Matt Bomer and Russell Tovel have been open about how coming out basically killed their careers and trapped them in the ghetto of only doing gay-centric shows/movies and the general open secret that if you are an openly gay actor, you are basically blackballed from doing romcoms and straight romance type shows/films unless you play the sassy/non-threatening gay best friend and that your only hope of escaping gay ghetto hell is if you somehow manage to reinvent yourself as a character actor and settle into the life of seconardy roles in Oscar bait films.

Only #3 is the reason. #1 is not an issue, I remember when the Dixie Chicks dropped the "Dixie" part after that drugged-out criminal died a few years ago, but they already burned their bridges almost twenty years ago when they came out swinging against Bush and the Right in 2003. I'm surprised that they're still around, they've been around before I was born.

 

[Easy J]

I am hearing and seeing a lot more of an interesting shift in Democrat statements. A sort of cold acceptance that Biden cannot win. Not that Trump will win as the focus, that Biden cannot. This is an important distinction in how people frame it because it means they are becoming more depressed about Biden losing than they are angered about Trump winning.

Anger will motivate people to the polls, depression means one side simply losing votes.

You take it as messaging? How do you read that with respect to election fuckery?

If it's a signal coming from the inside, it would be pre-cope. I'd think that if they knew they were gonna steal it they'd be pre-explaining the improbable win, faking up polls, ect.

If Biden is the focus, it could be a preamble for air dropping his replacement before he dies at the podium. Or he's enough of a shit candidate that the party wants to deflect as much of the backlash they've earned on him to spare the party a bit.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I think on some level the Democrats know Biden's going to lose but they are at a loss at how to handle this "Come to Jesus" revelation given the implications and consequences ahead of them no matter what they do.

1. They can't kill Trump or repeat 2020 and steal the election for Biden without opening Pandora's box as far as doing so would cross the rubicon and them not daring risk the consequences of such blatant acts

2. If they accept Trump winning re-election, it's a lady or the tiger situation where they don't know if Trump will seek revenge or if he'll forsake vengeance in exchange for focusing on fixing shit and the DNC knowing that they won't have much leyway to try and fuck over Trump via institutional moneky wrenching like they did last time

3. They can't get rid of Biden because they know Kamala is unelectable, Newsome even more unelectable, and the fact that no one wants to face Trump in the fall and lose because Biden shitting the bed makes it impossible for any Democrat to win in 2024.

4. Going "Samson In the Temple" is also a no-go since as stated in #1, they can't predict how the carnage will play out and how the odds are that the DNC won't survive if they cause Great Depression 2.0 to spite Trump.

 

[Gehenna]

You take it as messaging? How do you read that with respect to election fuckery?

If it's a signal coming from the inside, it would be pre-cope. I'd think that if they knew they were gonna steal it they'd be pre-explaining the improbable win, faking up polls, ect. If Biden is the focus, it could be a preamble for air dropping his replacement before he dies at the podium.

You are unintentionally conflating two things, though to be fair I was not as specific as I could be. I was talking about your ordinary, everyday democrats. Their ordinary voters. The people who basically have to believe the election was legit. This isn't messaging because its not the politicians doing it, it is what their voters believe.

With respect to how it effects the Voter Fraud Machine though, there is something. Keep in mind that the actual margins they cheated last time were fairly thin, tens of thousands which is not much in the grand scheme of things. So losing large swathes of voters puts massive strain on their machine as what it has to make up is ever-increasing. It simply makes it much harder from a numerical standpoint.

And that is just the tangibles, the intangibles get strained too. People less willing to look the other way or whose discontent grows to the level of active disagreement. Both need to be considered by those doing it and thus requires them to seek to be more covert.

Which leads into the third way this has effects. Legitimacy. Even with how fairly blatant they were with it last time they still put on a lot of effort to make it sound legitimate. They didn't steal the election, the "fortified" it. They didn't stuff ballot boxes they "Made mail in ballots more available", etc. They put in a lot of effort to make it superficially plausible and legitimate.

This goes out the window after a certain point.

The first major way it does is that people are weird and fickle creatures. Once we assume things will go one way we react badly to it not doing so even if that thing actually goes in a way we wanted. Our instinctive urge is to look at it closer, look at with with more skepticism. To the point of delusions. You have seen this, we all have seen this, afterall it was Her Turn so of -course- Trump had to have cheated somehow. That was not pure ideology speaking. It certainly helped those above the normal democrats to shape the narrative but the reason it was so easy to was because it was the unexpected result. And now that very thing would be turned against the Democrats, a whole populace nominally on their side more willing to accept that cheating did occur because the Corpse-in-Chief they expected to lose... did not. And once they are convinced cheating occurred, outside of the most hardened blue areas you will see a -lot- fewer people who believe in that Admin. Remember, only a third of the populace are actually Democrats, and only half of -that- is Vote Blue No Matter Who.

The second major way a loss of legitimacy would fuck them is already seen, but would then be on steroids. Foreign power would suddenly drop to nothing. We are already seeing it happen with this admin and that is with them doing their best to preserve legitimacy. The kind of steal needed to overcome in this scenario utterly devastates that. No foreign deal could be made, no existing deal would be respected, no diplomacy would be possible. The world would walk right over us and laugh at the pitiful protests because such a lack of legitimacy would ruin all counters. Even military, as such a legitimacy crisis would be simply -assumed- to extend into the military meaning the command structure is ruined.

In short, them managing that steal would utterly fuck them in the short, medium, and long term. Which is why I half expect it to happen because that is Clown World for you.

 

[ZMOT]

the general open secret that if you are an openly gay actor, you are basically blackballed from doing romcoms and straight romance type shows/films unless you play the sassy/non-threatening gay best friend

that's just how it is tho, similar to boyband members who are not allowed to be in a relationship (officially at least). the audience wants their make-believe, and an actor you know being a butt-pirate is hard to imagine in a romantic heterosexual relationship.
simply declare yourself bi and keep that open, only people reading gossip-rags will care or even know what gender your current partner is.

EDIT: also more of a current year thing. in the 90's people gave far less of a shit about that, in part due to no internet blasting it right in your face as a constant reminder.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

They can't get rid of Biden because they know Kamala is unelectable

They can't get rid of Kamala either because that would fuck over their black voting block however thats already being eaten away at because central American migrants are stealing the gibs and replacing them. Its things like this that really make me question to evil overlord theory. The is no shadow leader, just retarded special interests groups fucking everything up. I dunno if thats more or less scary than some big puppet master. Deus non est hic

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

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I'm subscribing to physiognomy more and more as I get older. Just like the Roald Dahl lines from The Twits, there's something about your body showing who you are. Thanks to the beauty of bronzer Trump always looks like an 80's NYC businessman, Kari Lake looks like a fed up mom who actually cares about her family's well being, Joe Kent looks like a punished Superman, and then you have this Skeletor faggot and Stroke Turtle and Ozempic Meatball and Lez Cheney looking more vile with an ever growing mole the more they inject TDS.

I normally give game developers shit for getting political. But if any of them want to make a game where the bad guy's a politician/CEO who wants to poison the water at an orphanage so he can make way for a land development deal, Lankford should be the one who they model their character after. He just looks like the kind of guy who sold his soul for power and money.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

My conspiracy addled brain thinks alot of weird factors are in play with the culture war.

They fired norm and brought him back to host after he got popular. it's as easy as "Shane is a hot ticket right now". if he shits on SNL during the monologue that's when you know the culture's shifting.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

I am hearing and seeing a lot more of an interesting shift in Democrat statements. A sort of cold acceptance that Biden cannot win. Not that Trump will win as the focus, that Biden cannot. This is an important distinction in how people frame it because it means they are becoming more depressed about Biden losing than they are angered about Trump winning.

Anger will motivate people to the polls, depression means one side simply losing votes.

Funny, I had my dem buddy reee'ing at me for saying I'm not going to vote for Biden this weekend. Same guy called pointing out the bullshit about the Texas National Guard supposedly letting those kids / mom drown "conspiracy theory". Still haven't heard anything since I sent him the link to the report stating they were dead an hour before anybody in the US knew about it from the supreme courts website. Though knowing him it won't count cause it's not Washington Post or NYT.

Same guy thinks Jeff Bezos is conservative, cause rich.

 

[Betonhaus]

The is no shadow leader, just retarded special interests groups fucking everything up. I dunno if thats more or less scary than some big puppet master. Deus non est hic

Definitely more scary. The Big puppet master would know what lines to never cross, and would have end goals that expect a level of stability. With interest groups they would happily tear everything apart for a 1% gain on their objectives, even if the consequences will make them further away from their objectives.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Hopefully Johnson really does Kill the Bill.

If it passes, we get 1,800,000 immigrants a year. Not "illegal" immigrants, just immigrants. They are caught and released and "awaiting a trial" where they will be rubber stamped as "asylum seekers."

So if you're one of the first 150,000 over the border a month, you're legal.

If Biden wins it will be Amnesty and Citizenship for the 13 million or so already here. Let's say only 10M are adults who can vote, and only 40% vote. That's still 4M voters in place for 2028. Voting Democrat.

Then they fast track the 150k a month to citizenship, say after 5 years. By 2029, even at a 40% rate, you get 2.8M new Democrat voters every Presidential election. They'll greatly influence House and Senate races as well. There will never be a Republican President again, and they few left in Congress will be impotent heels flapping around accomplishing nothing.

In 15 years, being a Republican supporter will be about as meaningful as being a Washington Generals fan.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Hopefully Johnson really does Kill the Bill.

If it passes, we get 1,800,000 immigrants a year. Not "illegal" immigrants, just immigrants. They are caught and released and "awaiting a trial" where they will be rubber stamped as "asylum seekers."

So if you're one of the first 150,000 over the border a month, you're legal.

If Biden wins it will be Amnesty and Citizenship for the 13 million or so already here. Let's say only 10M are adults who can vote, and only 40% vote. That's still 4M voters in place for 2028. Voting Democrat.

Then they fast track the 150k a month to citizenship, say after 5 years. By 2029, even at a 40% rate, you get 2.8M new Democrat voters every Presidential election. They'll greatly influence House and Senate races as well. There will never be a Republican President again, and they few left in Congress will be impotent heels flapping around accomplishing nothing.

In 15 years, being a Republican supporter will be about as meaningful as being a Washington Generals fan.

I heard something on the radio that the 1.8 million limit doesn't apply to asylum seekers, which will remain uncapped. Don't take my word for it though.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

2. If they accept Trump winning re-election, it's a lady or the tiger situation where they don't know if Trump will seek revenge or if he'll forsake vengeance in exchange for focusing on fixing shit and the DNC knowing that they won't have much leyway to try and fuck over Trump via institutional moneky wrenching like they did last time

You talk as if those are mutually exclusive positions. Trump gutting the federal bureaucracy in the first six months of his second term would kill the democrats. You can't just restitch leviathan back together, and you most certainly can't do it four years on after the rot as set in. The loss of talent and experience alone would be devastating.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Yet those countries don't take in the gazan jihadis.
They also surveil every mosque and rapidly put down terrorist imams.
The removal of palestinians to the last living human cell would likely result in peace in the region.

It's not ethnic cleansing, it's vermin removal.
He should do it anyway.
An israel without gaza occupied doesn't need any more aid.

How badly have history teachers failed this generation?

 

[mandatorylurk]

This reporter works for Punchbowl, a liberal news outlet ala Politico, so it must be something when even Turtle is telling people to vote against the bill he had Lankford work on. They need 60 votes to clear the senate since it's not purely budgetary. So while it will likely have Lankford, Mittens, Murkowski and Colins, it won't be enough.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

You talk as if those are mutually exclusive positions. Trump gutting the federal bureaucracy in the first six months of his second term would kill the democrats. You can't just restitch leviathan back together, and you most certainly can't do it four years on after the rot as set in. The loss of talent and experience alone would be devastating.

The unelected mandarins won't take losing their meal ticket and gravy train for life lying down. To where they won't have many qualms about assassinating Summer of Love anybody including Trump fucking with their status quo.