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- Jan 16, 2023
Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that no one in the Squad actually dies, and that's become a recurring problem for the team since the double whammy of adding in Harley and then making it (poorly) into a franchise.
Think on it. You can't kill Ms. "Fourth Pillar of DC" Harley, of course. Captain Boomerang getting killed in Gunn's SS was a very welcome surprise both because he's a Squad mainstay, but also due to Flash being one of the few heroes with a strong rogues' gallery beyond Batman and Spider-Man's that people actually know about (others have good galleries too! But they're not as famous) so you can't just axe him for good - non-Bat/Spidey heroes need every "good" villain they can get. But even other baddies becoming more well-known means they become more marketable and so you can't just see them killed off for the same reason as Boomerang's, you need as many good non-A-list heroes' villains as possible. And all of this goes tenfold if you're intent on making them into anti-heroes. Even though this means less bad guys to fight... and I doubt modern-day comics have a glimmer of hope of making new, cool supervillains if even previous eras of comics struggled.
Suicide Squad becoming more than a one-off thing in any adaption of the DCU means, by default, its concept is broken to make the characters recurring. Others mentioned the Doom Patrol as "quirky team replacements", but you could arguably have the Teen Titans fit in even if they were more properly the DC's X-Men parallel (as "young outcasts with funky powers"), or... or even The Outsiders as a co-ops team developed by Batman or even Waller (who's willing to offer carrots to unscrupulous but still moral heroes versus the stick on the Squad)! Yeah, the Outsiders! You could even have Katana and have someone other than Rick Flag utter the immortal line from 2016 for her.
Think on it. You can't kill Ms. "Fourth Pillar of DC" Harley, of course. Captain Boomerang getting killed in Gunn's SS was a very welcome surprise both because he's a Squad mainstay, but also due to Flash being one of the few heroes with a strong rogues' gallery beyond Batman and Spider-Man's that people actually know about (others have good galleries too! But they're not as famous) so you can't just axe him for good - non-Bat/Spidey heroes need every "good" villain they can get. But even other baddies becoming more well-known means they become more marketable and so you can't just see them killed off for the same reason as Boomerang's, you need as many good non-A-list heroes' villains as possible. And all of this goes tenfold if you're intent on making them into anti-heroes. Even though this means less bad guys to fight... and I doubt modern-day comics have a glimmer of hope of making new, cool supervillains if even previous eras of comics struggled.
Suicide Squad becoming more than a one-off thing in any adaption of the DCU means, by default, its concept is broken to make the characters recurring. Others mentioned the Doom Patrol as "quirky team replacements", but you could arguably have the Teen Titans fit in even if they were more properly the DC's X-Men parallel (as "young outcasts with funky powers"), or... or even The Outsiders as a co-ops team developed by Batman or even Waller (who's willing to offer carrots to unscrupulous but still moral heroes versus the stick on the Squad)! Yeah, the Outsiders! You could even have Katana and have someone other than Rick Flag utter the immortal line from 2016 for her.