Law A famous climate scientist is in court, with big stakes for attacks on science - They're trying to use the courts to stop any criticism of their bogus theories.

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FEBRUARY 6, 20246:00 AM ET
By Julia Simon

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Michael Mann is a professor of Earth and Environmental Science at University of Pennsylvania. He's suing a right wing author and a policy analyst for defamation.
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In a D.C. courtroom, a trial is wrapping up this week with big stakes for climate science. One of the world's most prominent climate scientists is suing a right wing author and a policy analyst for defamation.

The case comes at a time when attacks on scientists are proliferating, says Peter Hotez, professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology at Baylor College of Medicine. Even as misinformation about scientists and their work keeps growing, Hotez says scientists haven't yet found a good way to respond.

"The reason we're sort of fumbling at this is it's unprecedented. And there is no roadmap," he says.

A famous graph becomes a target

The climate scientist at the center of this trial is Michael Mann. The Professor of Earth and Environmental Science at University of Pennsylvania gained prominence for helping make one of the most accessible, consequential graphs in the history of climate science.

First published in the late 1990s, the graph shows thousands of years of relatively stable global temperatures. Then, when humans start burning lots of coal and oil, it shows a spike upward. Mann's graph looks like a hockey stick lying on its side, with the blade sticking straight up.

The so-called "hockey stick graph" was successful in helping the public understand the urgency of global warming, and that made it a target, says Kert Davies, director of special investigations at the Center for Climate Integrity, a climate accountability nonprofit. "Because it became such a powerful image, it was under attack from the beginning," he says.

The attacks came from groups that reject climate science, some funded by the fossil fuel industry. In the midst of these types of attacks - including the hacking of Mann's and other scientists' emails by unknown hackers - Penn State, where Mann was then working, opened an investigation into his research. Penn State, as well as the National Science Foundation, found no evidence of scientific misconduct. But a policy analyst and an author wrote that they were not convinced.

The trial, more than a decade in the making

The trial in D.C. Superior Court involves posts from right wing author Mark Steyn and policy analyst Rand Simberg. In an online post, Simberg compared Mann to former Penn State Football coach Jerry Sandusky, a convicted child sex abuser. Simberg wrote that Mann was the "Sandusky of climate science" writing that Mann "molested and tortured data." Steyn called Mann's research fraudulent.

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The hockey stick graph, based on research from Michael Mann and other scientists, helped make global warming accessible to a wide audience. It was featured in part in the documentary An Inconvenient Truth. The graph also became a target for climate deniers.
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Mann sued the two men for defamation. Mann also sued the publishers of the posts, National Review and the Competitive Enterprise Institute, but in 2021, the court ruled they couldn't be held liable.

In court, Mann has argued he lost funding and research opportunities. Steyn said in court that if Penn State's president, Graham Spanier, covered up child sexual assault why wouldn't he cover up for Mann's science. The science in question used ice cores and tree rings to estimate Earth's past temperatures.

"If Graham Spanier is prepared to cover up child rape, week in, week out, year in, year out, why would he be the least bit squeamish about covering up a bit of hanky panky with the tree rings and the ice cores?" Steyn asked the court.

Mann and Steyn declined to speak to NPR during the ongoing trial. One of Simberg's lawyers, Victoria Weatherford, said "inflammatory does not equal defamatory" and that her client is allowed to express his opinion, even if it were wrong.

"No matter how offensive or distasteful or heated it is," Weatherford tells NPR, "that speech is absolutely protected under the First Amendment when it's said against a public figure, if the person saying it believed that what they said was true."

Many scientists under attack

Mann isn't the only climate scientist facing attacks, says Lauren Kurtz, executive director of the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund.

"We help more scientists every year than the year before," Kurtz says, "We actually broke a record in 2023. We helped over 50 researchers."

Dozens of climate scientists from the federal government have contacted her group in recent years, many alleging they were censored under the Trump administration. During his presidency Donald Trump denied the science of climate change and pulled the U.S. out of the U.N. Paris Climate Agreement addressing global warming.

But while climate researchers were early targets of people rejecting peer-reviewed science, now those attacks have spread to biomedical scientists, supercharged by the COVID-19 pandemic. Kurtz says while they primarily provide legal defense for climate researchers, they've recently heard from COVID-19 researchers, too.

Hotez worries about the ramifications for the future of science and medicine. He says: "Young people, looking at future careers, looking at how scientists are attacked are going to say, 'Well, why do I want to go into this profession?'"

Solutions for attacks on scientists

Hotez says he's glad Mann is fighting back in court. But he doesn't think a bunch of lawsuits is a sustainable solution. And he says he wants to keep working in the lab.

"We have a new human hookworm vaccine that'll come online soon," he says, "That's how I want to spend my time. I don't want to spend my day making cold calls to plaintiff lawyers."

Imran Ahmed, chief executive at the Center for Countering Digital Hate, says any response has to include social media companies as that's where attacks on scientists happen every day. Research finds that social media platforms can encourage the spread of scientific and medical misinformation.

Hotez says he and Mann are working on an upcoming project, collaborating on what they see as overlap in attacks on climate science and biomedicine, and how to counter it.

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Mann and Steyn declined to speak to NPR during the ongoing trial. One of Simberg's lawyers, Victoria Weatherford, said "inflammatory does not equal defamatory" and that her client is allowed to express his opinion, even if it were wrong.

"No matter how offensive or distasteful or heated it is," Weatherford tells NPR, "that speech is absolutely protected under the First Amendment when it's said against a public figure, if the person saying it believed that what they said was true."

Why is he a public figure, though?

The climate scientist at the center of this trial is Michael Mann. The Professor of Earth and Environmental Science at University of Pennsylvania gained prominence for helping make one of the most accessible, consequential graphs in the history of climate science.
The attacks came from groups that reject climate science, some funded by the fossil fuel industry. In the midst of these types of attacks - including the hacking of Mann's and other scientists' emails by unknown hackers - Penn State, where Mann was then working, opened an investigation into his research. Penn State, as well as the National Science Foundation, found no evidence of scientific misconduct. But a policy analyst and an author wrote that they were not convinced.

So this guy is only a public figure because he was being harassed by fossil fuel lobbyists and their dupes, but now that he is a public figure, he's fair game? This is exactly how editors on Wikipedia can make a subject notable: they force it onto the site and wait for the public to react to it by creating content, which the editors can then cite.
 
Michael Mann is infamous even in the climate science community for harrasing scientists with moderate views or thse that don't promote urgency claims.

Of course. NPR presents him and Hotez (who has dubious statements on Proximal origin and the censorship of any question behind it) in positive light and that any criticism of them are uncultured beasts that deny climate/medical science. Good strawmen right here.
 
Hotez says he's glad Mann is fighting back in court. But he doesn't think a bunch of lawsuits is a sustainable solution. And he says he wants to keep working in the lab.

"We have a new human hookworm vaccine that'll come online soon," he says

You can't "vaccinate" against parasites the size of hookworms (several mm to 1cm).
They infect you through the soles of your feet by burrowing through the (calloused) skin. The idea T-cells can fight that is absurd, like trying to fend off godzilla with a glock.
Thankfully we have cheap, safe ivermectin to poison them.
Gee, I wonder why Hotez was so anti-ivermectin the past couple years!?

I've previously been exposed to Hotez as a major cheerleader for censorship.
Now I know why: his entire career is quackery.

Why is he a public figure, though?
Because his testimony and "research" have been used to impact public policy, with the prime impact being energy poverty and contraction of the food supply / inflation of food costs/ third world hunger.

harassed by fossil fuel lobbyists

Interesting how criticism of someone's poor work is "harassment" when it's against leftists, but riots are the language of the unheard and mobbing GOP senators in restaurants and Supreme Court Justices at their homes is just "activism"
 
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This is what happened when academia spends time and effort legitimising stupid postmodernist bullshit as genuine ‘science’, it’s open season on everything. I’d go for the ‘reap what you sow’ gloat, but it’s 14C here in early fucking February and I refuse to keep some fat Saudi in cash just so he can gold plate another Ferrari
 
This is what happened when academia spends time and effort legitimising stupid postmodernist bullshit as genuine ‘science’, it’s open season on everything. I’d go for the ‘reap what you sow’ gloat, but it’s 14C here in early fucking February and I refuse to keep some fat Saudi in cash just so he can gold plate another Ferrari
This is washington D.C.
We know how fucking communist their juries are, which is why they forum-shopped there.
I expect this to have to hit the supreme court before sanity is imposed.
 
Because his testimony and "research" have been used to impact public policy, with the prime impact being energy poverty and contraction of the food supply / inflation of food costs/ third world hunger.

Lots of people do research and give testimony, that doesn't automatically make them public figures. What does make them one is when they get targeted by PR machines and grifters, and now some of those grifters are claiming that their actions justify themselves after the fact.
 
Absolute truth is a defense against slander/libel

The fact this guy advocated for a climate model that was wildly circulated and panicked about when I was a kid as proof we were All Gonna Die (tm) without Al Gore in office, but is now 25 years old and definitively failed to be predictive or even close? Is proof he's a hack and his critics, while they could've been a bit more gracious, were not wrong.

The hockey stick model predicted total biome death by the 2020's.... here we are......it's 2023, and my job involves plowing snow off the highway while the media that propped him up continues to do so by screaming "CLIMATE CRISIS, DRASTIC CHANGE NEEDED NOW!!!!" and try to make courts factually find guys like this were still, somehow, right, to the point mocking them should be actionable, when their Magnum Opus failed to vet even partially.

Look at that line... it's practically VERTICAL, if that were TRUE and URGENT URGENT URGENT.....EMERGENCY was indeed the proper response *no disrespect to Foreigner* we wouldn't STILL be debating climate change today, we'd all be desiccated husks. But we aren't.
 
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Lots of people do research and give testimony, that doesn't automatically make them public figures.
Yes, it does.
If you're testifying to political officials to sway public policy, you are a public figure just as much as the lawmakers you're speaking to.

What does make them one is when they get targeted by PR machines and grifters
You mean like "climate scientists" who are paid by democrats to gin up propaganda through data-butchery?
Then, when anyone questions you, you forum-shop the most partisan district in the country and engage in Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation?
That kind of PR machine grifting?

These are the same political operatives who are pressuring the entire web stack to censor "climate denial" in their terms of service, and getting a "defamation" precedent, no matter how corrupt and fact-devoid, helps put legal weight behind their cases laid out to web hosts, CDN's, etc.
 
Steyn said in court that if Penn State's president, Graham Spanier, covered up child sexual assault why wouldn't he cover up for Mann's science.
Oh this brings back memories. I love Mark Steyn.

If you read Michael Mann’s emails from discovery, he is a colossal dick who spent a large amount of time scheming to punish colleagues and member of the public who disagreed with him.

Plus his “science” is a dogshit model, which was being argued at the time and has been proven with the passage of time. Another researcher pointed out back then how you could input any data you wanted and it would spit out a hockey stick.
 
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I don’t know much about this guys research or its validity but I do know I wouldn’t give any credence to some “policy” hack writing a book with a very clear agenda. An author who has to resort to “there was a child predator employed by this university too” has zero credibility imo.

Also, the definition of “public figure” may need some examination. Given the fact that any random person can suddenly be considered a “public figure” because so much information is accessible online for any bad actor to use, I’d be interested to see how that will be determined in the future.
 
don’t know much about this guys research or its validity but I do know I wouldn’t give any credence to some “policy” hack writing a book with a very clear agenda. An author who has to resort to “there was a child predator employed by this university too” has zero credibility imo.
This article is by the communist mouthpiece NPR.
Of course they're going to skip over the actual facts of the case and only present the hyperbolic sound byte.
The man being sued was one of the people analyzing the climategate leaks which detailed HOW they were butchering the data.
This isn't some wonk going "I think the data is butchered", the leaks happened FIRST with the open discussion of the data butchery, and then he confirmed them.

Here are some articles from over a decade ago that pertain to this case:
 
I don’t know much about this guys research or its validity but I do know I wouldn’t give any credence to some “policy” hack writing a book with a very clear agenda. An author who has to resort to “there was a child predator employed by this university too” has zero credibility imo.

Also, the definition of “public figure” may need some examination. Given the fact that any random person can suddenly be considered a “public figure” because so much information is accessible online for any bad actor to use, I’d be interested to see how that will be determined in the future.
Michael Mann didn’t need to sue, he brought this on himself.

At the time, the climate religion was less established, and journalists were able to see detailed data and there were dissenting scientists who weren’t hounded out of public life yet.

Michael Mann decided that his hockey stick model was so sacred that when Mark Steyn made fun of him, that Mann could go to court and make Steyn stop mocking him.
 
At the time, the climate religion was less established, and journalists were able to see detailed data and there were dissenting scientists who weren’t hounded out of public life yet.
Let's not pretend the data skeptics weren't thoroughly cancelled at that point.
The clinton administration defunded grants to anyone who dissented.
This is how you got "97% of climate scientists agree" talking points: anyone who disagreed was stripped of grants and made "no longer a climate scientist" by the year 2001

This isn't about driving them out of "climate science", this is about preventing them from speaking up AT ALL.
It's part of the coordinated lawfare and public-private "anti-disinformation" crusade to crush the first amendment right to dissent.
 
Let's not pretend the data skeptics weren't thoroughly cancelled at that point.
The clinton administration defunded grants to anyone who dissented.
This is how you got "97% of climate scientists agree" talking points: anyone who disagreed was stripped of grants and made "no longer a climate scientist" by the year 2001

This isn't about driving them out of "climate science", this is about preventing them from speaking up AT ALL.
Oh yes, but it was still not as far gone as it is now.

If I recall, Mann got climate activists to fund this lawsuit also.

The reason it’s taken this long is because Mark Steyn is stubborn as fuck and refused to settle. I think they intended to force a settlement/apology/silence.
 
The case comes at a time when attacks on scientists are proliferating,
Scientists aren't been attacked. They've been told "I don't agree with you".

This case and similar are proving that a big majority of scientists don't give a shit about science, they just want a degree and diploma to force all of us to agree with them because they know and understand something that's obscure for us.
 
This is what aloggers say every time they swat a lolcow or work to get him evicted or fired.
You're inverting this entire discussion, defending a man who is acting as a political proxy for deliberately weaponized lawfare against political speech.

"Harassment" is when a psycho uses vexatious litigation as a tool of abuse.
"Oppression" is when that "harassment" is funded by a major political party's dark money war chest laundered as "Climate Science Legal Defense Fund".
And here you are attacking the victim of this.


I see you ShareBlue
 
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I don't think you guys understand how actually weird it is for the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund to exist. It's not just weird, it's fucking bonkers. Fields of science don't need legal defense funds. At least not in this fucking nature. The most these organizations do in other capacities are liability claims and damages during experiments and other inter-industry legal disputes. They don't fucking exist in capacity for defamation.
 
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