Culture A ‘failure to launch’: Why young people are having less sex - For what researchers say is an array of reasons millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents.

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(Patrick Hruby / Los Angeles Times)

Vivian Rhodes figured she would eventually have sex.

She was raised in a Christian household in Washington state and thought sex before marriage would be the ultimate rebellion. But then college came and went — and no sex. Even flirting “felt unnatural,” she said.

In her early 20s, she watched someone she followed on Tumblr come out as asexual and realized that’s how she felt: She had yet to develop romantic feelings for anyone, and the physical act of sex just didn’t sound appealing.

“Some people assume this is about shaming other people, and it’s not,” said Rhodes, 28, who works as a certified nursing assistant in Los Angeles. “I’m glad people have fun with it and it works for them. But I think sex is kind of gross. It seems very messy, and it’s vulnerable in a way that I think would be very uncomfortable.”

For what researchers say is an array of reasons — including technology, heavy academic schedules and an overall slower-motion process of growing up — millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents’ generations did. The social isolation and transmission scares of the COVID-19 pandemic have no doubt played a role in the shift. But researchers say that’s not the whole story: The “no rush for sex” trend predates the pandemic, according to a solid body of research.

UCLA has been tracking behavioral trends for years through its annual California Health Interview Survey, the largest state health survey in the nation. It includes questions about sexual activity. In 2021, the survey found, the number of young Californians ages 18 to 30 who reported having no sexual partners in the prior year reached a decade high of 38%. In 2011, 22% of young people reported having no sexual partners during the prior year, and the percentage climbed fairly steadily as the decade progressed.

California adults ages 35 to 50 who participated in UCLA’s 2021 survey also registered an increase in abstinence from 2011 to 2021. But with the percentage of “no sex” respondents rising from 9% to 14% during that time frame, the increase was not as pronounced.

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The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year, according to Jean Twenge, a San Diego State University psychology professor who reviewed the data for her book “Generations.”

In an age where hook-ups might seem as unlimited as a right swipe on a dating app, it’s easy to assume that Gen Z “should be having the time of their lives sexually,” Twenge said.

But that’s not how it’s playing out. Twenge said the decline has been underway for roughly two decades.

She attributed the slowdown in sexual relations most significantly to what she calls the “slow-life factor.” Young people just aren’t growing up as fast as they once did. They’re delaying big milestones such as getting their driver’s licenses and going to college. And they’re living at home with their parents a lot longer.

“In times and places where people live longer and education takes longer, the whole developmental trajectory slows down,” she said. “And so for teens and young adults, one place that you’re going to notice that is in terms of dating and romantic relationships and sexuality.”

A slight majority of 18- to 30-year-olds — about 52% — reported having one sexual partner in 2021, a decrease from 2020, according to the UCLA survey. The proportion of young adults who reported having two or more sexual partners also declined, from 23% in 2011 to 10% in 2021.

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Though sex was on the decline in the years leading into the pandemic, COVID-19 made dating trickier.

Many people tightened their social circles when the pandemic surged in 2020 and 2021. And young people’s reliance on cellphones and apps for their social interactions only intensified when in-person meet-ups posed a risk of serious illness.

In general, people coming of age in an era of dating apps say the notion of starting a relationship with someone they meet in person — say a chance encounter at a bar or dance club — seems like a piece of nostalgia. Even friendships are increasingly forged over texting and video chats.

“A lot of young people when you talk to them will say their best friends are people they’ve never met,” said Jessica Borelli, a professor of psychological science at UC Irvine. “Sometimes they live across the country or in other countries, and yet they have these very intimate relationships with them. … The in-person interface is not nearly as essential for the development of intimacy as it might be for older people.”

Ivanna Zuniga, 22, who recently graduated from UC Irvine with a degree in psychological sciences, said her peers have largely delayed sex and romance to focus on education and career. Zuniga, who is bisexual, has been with her partner for about four years. But their sex life is sporadic, she said, adding that they hadn’t been intimate in the month leading up to her graduation.

“I’ve been really preoccupied with my studies, and I’m always stressed because of all the things I have going on,” she said. “My libido is always shot, and I don’t really ever think about sex.”

The sexless phenomenon has made its way into pop culture. Gone are the days when meet-cutes in bars leading to one-night stands and sex at college parties were the cornerstone of coupling in films.

In “No Hard Feelings,” released this year, a 32-year-old woman is hired by “helicopter parents” to deflower their shy 19-year-old son. At a party, the woman frantically searching for her date busts open bedroom doors where she expects to find people feverishly tangled in sheets. Instead, she finds teens sitting side by side on a bed, fully clothed, scrolling their phones or playing virtual reality games. Bemused, she yells, “Doesn’t anyone f— anymore?”

While there are practical benefits to waiting to be in a physical relationship, including less risk of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancy, Twenge argued that there are also downsides to young people eschewing sex and, more broadly, intimacy. Unhappiness and depression are at all-time highs among young adults, trend lines Twenge ties to the rise of smartphones and social media. And she noted with concern the steady decline in the birth rate.

“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system? Will there be enough young workers to take care of older people in nursing homes and in assisted-care facilities?”

Zuniga, who plans to pursue a doctorate in clinical psychology, can’t imagine pausing her education or career to have children, so safe sex is particularly important, she said. Others interviewed said “horror stories” involving friends who contracted herpes or other sexually transmitted infections had turned them off from casual sex.

“I prioritize my studies too much, and I can’t fathom the thought of having my identity as an academic fall secondary to being a mother,” Zuniga said. “Moving out of the income bracket that you’re born into is so hard to do, and a very secure way to do it is through education.”

For Rhodes, not having sex has taken a lot of the pressure off social interactions.

“It lets me relax,” she said. “It’s not that I don’t care about how I look or how I come off to other people. But I have a little extra help caring less about it, because I don’t have to worry about attracting specific kinds of people for specific things.”

And she pushes back against the notion that shying away from sex is some sort of societal problem that needs to be “fixed.” It might even be a sign that young people have more control of their bodies and desires, she said.

“Maybe you don’t have to have sex all the time,” Rhodes said. “Maybe if you’re doing other things in your life, and you’ve got other priorities, or you just don’t feel like it, that can be a good enough answer.”

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1. Everyone's a fatass
2. Feminists taught women that marriage/motherhood was a kind of slavery and made it low status
3. Mass media rarely ever portrays characters in happy marriages because MCs have to stay single to fulfill watchers shipping/fuck fantasies.
4. Government and the economy has made it hard for young people to get on their feet and acquire housing/resources for a family.
5. A rise in Autism has made relationships too hard for spergs.
6. A feminized society makes men troon out for status and attention.
7. Sex is hard to get. Porn, vidya games, online communities, hobbies and woke activism are easy.
 
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Jean M. Twenge,
Ph.D., Professor

Department of Psychology
College of Sciences
San Diego State University

Past books:
Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement (2009)
- co-authored with W. Keith Campbell


I thought I recognized the last name.

This woman co-authored one of the two books that changed my adult life the most, teaching me to recognize and understand the bevy of narcissists that surround us all.

Given it's current year though and I read her book over a decade ago, I shudder to scratch the surface to learn more about who she really is and what she really believes.
She's a very, handsome, woman.
Karl Pilkington called this nearly 20 years ago. People are becoming more ugly, mentally and physically, so they're less attracted to one-another.

It's as simple as that.
Look at your mom and dad's year book from the early 60s. If your parents are young, use your grandparents yearbook. Don't use a yearbook from the late 60s or the 70s, the haircuts fuck everything up. The guys and girls look way better on average than they do now. There were no fatsos. There might be one fatso per grade, but sometimes not even one. Just about everyone had a chiseled, defined looking face and a well groomed hairdo. Idk what happened between then and now, but you're right. People are definitely uglier now.
 
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“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system? Will there be enough young workers to take care of older people in nursing homes and in assisted-care facilities?”
The answer's no.

The fun thing about living through the slow-rolling collapse of a civilization is knowing it'll fuck over the people you don't like as much as it will you and the people you like.
Time to invest in funeral businesses whilst the price is low!
I've wondered sometimes what the logistics would be for owning a funeral home but not having to do any mortician work yourself. It'd probably not be an unwise investment given how things are projected to end up.
 
There's so much to say on this topic and all of it is fucking depressing. (:_(Sex is never just sex. We live in an age where you can order someone off your phone like a restaurant menu, and surprise surprise, it's not all it's made out to be.

When people become cheap fast food, dont be surprise when it doesnt fulfill you. A delicious stake takes time, peppers and careful heating and all that good stuff and no one wants to bother when they can get something to eat NOW.
There's no place for young people to meet anymore, and no time anyways since we're all wage slaves who are just struggling to stay alive.

Feels like life becomes a cycle of work-game/online browsing-sleep-eat-work that never ends. We barely have free time because economically, things are THAT dire. Boomers had the "So what I get fired? I can just get a new job.", newsflash, dipshit, the job market is in fucking ruins, its nearly impossible to find a decent boss and for a decent boss to find a decent employee, everyone is suffering in this equasion.

We are basically constantly in a depressing survival mode.
The "third place" for most people now is online, which is a sorry excuse for what church/recreational sports leagues/other hobbyist organizations used to be.

It has been a slow decay but Covid really felt like the major boost it needed to really leave us shit creek without a paddle since so many of these places remained closed for 2 years and a good chunk of them closed to never open again, either to just to stick to online or/and because they couldnt survive having constant bills with no income (since apparently keeping the doors open was murder according to wanna be tyrants).
And decades of destroying the family and gender relations has scared young people away from any kind of commitment, people are terrified at the possibility of ending up in a boomer marriage from hell where the husband hates the wife and the wife resents the husband, but they stay together for the kids they were told to have because that's just what you do as an adult.

This is something I will also blame Boomers for but Gen Xers are part of it too. Seems like we went from wholesome families to deconstructive "comedies" with dysfunctional families where the children are narcissistic sociopaths and the wife and husband are assholes who compete over who is the worst between the two. Its just this normalization of dysfunctionality.
Maybe it all started as a joke but it became far too real. That even goes to good shows like early Simpsons.
And young people have had this drilled into their heads for decades, that the resentful boomer marriage/family ending is the worst one. So dating apps, the illusion of choice, keeping people at arms' length and hoping that someone better is just around the corner is supposed to keep us occupied indefinitely.

Doesnt help that Disney movies may or may not sold a version of reality that is hardly matching that of what things really are. Girls now constantly believe that their "prince" is just around the corner.
There was also a lot of feminist propaganda to turn girls away from the concept of motherhood and courtship.
It's accepted that you'll spend your 20s (and probably 30s) sucking and fucking around instead of dating with the intention to marry.

Assuming they even get to the fucking part. 80% of women mess around with 10% of men. I dont need to explain how dire that statistic is, right?
And I'm no fundie, but that's one thing the uber Christian types got right. Finding a life partner to commit to and grow with, through thick and thin, and finding them when you're still young. The culture knobbed off at the most important life goal for 99% of people, and now we're facing the consequences.

Im going to play devil advocate with these people and say that, despite everything, I would take the worst of fundies over the best of degenerate nihilistic left ideologies. If you gotta be forced in a lifestyle, at least one is far less destructive than the other.

We are a religious nation and, surprisingly, once we turned away from these religion based values, things began to fall apart.

Yes, we do need fucking God in our lives. Anyone that says otherwise is a fucking retard.
We're gonna have a lot of childless, unmarried 30something men (AND women, as shown in the article) who just never made it. And you can blame women for riding the cock carousel, or men for being cumbrains who watch porn instead of getting girls, or both for being fatass landwhales. Maybe these things are true for some people. But I'm afraid of the number of perfectly normal young people who are gonna an hero out of pure loneliness is rising, and that's never a good thing.

You also didnt mention something specific, tho you sort of allured to it in the boomer marriage part.

Men are fucking terrified of divorce. Rightfully so. Think about it. You are living your best life, with children and all...and it can all be taken away if she decides that she "doesnt love you anymore" (she will make up a reason, either you suffocated her with attention or starved her of it, dont expect consistency).

You gotta work 5 times as hard to achieve a fifth of what boomers could with minimun wage and even if you somehow pulls it off with the sweat of your brow and smarts of your gray matter, it still doesnt matter because women have been so mentally fucked by this culture that they dont see you as the one, just "a" one and maybe its time to "replace" you...tho she will gladly take the children and half of your everything. Now, yeah, that would destroy you and leave you a husk of a man...but since when women give a shit about the problems of men?

So even if you got looks, money, smarts and all that is desirable to a woman...it wont be enough and she may still destroy everything, simply because she didnt feel "satisfied" enough and she was raised to act like a whore.

Men still live to build empires, women now live to destroy them
 
This is an emergency situation. I am calling on all boomers to have sex with zoomers (of legal age). Nevermind the age gap, we can't be concerned with social niceties in the midst of a crisis. Silver foxes must plow sorority girls and MILFs must hook up with pool boys. Horrible as it may seem, it must be done.
 
Im going to play devil advocate with these people and say that, despite everything, I would take the worst of fundies over the best of degenerate nihilistic left ideologies. If you gotta be forced in a lifestyle, at least one is far less destructive than the other.
My sis' friend is a JW and they're required to either go on mission (to spread the Word annoy the fuck out of foreigners in their own lands) or get married by the age of 21, or at least they were in the 90s. Sis' friend ended up in a shotgun marriage and is now a single mother. It's a system that could've been designed with the intention of creating as many Boomer Marriages From Hell as possible.

You know i find it funny how the most sexuality obsessed generation where they put in their bios that they're any other sexuality than straight are having the least amount of sex.You'd think the amount of time these people obsess over sex and sexuality they'd be having the most sex but no.
People tend to obsess over the things that are most difficult for them to acquire.
 
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Vivian Rhodes figured she would eventually have sex.

She was raised in a Christian household in Washington state and thought sex before marriage would be the ultimate rebellion. But then college came and went — and no sex. Even flirting “felt unnatural,” she said.

In her early 20s, she watched someone she followed on Tumblr come out as asexual and realized that’s how she felt: She had yet to develop romantic feelings for anyone, and the physical act of sex just didn’t sound appealing.

“Some people assume this is about shaming other people, and it’s not,” said Rhodes, 28, who works as a certified nursing assistant in Los Angeles. “I’m glad people have fun with it and it works for them. But I think sex is kind of gross. It seems very messy, and it’s vulnerable in a way that I think would be very uncomfortable.”

For what researchers say is an array of reasons — including technology, heavy academic schedules and an overall slower-motion process of growing up — millennials and now Gen Zers are having less sex, with fewer partners, than their parents’ and grandparents’ generations did. The social isolation and transmission scares of the COVID-19 pandemic have no doubt played a role in the shift. But researchers say that’s not the whole story: The “no rush for sex” trend predates the pandemic, according to a solid body of research.

UCLA has been tracking behavioral trends for years through its annual California Health Interview Survey, the largest state health survey in the nation. It includes questions about sexual activity. In 2021, the survey found, the number of young Californians ages 18 to 30 who reported having no sexual partners in the prior year reached a decade high of 38%. In 2011, 22% of young people reported having no sexual partners during the prior year, and the percentage climbed fairly steadily as the decade progressed.

California adults ages 35 to 50 who participated in UCLA’s 2021 survey also registered an increase in abstinence from 2011 to 2021. But with the percentage of “no sex” respondents rising from 9% to 14% during that time frame, the increase was not as pronounced.




The broader trend of young adults forgoing sex holds true nationally.

The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year, according to Jean Twenge, a San Diego State University psychology professor who reviewed the data for her book “Generations.”

In an age where hook-ups might seem as unlimited as a right swipe on a dating app, it’s easy to assume that Gen Z “should be having the time of their lives sexually,” Twenge said.

But that’s not how it’s playing out. Twenge said the decline has been underway for roughly two decades.

She attributed the slowdown in sexual relations most significantly to what she calls the “slow-life factor.” Young people just aren’t growing up as fast as they once did. They’re delaying big milestones such as getting their driver’s licenses and going to college. And they’re living at home with their parents a lot longer.

“In times and places where people live longer and education takes longer, the whole developmental trajectory slows down,” she said. “And so for teens and young adults, one place that you’re going to notice that is in terms of dating and romantic relationships and sexuality.”




A slight majority of 18- to 30-year-olds — about 52% — reported having one sexual partner in 2021, a decrease from 2020, according to the UCLA survey. The proportion of young adults who reported having two or more sexual partners also declined, from 23% in 2011 to 10% in 2021.

Though sex was on the decline in the years leading into the pandemic, COVID-19 made dating trickier.

Many people tightened their social circles when the pandemic surged in 2020 and 2021. And young people’s reliance on cellphones and apps for their social interactions only intensified when in-person meet-ups posed a risk of serious illness.

In general, people coming of age in an era of dating apps say the notion of starting a relationship with someone they meet in person — say a chance encounter at a bar or dance club — seems like a piece of nostalgia. Even friendships are increasingly forged over texting and video chats.

“A lot of young people when you talk to them will say their best friends are people they’ve never met,” said Jessica Borelli, a professor of psychological science at UC Irvine. “Sometimes they live across the country or in other countries, and yet they have these very intimate relationships with them. … The in-person interface is not nearly as essential for the development of intimacy as it might be for older people.”

Ivanna Zuniga, 22, who recently graduated from UC Irvine with a degree in psychological sciences, said her peers have largely delayed sex and romance to focus on education and career. Zuniga, who is bisexual, has been with her partner for about four years. But their sex life is sporadic, she said, adding that they hadn’t been intimate in the month leading up to her graduation.

“I’ve been really preoccupied with my studies, and I’m always stressed because of all the things I have going on,” she said. “My libido is always shot, and I don’t really ever think about sex.”

The sexless phenomenon has made its way into pop culture. Gone are the days when meet-cutes in bars leading to one-night stands and sex at college parties were the cornerstone of coupling in films.

In “No Hard Feelings,” released this year, a 32-year-old woman is hired by “helicopter parents” to deflower their shy 19-year-old son. At a party, the woman frantically searching for her date busts open bedroom doors where she expects to find people feverishly tangled in sheets. Instead, she finds teens sitting side by side on a bed, fully clothed, scrolling their phones or playing virtual reality games. Bemused, she yells, “Doesn’t anyone f— anymore?”

While there are practical benefits to waiting to be in a physical relationship, including less risk of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancy, Twenge argued that there are also downsides to young people eschewing sex and, more broadly, intimacy. Unhappiness and depression are at all-time highs among young adults, trend lines Twenge ties to the rise of smartphones and social media. And she noted with concern the steady decline in the birth rate.

“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system? Will there be enough young workers to take care of older people in nursing homes and in assisted-care facilities?”

Zuniga, who plans to pursue a doctorate in clinical psychology, can’t imagine pausing her education or career to have children, so safe sex is particularly important, she said. Others interviewed said “horror stories” involving friends who contracted herpes or other sexually transmitted infections had turned them off from casual sex.

“I prioritize my studies too much, and I can’t fathom the thought of having my identity as an academic fall secondary to being a mother,” Zuniga said. “Moving out of the income bracket that you’re born into is so hard to do, and a very secure way to do it is through education.”

For Rhodes, not having sex has taken a lot of the pressure off social interactions.

“It lets me relax,” she said. “It’s not that I don’t care about how I look or how I come off to other people. But I have a little extra help caring less about it, because I don’t have to worry about attracting specific kinds of people for specific things.”




And she pushes back against the notion that shying away from sex is some sort of societal problem that needs to be “fixed.” It might even be a sign that young people have more control of their bodies and desires, she said.

“Maybe you don’t have to have sex all the time,” Rhodes said. “Maybe if you’re doing other things in your life, and you’ve got other priorities, or you just don’t feel like it, that can be a good enough answer.”



the whole article summed up

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sauce of the original reasearch if you wanna read it without the journoscum blathering

 
Zuniga, who is bisexual

how is this relevant at all?
also

>22 year old college student in California
>bisexual


might as well report that water is wet.

“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system?

here lies the crux of the article. journo is scared that social security wont exist for them at retirement, so therefore zoomers need to have unwanted children to act as tax cattle. nothing but a farmer breeding more cattle for the slaughter.
 
“It creates the question of whether Social Security can survive,” Twenge said. “Will there be enough young workers to support older people in the system? Will there be enough young workers to take care of older people in nursing homes and in assisted-care facilities?”
There it is, that's the only reason it's a problem.
 
how is this relevant at all?
also

>22 year old college student in California
>bisexual


might as well report that water is wet.



here lies the crux of the article. journo is scared that social security wont exist for them at retirement, so therefore zoomers need to have unwanted children to act as tax cattle. nothing but a farmer breeding more cattle for the slaughter.
It reminded me of an old chinese response to journoscum about the question: what he thinks about the Chinese low birth rate? His response was when the sows don't get pregnant its not the sows are worried but the farmers that breeds them and the people who sell pig feed and related equipment. I lold so hard at that
 
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