Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

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For double coated breeds you really need to learn how to line brush your dog. Poodles and curly coats really do need daily brushing and at minimum monthly trips to a groomer. Unless you have the know how and tools to properly bathe these kinds of dogs at home, which most people don’t.
We have shelties. One day, before one was going to the vets, my mom spent an afternoon line brushing a dog from nose to tail. When she took the dog tho the vets the next day, the vet goes and runs her hand through the dog’s fur. Pauses at how fast her hands slide through. Looks at my mom and says “oh wow, you actually know how to brush a double coated breed.”
 
You can also get "I have a great mutt family/hunting/farm/whatever dog and I want another dog like this". They breed these dogs mainly for themselves and so actually do breeding work from thought out pairings and health checks to careful feeding and socializing. How rare this is depends on where you live and what's fasionable there.
There's a really cool breeding program for hunting dogs where they mix standard poodles (people forget they were bred for hunting water fowl and the 'silly' continental cut was to protect their joints from cold/injury while doing this task) and German short hair pointers. They're some of the most AWESOME dogs I've had the pleasure to work with. But because they're bred for a specific purpose they wont sell a puppy to anyone that doesn't pass their screenings. That's dog mixing done right.
People forget that a dogs temperament is encoded into their very genes.
Let's take the goldendoodle. The labradoodle too, just replace the golden with lab it's all the same point.
Sure goldens were originally bred as retriever dogs for hunting, same with poodles right? Sure. Maybe 50 or 40 years ago. Then they became the go to family dog and completely disintegrated their brains by destroying the gene pool. Dogs with actual hunting instincts were completely, utterly decimated by breeding for a good family temperament. Poodles on the other hand, at least when it comes to good breeders, were held to an intelligence standard and allowed to still do tasks.
So in comes the doodle. Most people when mixing dogs think 'oh this dog is x and this dog is y, put em together we get a dog with both x and y!!' But genetics is so much more complicated than that. You have 2 dogs with completely divergent genes, an aloof and independent well bred poodle (or a neurotic badly bred one, this worse but both bad.) And a completely dependant, food obsessed, retard of a dog the fucking golden as it stands today. What do you get? A confused dog that is prone to anxiety of all types, obesity, skeletal issues and a coat that can neither curl nor shed properly. Defeating the purpose of both breeds for something some people find cute.
There's also ungodly mixes like a German shepherd and corgi, (I've met 2 from the same 2 parents, the owners are asshole but they named them Frodo and Sam so... That's like half a point I guess. looks like the noble swedish valhund but with all shitty parts of the other 2.

To add to my first point and to end on a good note, there's also a lot of pug breeders breeding in jack russel to pugs to make them look more like their ancient ancestors. Now that's some mixing I can get behind.
 
All this weird Mengele breeding shit hits too close to home for me.

I have a male black lab that I pulled out of the woods, and had a little black mouth cur female ranch dog. They did the deed, my little cur got knocked up, blah blah blah. The rancher I bought the cur from undersold me on the age a bit, but bygones will be bygones.

Anyway, turns out that my little cur wasn't able to push everything out of her uterus, and by the time Mrs. Reprobate and I noticed that she wasn't feeling good, it was too late. Vomiting blood, shitting straight blood, it was horrendous. We had to put her down one week after she gave birth. I buried her, and then Mrs. Reprobate and I had to get to work. We hand fed seven puppies for a month, and then mushy food, and as of recently they are all eating dry food. Two of them have homes, and the other five will find good families.

I think now I actually have the time to think about my little cur, and mourn her a bit. Only had her for a year, and it is shit that I didn't notice her malady sooner. Wherever she is, I hope she sees the seven little hellions she left behind. They are chips off the old block, and Mrs. Reprobate and I love all of them.

Incidentally, if you are looking for a dog, slide into those dm's if you're anywhere near south central U.S.

This thread is as close as I get to actual MATI. These little guys don't know any better than what they're dealt, and it's shit.
 
All this weird Mengele breeding shit hits too close to home for me.

I have a male black lab that I pulled out of the woods, and had a little black mouth cur female ranch dog. They did the deed, my little cur got knocked up, blah blah blah. The rancher I bought the cur from undersold me on the age a bit, but bygones will be bygones.

Anyway, turns out that my little cur wasn't able to push everything out of her uterus, and by the time Mrs. Reprobate and I noticed that she wasn't feeling good, it was too late. Vomiting blood, shitting straight blood, it was horrendous. We had to put her down one week after she gave birth. I buried her, and then Mrs. Reprobate and I had to get to work. We hand fed seven puppies for a month, and then mushy food, and as of recently they are all eating dry food. Two of them have homes, and the other five will find good families.

I think now I actually have the time to think about my little cur, and mourn her a bit. Only had her for a year, and it is shit that I didn't notice her malady sooner. Wherever she is, I hope she sees the seven little hellions she left behind. They are chips off the old block, and Mrs. Reprobate and I love all of them.

Incidentally, if you are looking for a dog, slide into those dm's if you're anywhere near south central U.S.

This thread is as close as I get to actual MATI. These little guys don't know any better than what they're dealt, and it's shit.
pls dox pictures of the pups it's good eye bleach for this thread
 
All this weird Mengele breeding shit hits too close to home for me.

I have a male black lab that I pulled out of the woods, and had a little black mouth cur female ranch dog. They did the deed, my little cur got knocked up, blah blah blah. The rancher I bought the cur from undersold me on the age a bit, but bygones will be bygones.

Anyway, turns out that my little cur wasn't able to push everything out of her uterus, and by the time Mrs. Reprobate and I noticed that she wasn't feeling good, it was too late. Vomiting blood, shitting straight blood, it was horrendous. We had to put her down one week after she gave birth. I buried her, and then Mrs. Reprobate and I had to get to work. We hand fed seven puppies for a month, and then mushy food, and as of recently they are all eating dry food. Two of them have homes, and the other five will find good families.

I think now I actually have the time to think about my little cur, and mourn her a bit. Only had her for a year, and it is shit that I didn't notice her malady sooner. Wherever she is, I hope she sees the seven little hellions she left behind. They are chips off the old block, and Mrs. Reprobate and I love all of them.

Incidentally, if you are looking for a dog, slide into those dm's if you're anywhere near south central U.S.

This thread is as close as I get to actual MATI. These little guys don't know any better than what they're dealt, and it's shit.
God, I may be a purebred dogs r best asshat but FUCK if I was close.... I'd give your pups a home full of ducks to hang with and a warmed at night.

Edit: fixed typos and to add, lost my first dog as an adult to similar complicated birthing. Even having seen dogs give birth dozens of times, I still didn't realize how bad it was. Don't beat yourself up. Whelping pups alone is no easy task, Godspeed fellow kiwi.
 
pls dox pictures of the pups it's good eye bleach for this thread
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Turns out that black lab and blackmouth cur mix really well. They are all complete goobers.
 
All this weird Mengele breeding shit hits too close to home for me.

I have a male black lab that I pulled out of the woods, and had a little black mouth cur female ranch dog. They did the deed, my little cur got knocked up, blah blah blah. The rancher I bought the cur from undersold me on the age a bit, but bygones will be bygones.

Anyway, turns out that my little cur wasn't able to push everything out of her uterus, and by the time Mrs. Reprobate and I noticed that she wasn't feeling good, it was too late. Vomiting blood, shitting straight blood, it was horrendous. We had to put her down one week after she gave birth. I buried her, and then Mrs. Reprobate and I had to get to work. We hand fed seven puppies for a month, and then mushy food, and as of recently they are all eating dry food. Two of them have homes, and the other five will find good families.

I think now I actually have the time to think about my little cur, and mourn her a bit. Only had her for a year, and it is shit that I didn't notice her malady sooner. Wherever she is, I hope she sees the seven little hellions she left behind. They are chips off the old block, and Mrs. Reprobate and I love all of them.

Incidentally, if you are looking for a dog, slide into those dm's if you're anywhere near south central U.S.

This thread is as close as I get to actual MATI. These little guys don't know any better than what they're dealt, and it's shit.
How come she wasn't fixed? Too young?
 
How come she wasn't fixed? Too young?
When I bought her, her age was misrepresented. She hit maturity about a month earlier than I anticipated, and the rest is history. I bought her off of a rancher, so I don't think her exact age was his highest priority to keep track of, to be fair.
 
Since I'm in a "ranty" mood, I want to share something regarding this topic that has been eating at me. I'm truly MATIRL.

People that intentionally leave their animals intact are just as bad as people that BYB intentionally...and very often the people that do this just let their animals roam free too. Someone I know had a large mutt for many years, and refused to get him fixed. They would complain about him roaming, getting into fights with other loose dogs, and staying gone for days. We all say, "Well, get him fixed" but they use the classic "muh manhood" excuse and also don't want to pay the money to do it. They said, quote "I ain't tryna pay $80 for neutering." Yeah OK, maybe you shouldn't have a dog then? This isn't even the worst thing they said, brace yourself: they said that it should be the people who own the female dog(s) in heat that cause the male Fidos to roam who gets the dog(s) fixed. I said, "Yeah well maybe those people ain't 'tryna pay' $80 either, huh?" Don't remember the response I got.

Well this last time when their dog was gone for a few days (when they said the above comments), they found Rover dead on a roadside. Guess what! I have ZERO SYMPATHY (for them, not the dog)! Neutering him would've greatly nerfed the instinct to roam and he would've cared less about any wandering strays in heat. You also could've gotten at least an electric fence. Your dog died because of your neglect. Won't pay a one-time fee of maybe $80 but you'll buy shit from Temu all day, won't you? Negative 500 brain cells.

I have a coworker like this as well. Why are you acting shocked and inconvenienced at your dog for doing shit that intact dogs do when it's a simple fix? What do you seriously expect? It's not an "accidental litter" if it's the fifth time it's happened. TBF this coworker also used to backyard breed shitbulls unironically so I guess I shouldn't expect common sense from her.
 
Since I'm in a "ranty" mood, I want to share something regarding this topic that has been eating at me. I'm truly MATIRL.

People that intentionally leave their animals intact are just as bad as people that BYB intentionally...and very often the people that do this just let their animals roam free too. Someone I know had a large mutt for many years, and refused to get him fixed. They would complain about him roaming, getting into fights with other loose dogs, and staying gone for days. We all say, "Well, get him fixed" but they use the classic "muh manhood" excuse and also don't want to pay the money to do it. They said, quote "I ain't tryna pay $80 for neutering." Yeah OK, maybe you shouldn't have a dog then? This isn't even the worst thing they said, brace yourself: they said that it should be the people who own the female dog(s) in heat that cause the male Fidos to roam who gets the dog(s) fixed. I said, "Yeah well maybe those people ain't 'tryna pay' $80 either, huh?" Don't remember the response I got.

Well this last time when their dog was gone for a few days (when they said the above comments), they found Rover dead on a roadside. Guess what! I have ZERO SYMPATHY (for them, not the dog)! Neutering him would've greatly nerfed the instinct to roam and he would've cared less about any wandering strays in heat. You also could've gotten at least an electric fence. Your dog died because of your neglect. Won't pay a one-time fee of maybe $80 but you'll buy shit from Temu all day, won't you? Negative 500 brain cells.

I have a coworker like this as well. Why are you acting shocked and inconvenienced at your dog for doing shit that intact dogs do when it's a simple fix? What do you seriously expect? It's not an "accidental litter" if it's the fifth time it's happened. TBF this coworker also used to backyard breed shitbulls unironically so I guess I shouldn't expect common sense from her.
you could probably genuinely get her arrested or at least banned from owning animals or some shit if you snitch, im pretty sure backyard breeding is very illegal
 
they use the classic "muh manhood" excuse and also don't want to pay the money to do it. They said, quote "I ain't tryna pay $80 for neutering."
God, I'm in Canada and that is damn cheap here, even at a low income clinic. I know someone who has to pay over 200 at a low income vet clinic because one of his balls is inside.
 
you could probably genuinely get her arrested or at least banned from owning animals or some shit if you snitch, im pretty sure backyard breeding is very illegal
If you're referring to my coworker, she's not BYB shitbulls anymore AFAIK (if she was I'm sure she'd be hyping the puppies up at work). That happened before I worked there.

I don't think BYB is illegal unless you develop a full scale puppy mill and then neglect the hell out of the animals (seems to go hand in hand). I'm not sure what threshold one has to reach before their BYB is considered a puppy mill. If it was illegal there'd be a lot more people in jail and a lot less animals in shelters. On the other hand nobody is going to bother charging and prosecuting a BYB when there's people doing shit like robbing pharmacies at gunpoint and beating their kids.
 
I don't think BYB is illegal unless you develop a full scale puppy mill and then neglect the hell out of the animals (seems to go hand in hand). I'm not sure what threshold one has to reach before their BYB is considered a puppy mill
Looking at my local regulations, the only thing that's strictly illegal would be going by number of dogs on a property within city limits. There's probably more you could get them on, but like you said, you're trying to convince the police to care, when it's something that only affects the neighbors (and the poor dogs).
 
Here's a badly bred German Shepard that was dumped at a rescue by a breeder who couldn't sell him.
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His hocks and pasterns are weak and all his paws are upturned. He looks like a kangaroo. The incorrect gait must absolutely destroy his hips; they're already prone to hip dysplasia.
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If it tightens up with exercise does that mean all the adult show dogs are not getting proper exercise?
 
Anything to do with animal suffering makes me very upset, and I've always hated breeders and pet stores. Something about profiting from the offspring of pet animals (as opposed to livestock) rubs me the wrong way, in the extreme. This thread makes me MATI like nothing else. The man-made mutants I've seen in this thread are horrors beyond my comprehension: TOTAL BREEDER DEATH
 
I have a bit of my own nightmare-breeding story myself in the realm of cats. While cats are not physically deformed to as much of an extreme as dogs often are, there are usually issues within and many breeds are extremely inbred since most cat breeds are relatively new in the scheme of things; the vast majority only came about in the late 1800s and 1900s. Very few have any real history to them, and the ones that do are landraces that managed to develop a distinct trait (the colorpoint pattern in Siamese for example, or the shiny solid gray coats of Russian Blue).

Growing up my mom got two miniature Persian cats. They were created by crossing Persians with munchkins to keep a kitten like appearance (munchkins are basically just cats with dwarfism treated like a distinct "breed" for some ungodly reason) and while they didn't have the fully flat faces they still had shortened noses and breathing issues. The breeder also would inbreed the fuck out of them. My mom never brushed them so their coats were always getting tangled and eventually I took the grooming on myself. She also never spayed the female so the cat would always go into heat and howl all night until her little voice was hoarse and scratchy. Anyway when she got the male (poor guy was so fucked up he couldn't meow normally at all, he would open his mouth and only make a strangled half-squeak noise no matter how hard he tried, and would huff and wheeze all the time) a few years after getting the female he immediately knocked her up. The kittens were born premature and one was stillborn, the other died soon after because she couldn't digest food properly and choked to death on her own spit up. Mom finally neutered him but never spayed the poor female.

My grandma also had two cats from that same breeder, them as well as our female didn't make it past age 13. Meanwhile common domestic cats regularly make it to 20. The male is still kicking at my mom's house but he's 12 and I'm afraid his time may be soon. When I moved out on my own and got two mutt shorthairs I got them spayed as early as possible, the difference between them and the Persians are night and day. I didn't think it was even possible for cats to be that energetic and lively since my only experience beforehand was the persians who could hardly run around and play for a few minutes without getting winded.

Designer animal breeding was a mistake. I'd go so far as to say there is no reason to selectively breed cats, other than to preserve recessive color patterns and the few actually old historical breeds such as Siamese (the ancient Thai "applehead" type, not the modern extreme "wedgehead" types you see now). As working animals they only are used to control rodents and any basic street cat can do that.
 
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