US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[RybenZ999]

Kind of off topic here but anyone really hate that MTG hag? Even setting aside her beef with this site, I find her one of the least likable public figures ever. She's like a walking shrill dumb bimbo stereotype. Same with that Boebert woman though I guess I dislike her a tad less.

 

[make_it_so]

Kind of off topic here but anyone really hate that MTG hag? Even setting aside her beef with this site, I find her one of the least likable public figures ever. She's like a walking shrill dumb bimbo stereotype. Same with that Boebert woman though I guess I dislike her a tad less.

They're both more than a bit lolcowish on their own, yes.

But to paraphrase Lincoln "I cannot spare these twats, they fight."

 

[Gorillion others]

According to gossip, they have a problem in that they have completely purged the Secret Service around the Bidens, monitoring their texts and their families, and bouncing anyone who might leak anything.

The problem being that they have now purged the competent hard men, leaving snivelling true believers who actually aren’t good enough to be protecting the President of the United States, but they also can’t talk about it or solve the problem they can’t acknowledge. Another brilliant move, Lizard People!

No way to know if it’s true, but I heard it from some Bongino connected accounts for what it’s worth.

I think the current Joe Biden is essentially a shell - a guy who, when having clarity, really doesn't want to be there (his actions indicate this), but has to be because he was the sock-puppet the American Deep-State/Oligarchy alliance decided upon in 2019/2020 as the best candidate to serve as a surrogate for rolling back Bad Orange Man's policies and getting everything back to "the way things are supposed to be."

"Hahaha, stupid conspiracy theorists. Biden is the smertest than all of us combined. All is fine! You dumb!" - Retards on Xitter.

 

[clipartfan92]

The problem being that they have now purged the competent hard men, leaving snivelling true believers who actually aren’t good enough to be protecting the President of the United States

It does seem that way. There was that incident in December where the drunk negro wrecked into a SS SUV about 20 yards away from Biden. The agents who were handling Biden seemed to freeze up. They would have been totally fucked if that was a VBIED instead of some drunk.

edit: It actually looks about 10 yards away

 

[The Taco Santo!]

You don't have to deal with your opponents' legal defenses if no one will take their case but brain-dead public defenders. And if you keep your lawfare confined to civil cases, you don't have to worry about them either.

 

[Betonhaus]

According to gossip, they have a problem in that they have completely purged the Secret Service around the Bidens, monitoring their texts and their families, and bouncing anyone who might leak anything.

The problem being that they have now purged the competent hard men, leaving snivelling true believers who actually aren’t good enough to be protecting the President of the United States, but they also can’t talk about it or solve the problem they can’t acknowledge. Another brilliant move, Lizard People!

No way to know if it’s true, but I heard it from some Bongino connected accounts for what it’s worth.

Yeah see, I have not heard any gossip or anything like that, it's just that blatantly obvious. I didn't think the entire Secret Service would be purged of good men, but it's not like anyone wants to make him a martyr - and America's enemies actually WANT him to stay in power. The right learned from J6 so the only people crazy enough to try are too dumb to get remotely close to him. Probably.

 

[clipartfan92]

Nothing to see here, move along...

DOJ report on Biden classified documents coming soon; no criminal charges
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Devlin Barrett and Perry Stein
2024-02-07 02:18:47GMT

Spoiler

The Justice Department is preparing to release a special counsel report in coming days that is critical of President Biden and his aides for mishandling classified documents in Biden’s private home and former office, but prosecutors do not plan to pursue criminal charges in the case.

The long-awaited decision by special counsel Robert K. Hur will probably roil the presidential contest as Republicans seek to paint Biden as a criminal — and as Donald Trump, the president’s likely GOP rival for the White House, faces trial for allegedly keeping boxes of classified papers at his Florida home and obstructing officials’ attempts to retrieve them.

While the facts of the Biden case appear to have major differences from the Trump case, Hur’s conclusions are likely to face intense scrutiny from Republicans in Congress.

Officials have been planning to release the report as early as this week, though prosecutors could decide to push it back, according to people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe still-secret plans for the release. A spokesman for Hur declined to comment.

In recent weeks, the report has been reviewed by intelligence officials to navigate how much to reveal about the classified materials found in 2022 at Biden’s Wilmington, Del., home and his former office, given that the report must be sent to Congress and released to the public. The documents in question dated to Biden’s time as vice president during the Obama administration.

Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed Hur in January 2023 after aides to Biden found the sensitive government materials. The discovery came as a separate special counsel was investigating Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents — an investigation that led to 40 federal criminal charges against Trump, including willful retention of national defense secrets and obstruction of justice.

Garland said at the time that special counsels were necessary because both Trump and Biden had indicated they would be running for president in 2024.

Biden was interviewed at the White House by Hur over a two-day period in early October — even as his administration grappled with the outbreak of the Israel-Gaza war. Dozens of current and former Biden staffers, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken and former White House chief of staff Ron Klain, were interviewed as part of the investigation.

Some aides to the president have expressed frustration that Hur’s investigation lingered on for months after the Biden interview. The aides spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

In announcing the Biden interview, a White House spokesman said the president and the White House “are cooperating with this investigation” and pledged to be “as transparent as we can consistent with protecting and preserving the integrity of the investigation.”

Hur is a former U.S. attorney from Maryland who had held other posts in Trump’s Justice Department. He took leave from his private firm to lead the Biden investigation. Special counsels have more independence from Justice Department leaders than other federal prosecutors, but they ultimately answer to the attorney general.

In addition to deciding whether to seek criminal charges, special counsels are required to file a confidential report to the attorney general explaining their decisions. In recent special counsel matters, the bulk of those reports have been released publicly, albeit with some redactions for sensitive information. Hur’s investigation had cost taxpayers nearly $3.5 million as of Sept. 30, according to a report released in January.

Investigating a sitting president and his aides is a fraught exercise, in part because Justice Department policy maintains that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime. However, Biden’s aides could have been charged, if the special counsel found proof of criminal wrongdoing.

Based on what is publicly known about the two classified-documents probes, the Trump investigation seems significantly different from the Biden investigation. The number of documents involved in the Biden probe appears far smaller — 20 or so in Biden’s case, compared with roughly 300 for Trump.

Perhaps more importantly, federal prosecutors came to suspect Trump was deliberately misleading them and hiding some highly sensitive papers even after he received a grand jury subpoena demanding their return. Biden has said that he cooperated with investigators and handed over the documents as soon as they were discovered.

In the early stages of the Biden investigation, however, the seemingly slow pace of his lawyers’ searches and document discoveries raised concerns among federal law enforcement officials, the people familiar with the matter said.

Showing willful intent to mishandle national security secrets is often a key factor in charging decisions involving classified papers.

Trump is accused of deliberately trying to mislead investigators as they demanded the government documents back. He is scheduled to stand trial on those charges in Fort Pierce, Fla., in May, although the judge in the case has suggested there may be delays as prosecutors and defense attorneys work their way through the complicated legal procedures for trials involving classified evidence.

Trump, who is closing in on the Republican presidential nomination, faces three other criminal trials: federal charges in D.C. and state charges in Georgia for allegedly seeking to block the 2020 election results, and a state trial in New York for allegedly falsifying business records in connection with hush money payments during the 2016 election.

About 10 documents from Biden’s time as vice president were found Nov. 2, 2022, when lawyers for Biden were cleaning out his private office at the Washington-based Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, a think tank Biden started with the University of Pennsylvania after his tenure as vice president.

Attorney Pat Moore found the documents in a small closet and called White House lawyers, who contacted the National Archives and Records Administration, the federal agency responsible for storing and preserving presidential records.

The Justice Department soon launched an assessment to determine if any laws might have been broken in the matter. John Lausch, the U.S. attorney in Chicago and a Trump administration holdover, oversaw the initial investigation.

In December 2022, legal representatives for Biden searched his home in Wilmington, Del., and found a “small number” of records with classified markings in the garage, the White House has said. In January, lawyers found another potential record with classified markings at the Wilmington residence, in a room adjacent to the garage.

Biden’s vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, Del., also was searched, but no classified material was found there, the White House has said.

Biden’s personal attorneys arranged for the Justice Department to take possession of the material. Soon after, Lausch told Garland that a special counsel appointment was warranted, and Hur was appointed.

Former vice president Mike Pence searched his properties around the same time and found potentially sensitive government materials. Federal investigators looked into that situation as well, but they closed their investigation in June without charges.

Biden aides, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation, have said they believe the documents unintentionally ended up at Biden’s home and office because of sloppy staff work.

 

[AnotherPleb]

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Where's the benefit for Americans, you dumb fuck?

The left wants people to use the nuclear option.

They want people to almost use that option in a way that they can seize control. The true nuclear option involves sudden changes in the Minecraft server that the mods can't roll back.

PRESIDENT

KAMALA

HARRIS

...for like, a few months to a year

The fact that they haven't taken this option shows that Kamala Harris is too toxic to be granted the First Female President title.

This shit is a lot scarier than just 1 crashing plane. Nothing is supposed to get signed off on an aircraft until multiple sets of eyes have verified the work. The worker does the job according to the pubs. The collateral duty inspector checks the work and signs it off. Then a QA inspector comes behind the CDI to make sure they inspected it properly. The worker comes back and closes all the panels around the job, double checking that no tools or debris were left inside the airframe. There can be more sign offs required above QA but that's usually only for certain jobs.

For this to fly, a minimum of 3 people, at least 2 having inspection qualifications, had to blow it off. I can't stress enough how strict the aerospace industry is and something like this getting through is egregious. If someone dies and it goes back to the mechanic or inspectors ignoring pubs, they can be held liable and thrown in prison.

Calling it now, this shit handled thanks to diversity hires that know they're untouchable.

That’s a lot of billions:

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It's truly heartwarming to see 2 political parties that are normally in complete opposition to one another come together in times of crisis and make the decisive choice of sending billions of dollars to countries that are in the other side of the planet, the border might be as secure as a bike without a bike lock in a black neighbourhood but that doesn't matter, what matters is that Raytheon executives need a new yacht and by God are they going to have it.

Politicians will always come across the aisle to vote for more money for themselves.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

DOJ report on Biden classified documents coming soon; no criminal charges

You see, they investigated themselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing. But they’ll continue prosecuting Trump for the exact same thing.

The entire corrupt DOJ needs to be burned to the ground. And not in Minecraft - a literal, actual nuke needs to be dropped in Washington DC.

 

[pwnest injun]

I think the current Joe Biden is essentially a shell - a guy who, when having clarity, really doesn't want to be there (his actions indicate this), but has to be because he was the sock-puppet the American Deep-State/Oligarchy alliance decided upon in 2019/2020 as the best candidate to serve as a surrogate for rolling back Bad Orange Man's policies and getting everything back to "the way things are supposed to be."

He's like a POW being paraded around to read statements meant to demoralize the nation and praise his captors. I bet if he tried to run, they'd shoot him.

 

[The Ugly One]

Well, they need to hurry up. The aforementioned Julie Kelly also pointed out that all those "ethics complaints" against conservative lawyers, judges, and AGs are disingenuous lawfare, intended to enventually ensure no Chud or wrongthinker ever has adequate legal representation.

They want you to have public defenders who will only offer the option of a doubleplusguilty plea.

ETA: My mistake, that was Joy Pullmann, not Julie Kelly.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/02/05/democrats-work-to-strip-all-opponents-of-representation-in-court/

Similarly massive asymmetries appear throughout this domain, said Andrew Kloster, general counsel to Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and a former Trump administration lawyer: “The left has a 10-1 nonprofit advantage,” he said, noting career opportunities are limited for openly conservative lawyers due to far-left bias at most large law firms. Democrats have developed a large legal infrastructure that funds policy work, fellowships for law students and young litigators, and free defense for criminals and agitators on the left — often with public bucks.

“People are taken care of on the left. On the right, not so much. We don’t have the defensive advantage, and we don’t have the offensive appetite,” Kloster said.

That's weird, I was assured that once those kids got into the real world and started paying taxes, they would become conservatives, not start organizing legal teams to destroy our ability to even engage in the political process.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

I recently had a very realistic dream where Iranians set off a nuke in DC and the whole country just kinda shrugged it off and decided not to retaliate.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I recently had a very realistic dream where Iranians set off a nuke in DC and the whole country just kinda shrugged it off and decided not to retaliate.

If Iran nuked NYC I'd be livid that Iran didn't hit LA first.

 

[The Ugly One]

Its in their rulebook. Beautiful Trouble. Your reaction is their real action. They beg your action by making conditions unbearable that force someone or people to snap. Then they can act in kind like they wanted to act all along.

Exactly. What they want is to kill us all. Look at what they say when they think we're not listening. They call us enemies of everything right and good. We're oppressors. We're obsolete. They fantasize about us starting a civil war so they can go immediately to dropping nukes on civilian populations that vote red. They don't even talk about it as some kind of last resort, usually, they talk about it as step one. They want you dead, your children raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

They fantasize about us starting a civil war so they can go immediately to dropping nukes on civilian populations that vote red.

Yet another way this future isn't going so great so far.

IIRC, US politics were not this bad before Current Year.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

That's weird, I was assured that once those kids got into the real world and started paying taxes, they would become conservatives, not start organizing legal teams to destroy our ability to even engage in the political process.

The thing they never tell you is the age when they turn conservative is much older - usually after their own choices have helped mess them up

 

[The Nothingness]

They failed to fund Israel.

Apparently the Freedom Caucus told the Neocons to fuck off.

I briefly tuned in to Mark Levin's show last night and then when he started giving out to the Republicans who didn't suck Hebrew dick, I changed the station.

 

[Betonhaus]

That's weird, I was assured that once those kids got into the real world and started paying taxes, they would become conservatives, not start organizing legal teams to destroy our ability to even engage in the political process.

You are making the assumptions that these kids are in the real world and are paying taxes.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

I briefly tuned in to Mark Levin's show last night and then when he started giving out to the Republicans who didn't suck Hebrew dick, I changed the station.

mark levin is a dirty kike, so of course he would. He's a kike first and an American second.

 

[Overly Serious]

It does seem that way. There was that incident in December where the drunk negro wrecked into a SS SUV about 20 yards away from Biden. The agents who were handling Biden seemed to freeze up. They would have been totally fucked if that was a VBIED instead of some drunk.

edit: It actually looks about 10 yards away

Does it matter? The worst thing America's enemies can do right now it not assassinate the president. Yes, if he dies that means the Hyena is now in charge. But honestly, either way you lose. If you truly hate America, Biden is your dream president.