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No matter how much you hate them just remember that they hate you a lot more.
I've noticed a lot of these hawkey politicians in the federal government are almost always Senators, and I suppose it make sense: Senate terms are six years long, and these people make a career out of it. They've been there since GWOT and probably even before that. They think they can run the same thing on people now, even without a 9/11 style ralling cry among the general population.
 
Majority of voters view VP Harris negatively, NBC poll shows
The National Desk (archive.ph)
By Ray Lewis
2024-02-07 16:48:00GMT
Topline results PDF (archive.org)
WASHINGTON (TND) — A majority of U.S. voters view Vice President Kamala Harris negatively, according to a recent NBC News survey.

A combined 53% of respondents regarded the vice president poorly in the poll released Sunday, representing a 7% increase over the past year. A "very negative" view is held by 42% of respondents and 11% said they hold a "somewhat negative" view of Harris.

Comparatively, 28% percent of voters have a positive opinion of Harris.

“If I listened to polls, I would have never run for my first office or probably my second or third for that matter,” Harris told Katie Couric last month. “I only put so much stock in polls.”

In the days prior to the 2020 presidential election, 42% of voters viewed Harris positively.

Harris recently admitted she and President Joe Biden have struggled to inform Americans of the administration’s achievements, arguing voters would appreciate the accomplishments if they learned more about them.

“We have a lot of accomplishments, and I think what the American people want most in their leaders is that we actually get things done, and we have done it,” Harris remarked. “We haven’t taken adequate credit for it, frankly, and we've got to do a better job of getting the word out.”

She cited the administration’s permission for Medicare to negotiate drug prices and limits of annual drug costs for senior citizens as actions Americans could celebrate.

“We have historic accomplishments in terms of the economy – what we’ve done to move forward – science, technology and investment in the American workforce, growing the American workforce, rising wages, bringing down prices,” Harris said. “It is incumbent on us to let people know who brought it to them.”

Biden also received low opinions in the NBC News survey. More than 50% of respondents said they view him negatively, while 36% see him in a positive light. The results contrast with the president's figures from January 2020, when 42% of voters had a negative opinion of him.

Biden has dismissed polls showing an unfavorable standing for him in the presidential race, arguing several show he is winning. In November, the president provided donors with data proving his case and stated some media outlets do not read the surveys.

“Ten polls. Eight of them, I’m beating [Trump] in those states,” Biden said, according to POLITICO. “You guys only do two, CNN and New York Times.”

The NBC News survey shows 62% of Biden’s voters are casting their ballot more against former President Donald Trump, while 31% are placing it more for the incumbent president.
 
So how much electability do you think Biden could curry by dropping Kopmala's dead weight?

I think my least favorite thing about her is her plainly disingenuous affect.
They'd lose favor because the most rabid devotees would whine and screech about a white man removing a woman of color from power. Also it doesn't matter who they replace her with, Biden is poison in the ballot boxes.
 
So how much electability do you think Biden could curry by dropping Kopmala's dead weight?

I think my least favorite thing about her is her plainly disingenuous affect.
No one who wasn't already going to vote Democrat is going to change their vote simply because he drops Kamala and gives it to someone else one way or the other. The people have almost completely divided themselves into one side or the other.
 
No one who wasn't already going to vote Democrat is going to change their vote simply because he drops Kamala and gives it to someone else one way or the other. The people have almost completely divided themselves into one side or the other.
I think its possible he could bolster blue votes that might otherwise stay home by dropping 'Mala and picking up a different minority VP.

You guys are probably right that it wouldn't be hugely impactful though.
 
Goddam, that's gotta fucking hurt.
Well she wasn't such a ghoulish cunt she'd be more popular. As much as I give Tulsi grief I do love how she curb-stomped Kamala in 2019 by exposing how much of a hypocritical fraud she is.
And she can barely formulate coherent thoughts. A downs syndrome kid could do a better job at public speaking than she can.
 
I think its possible he could bolster blue votes that might otherwise stay home by dropping 'Mala and picking up a different minority VP.

You guys are probably right that it wouldn't be hugely impactful though.
I don't think they can really do much of a change.
The people that are not voting for Biden now would be very untrusting of major shakeups. The people that are voting for Biden may realize that there is something very wrong (and that the critics were right) if they suddenly start making such dramatic changes.

It's like some sort of misinformation singularity where their only choice is to lie to protect their lies otherwise everything falls apart.
 
I think its possible he could bolster blue votes that might otherwise stay home by dropping 'Mala and picking up a different minority VP.

You guys are probably right that it wouldn't be hugely impactful though.

I don't think they can really do much of a change.
The people that are not voting for Biden now would be very untrusting of major shakeups. The people that are voting for Biden may realize that there is something very wrong (and that the critics were right) if they suddenly start making such dramatic changes.

It's like some sort of misinformation singularity where their only choice is to lie to protect their lies otherwise everything falls apart.
As long as Trump is the runner against the Democrats, Joe Biden could appoint a horse as his VP Candidate and people who are on the Blue Side of the Fence will still vote Democrat. I would say that this election, more than the last two, aren't going to involve a lot of people "staying home" one way or another, and as I said before I don't believe for a second that there is a single American who hasn't made their choice already one way or the other. Neither Biden nor Trump are "unknown quantities" and at this point if you support one, you believe the Other Side is basically living in a different, alternate, and false reality.
 
I know all of this has been said before, but holy shit. If Biden is that incoherent and obviously struggling during his public appearances, imagine how bad he is off camera. Dementia runs in my family and I'm acutely aware of how it steals the person away and replaces them with an angry, scared husk of a man towards the end. The fact that they can keep all of the leaks about his private behavior this close to the vest is terrifying. Usually there would at least be rumors and whispers leaking out but there's nothing. I know they're surrounded by true believers, but I find it hard to comprehend that every single person that interacts with him can remain silent about it.

Never forget the power of wanting to live to see the end of the decade.
 
Everyone who screamed about Texas going against SCOTUS (they didn't) will be awfully quiet about this. Hawaii Judges are more privileged than a 5/10 white woman from an upper middle class family.

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If the state of Hawaii doesn't want to recognize Supreme Court decisions, then I'm sure they won't mind other states deciding they won't recognize Obergefell v. Hodges and Texas v. White.
 
Everyone who screamed about Texas going against SCOTUS (they didn't) will be awfully quiet about this. Hawaii Judges are more privileged than a 5/10 white woman from an upper middle class family.

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This is when hopefully saner heads in Hawaii back down and say "uh, no, we're not going to try this after all."

Can the SCOTUS disbar the Hawaiian judges that ruled on this, or...? I mean outside of the whole social construct thing keeping Judges from doing this (which the left has increasingly decided in recent years only applies when it's to force the rest of the country to obey a lefty in power) what's the solution here? "SCOTUS says we can't do this but we think they're wrong" -- what the hell do you do with this as a defendant or a lawyer? Or when they try to punish you for breaking a law the SCOTUS explicitly invalidated?

This is a problem that's just going to get more severe as the lowered Bar and Law School standards conflate with the marxists' activism. So we need a solution that doesn't involve [FEDPOST REDACTED], and fast.
 
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