Science Carbon footprint of homegrown food five times greater than those grown conventionally - clown world, just clown world , we are in clown world

The study found individual garden infrastructure responsible for increased levels of CO2
Growing your own food in an allotment may not be as good for the environment as expected, a study suggests.
The carbon footprint of homegrown foods is five times greater than produce from conventional agricultural practices, such as rural farms, data show.
A study from the University of Michigan looked at how much CO2 was produced when growing food in different types of urban farms and found that, on average, a serving of food made from traditional farms creates 0.07kg of CO2.
The impact on the environment is almost five times higher at 0.34kg per portion for individual gardens, such as vegetable patches or allotments.
The majority of the emissions do not come from the growing of the food themselves, the scientists say, but from the infrastructure needed to allow the food to be grown.
Researchers grouped urban agriculture sites into three categories: individual or family gardens, including allotments; collective gardens, such as community gardens; and larger, commercial-orientated urban farms.

Jake Hawes, a PhD candidate at Michigan and first author of the study, said: “The most significant contributor to carbon emissions on the urban agriculture sites we studied was the infrastructure used to grow the food – from raised beds to garden sheds to pathways, these constructions had a lot of carbon invested in their construction.
Poorly managed compost and other synthetic inputs can also be important contributors, though they were not the majority on most of our sites.”


The study, published in the journal Nature Cities, recruited 73 urban agriculture sites around the world, including Europe, the US, and the UK, and conducted a comprehensive life cycle assessment on the site’s infrastructure, irrigation and supplies.
Fruit was found to be 8.6 times more eco-friendly when grown conventionally compared to in a city, whereas vegetables were 5.8 times better for the environment when left to the professionals.
But some crops have a lower carbon footprint than others and can help green-fingered members of the public make their allotment or garden better for the environment.

Tomatoes grown domestically, for example, have a lower carbon footprint than conventional farming, as does asparagus.
A serving of urban tomatoes makes, on average, 0.17kg of CO2, compared to 0.27kg in a conventional farm which would use an energy-intensive greenhouse.
Likewise asparagus, which is most often flown in from abroad and thousands of air miles, is a source of large carbon emissions if grown conventionally.

“We find that urban farmers and gardeners can reduce their net impact by focusing on foods that are high-carbon in conventional agriculture,” Mr Hawes said.
“Two examples of this that we identify are greenhouse-grown crops, including many tomatoes, and crops that are often flown in from across the planet, such as asparagus.”
The scientists also found that they can make their garden and at-home farming better for the environment by repairing their infrastructure as much as possible and not replacing it unless absolutely necessary.
Two-thirds of the carbon footprint of allotments is created by the garden itself, data show, and building it to endure tough winters for several years can reduce the impact.
Gardeners should also try and build their site with recycled or second-hand materials, wherever possible, with emissions being cut by more than half if waste from other parts of a city were upcycled for the beds and sheds, for example.
This study was published in the journal Nature Cities


 
An interesting response to this article by someone who actually bothered to look into the science this article cites (Spoiler the article is sensational bullshit)

I can't take a man with a penis plushy seriously.

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The airgun I use for pest control out in my garden, is powered by C02.
What happens to the rabbits and squirrels?
Lunch and dinner?

Just for thinking I'm that stupid and that much of a sheep, I'm gonna take the pots and soil I had left over when I moved my growing houseplants to larger homes and purposely start growing bell peppers in them just to piss you off......
Start off with something like green onion, the growing time is much shorter on them.
You can have dozens of stems in a matter of weeks.
They make a great topping for certain soups, meats, and seafood.

Or try goldenberries. Get a box of them and then save the seeds.
That is how I started my goldenberry bush in high school.

home kitchens, both electric and conventional ones
You are late to the party, comrade!
But better late than never!
Kick China in the dick unless they stop polluting like they do.
When the chicoms shut down factories during WuFlu, the smog around Beijing and other industrial cities actually cleared up and you could see the sky for once.

penis plushy
Overcompensation for that micropenis, I would wager.

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I feel like this poster seems more relevant than ever.
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Do your part to help defeat judeo-bolshevism! Dig for Victory!
 
Still waiting on the day for the teeming masses to realize how quickly we could all return to a decent standard of living if the mobs would just storm the compounds of these self appointed nobles, drag them into the streets and bludgeon them to death
 
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"Carbon" = expense. Energy. work. money. It's all the same thing. It literally costs more to garden at home. It just does. If it didn't, if it was cheaper, everyone would have a little profitable home garden and the big guys would be out of business. Economies of scale save money. Always.
..what?

Gardening at home costs pennies on the dollar and is only made expensive if people chase trendy gardening setups, grow things outside of what naturally thrives in their zone/climate, or go for some god awful monoculture setup that attracts swarms of pests.

In fact, after some very relatively minor expenses in initial setup:

It involves no extremely expensive tractors/implements​
It involves no lab-developed pesticides being deployed​
No special lab-developed namebrand SEED™​
No chemical fertilizers (you produce all you'll ever need for a normie-tier home garden via food scraps, leaves/grass clippings/etc, and decaying post-season garden plants)​
No extremely wasteful govt subsidies keeping farmers shackled to growing the worst possible shit​
No monstrous polluting logistics system to haul said equipment/chemicals or the harvest around​
No/Minimal raping of the earth (draining/destroying natural ecosystems, tiling systems, etc)​
And that's just to name some of 'em.​
Do you really think that shit has less "carbon footprint" than simple home gardening? Are we living in the same reality?

The reason you don't see it more is because people have been convinced that it's "easier" to go to the supermarket and buy shit that could grow in their yard. Surely you or anyone else around here is well aware that people can be convinced of participating in an activity that is completely counter-productive to themselves via mass/social media, societal pressure, etc?
 
Don't have a rabbit problem, it's mainly squirrels. I don't care for squirrel myself, but the local predators love them. The bears and foxes get a free snack whenever I dispatch one in the garden or one trying to get into my attic or garage.
That is fair.
I had a rabbit problem with my goldenberry bush and some other vegetables my mother was growing at the same time (bok choy and pak choy I think). So I went and got a little pistol crossbow and some hard rubber blunt heads.
The rabbits stopped coming after the 6th one ended up on the dinner table. I think one of them saw its friend/girlfriend get KOed by my blunt head before I konked it with a truncheon and took it away to be skinned and prepped for dinner.
I use a crossbow because its quiet, low profile, and generally unrestricted in maple leaf land.

You know, now that you speak of it, I do recall that Mepps (a fishing lure company) has a certain policy where you can send them squirrel tails for money or fishing lures. Only works if you live in the States though.

Gardening at home costs pennies on the dollar and is only made expensive if people chase trendy gardening setups, grow things outside of what naturally thrives in their zone/climate, or go for some god awful monoculture setup that attracts swarms of pests.
If your great-grandparents could do it successfully using literal pennies in WW2, so can you.

This reads like a Stonetoss comic
His comics read like prophecy.
 
World War 2 victory gardens were to make people feel better, not to produce meaningful calories.

Again, if lower inputs were required per kilogram of usable food produced, big agriculture would also use your low input home methods. Over time those methods deplete soil and you have to bring in new nutrients. There are also huge pest issues that become more of a problem the larger your garden gets.

Typically people who say their gardens are very low cost and productive simply don't take their own externalities into account. The people I've seen who tried to avoid pesticides and other inputs have very, very low yields most years. Most "permaculture" type gardeners nope out of the endeavor after a few years of seeing bugs and critters take most of their haul. Whole lot of idealistic hippies planting "food forests" only to find out that the local vermin and fauna also see it as an all-you-can-eat buffet, and they're willing to eat it before it's ripe.
 
World War 2 victory gardens were to make people feel better, not to produce meaningful calories.
Well sure, having the tiny portion of food available from the shops PLUS some veg from the garden would make a person feel better.

Everytime I see "carbon is bad and must be reduced!" I stop and remember that humans are carbon, and I wonder what they're really telling us.

I'm planning to put in a few extra Roma tomato plants come spring. They produce like mad, make small snack-sized tomatoes and are THE perfect thing for sauces.
 
Again, if lower inputs were required per kilogram of usable food produced, big agriculture would also use your low input home methods.
Define inputs, for one.

Two: the point was never to grow at a scale comparable to farmers growing half-poisoned garbage to stuff into processed foods for your average consumer. It was to grow nutrient-dense, delicious produce to supplement one's diet. And again - the nature of "big farma" brings monumental waste, pollutants, and environmental destruction most would never see without being exposed to it. Strictly caring about efficiency is also not sustainable policy.

One really has no idea just how much a piece of supermarket produce is lacking in terms of flavor and nutrient density until they grow their own. Size is most certainly not everything, nor is looking strictly at yields in a vacuum.
Over time those methods deplete soil and you have to bring in new nutrients.
Regarding farmland: if you only knew how bad things really are. The soil is steadily being irreversibly damaged with current practices both in terms of the chemicals added and ploughing methods. I highly encourage you to research this topic given your passing interest in it.

Regarding home gardening (and to repeat myself): you can build the soil right back up using readily available plant matter and food scraps. You can even keep some of the typical small livestock of your choice and use their poo as a bonus if you're really feeling ambitious.

It's not a lot of work at all to have a sustainable small home garden. You should try it sometime.
There are also huge pest issues that become more of a problem the larger your garden gets.
Monocultures bring pest problems. Diversified home gardens naturally help to repel pests. There are also plenty of natural solutions that do not involve poisoning your garden if you run into issues beyond that.
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I'd caution against attempting to dissuade others from daring to take steps towards being marginally self-sufficient. And that's saying nothing of the great fulfillment one can get from the process of growing their own food. If you want to find/invent reasons to never bother doing this for yourself then by all means continue doing so. That's up to you.
 
Tally-ho!
Paper was put out by Jason "Jake" K. Hawes of the "Urban Sustainability Research Group"
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"The Research Group is closely aligned with the Center for Sustainable Systems"
And who sponsors the Center for Sustainable Systems?
These guys:
The Center for Sustainable Systems is funded through a combination of sponsored research grants, endowment support, and gifts from a variety of sources including industry, government, foundations, and individuals. The Center acknowledges the following for their support of our research, outreach programs, and activities:
  • 3M Foundation
  • 3M Corporation (*)
  • 5 Lakes Energy
  • American Automobile Manufacturers Association (AAMA)
  • Alcoa Foundation
  • Argonne National Laboratories
  • AT&T Education Foundation
  • Aurora Organic Dairy Foundation
  • Aveda Corporation
  • Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
  • BHP Billiton Marketing V.V.
  • Champion Genesis Homes
  • Chrysler
  • Chrysler Corporate Fund
  • Cisco Systems, Inc.
  • City of Ann Arbor
  • City of Detroit
  • CMS Energy
  • Dairy Management, Inc.
  • Detroiters Working for Environmental Justice
  • Dow Chemical Company
  • DTE Energy Foundation
  • DuPont
  • Energy Foundation
  • Federal Railroad Administration
  • Ford Motor Company (**)
  • Franklin Associates Ltd.
  • General Motors Corporation
  • Guardian Industries
  • Herrington-Fitch Family Foundation
  • International Iron and Steel Institute
  • Kevin Olmstead Foundation (*)
  • Susan and F. Raymer Lovell, Jr. M.D. (*)
  • Los Angeles Department of Water and Power
  • Lucent Technologies
  • Metro Water District of SoCal
  • Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
  • Michigan Department of Natural Resources
  • Michigan Public Service Commission
  • Mid-America Regional Council
  • Mott Foundation
  • National Environmental Trust
  • National Institute of Standards and Technology
  • National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US Department of Energy
  • National Science Foundation
  • NextEnergy
  • Optical Imaging Systems
  • Oregon Department of Environmental Quality
  • Polytainer
  • Prentice Foundation
  • Retzloff Family Graduate Fund
  • Mr. Stuart Rindfusz
  • Steelcase, Inc.
  • Stonyfield Farm
  • Automotive Materials Partnership, US Council for Automotive Research
  • US Environmental Protection Agency, Pollution Prevention Division
  • US Environmental Protection Agency, Region V
  • US Environmental Protection Agency, Risk Management Research Laboratory
  • US Department of Agriculture
  • US Department of Energy
  • US Department of Navy, Office of Naval Research
  • UTC Power
  • Wege Foundation (***)
  • Peter M. Wege
  • Wellcome Trust
(*) These organizations and individuals have provided endowment support for the Center.
(**) This organization has provided both endowment and operational support for the Center.
(***) This organization has provided both endowment and operational support for the Center as well as an endowed Chair in Sustainable Systems.

And who's on the advisory board? These guys:
 
Wait wait fucking wait! They spent over a decade shaming and claiming that locally and home grown food is a requirement to stop climate change! To the point that we (the west) have been doing almost everything short of banning conventional large scale farming.. (that part is on its way) and now we find out that local growing is yet another "detail" they have yet to even investigate before now?! It was all because "local" and small scale sounded better to them.

This is just like my post a few days ago about the "earth calculators" made popular in the 00s, that turned out to be based on literally nothing, no facts, no numbers, no calculations of any kind.. Just what eco activists felt like setting the numbers to. (ending up with lovely claims like that you were using two plus earths if you had running water, power and a car etc.. OC without truly telling you that's all it took)

This is your regular reminder that ALL claims about about climate change, are one dimensional at best, usually ignoring all other aspects.. or treating them better by default. In the rare cases claims are even backed up by any scientific study or facts to begin with. They don't know what they are actually doing.. Just what sounds "right" at the moment in green/eco progressive dogma!

In b4 this is selectively remembered/ignored to wage war on local/private farming too! (That is, without stopping the war on large scale farming)
 
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