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High student loans might save marriage. It will motivate them to marry some poor fool make him pay it off and then divorce him.
I’ve heard for years that student loans are the primary reason why people put off marriage and homeownership but then I see a young engineer at my work get promoted and make enough money to pay off the loans but he’ll buy a new Tesla or a BMW and move to a trendier part of town instead while still complaining about student loans. I used to be sympathetic but increasingly less so over the years. It’s more because society encourages instant gratification and indulgence and doing things like paying more than the minimum on debt or saving up for a house is considered lame because #yolo, not realizing how much people piss away on interest. Your quality of life is much better without a big chunk of your paycheck going to usury. I tell that to the young engineers as they complain about student loans and telling me how good I have it. Oh well.
 
It’s more because society encourages instant gratification
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I’ve heard for years that student loans are the primary reason why people put off marriage and homeownership but then I see a young engineer at my work get promoted and make enough money to pay off the loans but he’ll buy a new Tesla or a BMW and move to a trendier part of town instead while still complaining about student loans.
Seems like he has more issues with self confidence than he does with planning for the future.

Make sure to tell him how handsome he is, regularly.
 
Why do men still outperform women in nearly every profession? They've had equal rights for over 100 years now, is that not enough time to catch up?
 
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On the topic of women voting for the importation of rapefugees, it's pretty worse than just that. Women will go out of their way to defend and disrupt the prosecution of the rapists. The chief deputy of police of Telford England is a woman, who sent police officers to intimidate young girls in being silent about being raped and forced into sex slavery by sand niggers. Although this has happened in Sweden, it has come up in the UK airlines of passengers doing everything they can to prevent the deportation of a convicted rapist. A good number of them were women. In both the US and EU, there are women who will refuse to tell police that they've been raped or feel guilty about telling the police. In one instance it was about feeling bad that the rapists would be deported. The other involved the woman not wanting to press charges as it means admitting what far right white supremacists have said about immigrants to be true, a very twisted fuck you dad kind of attitude. There is this psychotic sociopathy that these women have that just completely boggles the mind. The feelings of invading rapists are more important to these people than the physical health of themselves or their fellow people. Absolute insanity.
 
In both the US and EU, there are women who will refuse to tell police that they've been raped or feel guilty about telling the police. In one instance it was about feeling bad that the rapists would be deported. The other involved the woman not wanting to press charges as it means admitting what far right white supremacists have said about immigrants to be true, a very twisted fuck you dad kind of attitude.
It probably goes deeper than that, but we need to be somewhat careful about taking the exception for the rule. For example in Germany there are several hundred rapes by refugees per year (not all but the majority against "native" women). Yet, I only know of a handful confirmed cases where the victim either did not report it, felt bad for reporting it or lied about the ethnicity of the culprit.
Since the vast majority of women (in Germany) is pro immigration and pro refugee, it stands to reason that the majority of victims are too (probably even more relatively since the "based" ones are more likely to avoid dealing with them). Therefore the above described behaviour also is the exception in that group. I admit, the data is very spotty though and there are some ways of covering for the culprit that will never appear in the media or any statistic.

As a larger point, it will be interesting to see if attitudes change in the coming decades. We have been living in an era of extremly low crime by historic standards. If you avoid the worst neighbourhoods, you were fine no matter the time of day. In human history that's the absolute exception and it breeds a sort of naivity, that we haven't seen before and won't see again if current trends continue. But that could also me just being way too autistic and all this is just the latest iteration of the "noble savage" fetish they have. Who fucking knows.
 
People respond to social incentives because we are social creatures. White women have been conditioned over the course of decades that being a racist is the worst thing to be. Then there’s the carrot dangling in front of them that they should feel good about themselves for doing their part to end racism, which is why “conservative” women will still bleat their support for things like Nigger Lives Matter or pretend rapefugees aren’t a problem. Women are the enforcers of the status quo and right now that’s anyone who has greater melanin content than them or a victim is morally just in the things they do. These cunts will say #FreeGaza because one group of people looks browner than the other and that’s all the reason they need to be for Palestinians. Which is why women were never taken seriously up until the last century and we’re seeing the effects of it now.
 
UK airlines of passengers doing everything they can to prevent the deportation of a convicted rapist.
I remember the last one. They blocked the deportation, had their ‘and everybody clapped’ moment and then got told the guy was a serial rapist or something and were all ‘oh I didn’t know that.’

Typical progressives. Never ask WHY something is happening. (Why do we have this rule/taboo/fence/, let’s just tear it down !) no idea why anyone male or female would vote for policies that make their country/area less safe, it’s not just a woman thing is it? It’s a white people thing. We are the only group controlled by guilt. Every other group will act for their own and s few everyone else. Maybe we need a bit more of that

I come back after a break and the men hate thread is on 9k posts and the women hate thread on 11k.
 
It probably goes deeper than that, but we need to be somewhat careful about taking the exception for the rule. For example in Germany there are several hundred rapes by refugees per year (not all but the majority against "native" women). Yet, I only know of a handful confirmed cases where the victim either did not report it, felt bad for reporting it or lied about the ethnicity of the culprit.
I know that they are the exception, but it is important to bring up when discussing pro immigration and pro refugee stances of feminists. In one breath they condemn all men for rape culture, in another breath they actively support the creation of rape culture.
I admit, the data is very spotty though and there are some ways of covering for the culprit that will never appear in the media or any statistic.
Feminists are right about the amount of rapes that occur are higher than the amount of rapes that show in the statistics, they're just wrong about who is doing those rapes. I'm not saying it's entirely just women feeling bad for the rapists as the police in some countries will throw out rape cases if there are too many non-white ones being the offender. It does make you ask how common do women not report it, felt bad for reporting it, or lie about the ethnicity of the culprits to skew the statistics.
 
The infighting and immediate accusations that absolutely everything is a mod conspiracy. There's a significant overlap in people here and people who just really hate the site and want to cause problems. Instead of just posting memes about how holes are all stupid, it's always, always, always, always about other users and staff and me.
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I come back after a break and the men hate thread is on 9k posts and the women hate thread on 11k.
To be fair, most of it is just the thread being a treehouse for the boys, sometimes Jersh comes and yells at us for things that someone somewhere maybe did, we don't know. I think we talked some about cheese and cooking. It's tough, we have to be reminded to hate women.
 
Reading these thinkpieces from yesteryear leftists are a trip:
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The weight of tradition sits heavily on all our shoulders, from the subtlest forms of enculturation to the most stringent social codes, all encourage us to lose truth in favour of habit or convention; as Blake wrote, "The establishment of truth depends on destruction of falsehood continually."

We all possess the faculties for self analysis along with the ability to change our modes of thought and behaviour, in reality the stumbling block when it comes to the conscious avoidance of sexual or other forms of roleplay, is our fear of deviance, the fear of disapproval from those around us, along with anxieties based on the abandonment of our histories, our Individual experiences. Shere Hite outlines the visual codes our society perpetuates, "The fact that men are allowed so little leeway in forms of dress while women can wear all kinds of things, shows the value that men and the male system place on conformity, showing membership in the 'male' group, because only by abiding to the rules of conformity can one prove he is part of the 'male' club, or the official ruling elite. That Is why men adhere so strongly and with such pride to these forms, who would ever catch a man wearing a skirt, no matter how liberal?"

Hites' words are not without humour but they still ring true, and if mon cling so fiercely to traditional forms of dress, Imagine the ferocity with which they hold onto Internalised norms and roles. It follows too that women are simlarly attached to ideas and values that tie in with their position as the subordinate sex. "The individual reflects and embodies the ideals of a society," wrote Beauvoir, hence if a society is based on male sovereignty we all perform the elaborate rituals of reflecting men or myths surrounding masculinity-"Sexuality is co-existence with existence." Sartre & Merieau-Ponty. Even those of us who avoid the traditions of Heterosexuality are forced to comply with the norm by becoming apologists for their very existence. In patriarchal societies we all become apologists if we cannot compare entirely with preconceived stereotypes, if we are not masculine males or feminine females we are classed as failures. Discrimination is a profound and subtle sickness that has lodged itself deep in the subconsciousness of men and women as well as the structure of our societies. This makes it one of the hardest sources of Inequality to fight because it grips women from within and without,"Even when her rights are legally recognised in the abstract," wrote Beauvoir,"Long standing custom prevents their full expression in the mores. In the economic sphere men and women can almost be said to make up two castes." The past enshrines the past and in the past all history has been made by men which is why it's so difficult for us to dispute male sovereignty, ultimately women have no egos. Florence Nightingale was aware that, "Women have no means given them whereby they can resist these claims for attention and centrality made upon them by men."

Humanity then, is considered male and man defines woman not in herself but as relative to him; she is not regarded as an autonomous being, we are all aware of this situation but what are the costs, the effects of repression on women? To begin with, women fight a constant battle against their internalised view of themselves as weak and powerless, this image of the female sex is repeatedly strengthened in our iconography, in the media, and in advertising. This leaves very little room for self expression or creativity, hence the gradual fading of a young womans' hopes as she takes over the repressive processes her parents and superiors have demonstrated and carries them out on her own behalf.

"Man, the sovereign, will provide woman, the liege, with the material protection and will undertake the moral justification of her existence; thus she can evade at once both economic risk and the metaphysical risk of a liberty in which ends and aims must be contrived without assistance. Indeed along with the ethical urge of each individual to affirm his subjective existence, there is also the temptation to forego liberty and become a thing. This is an inauspicious road for he who takes it, passive, lost, ruined becomes henceforth the creature of anothers' will, frustrated in his transcendence and deprived of every value." Beauvoirs' description of female objectification is echoed by the 1700's writer Mary Wollstonecroft, "She was created to be the toy of man, his rattle, and must jingle in his ears whenever, dismissing reason, he chooses to be amused." It is not difficcult to see where our energy is diverted to, in such a servile position it is obvious that our abilities are seriously impaired - "Energy is the power that drives every human being. It is not lost by exertion but maintained by it, for it is a faculty of psyche. It is driven to perverted manifestations by curbs and checks. Like the motive force that drives cars along the highway, when it meets with an obstacle it turns to destructive force and shakes its source to pieces. It is not hard to point out to the averagely perceptive human being that women have plenty of the destructive kind of energy, but far fewer see that womens' destructiveness is creativity turned in upon itself by constant frustration. Nervous diseases, painful menstruation, unwanted pregnancies, accidents of all kinds, are all evidence of womens' energy destroying them." Greer, The Female Eunich'.

It is no wonder women suffer more mental illnesses and forms of depression than males and are also more likely to suffer eating disorders, or tranquiliser addiction, and their sense of worth is for the most part attached to the 'Female sphere', responsibilities confined to aesthetic decoration (Body), or the home and the unique and prolonged responsibility of bringing up children. Even verbal expression is curbed as Dale Spender found in her research in 'Reflecting men'. She found that in her recorded tapes of mixed conversations it was unknown for a woman to talk for more than a third of the time; more importantly women who had only received 20% of conversation time believed they'd received their fair share. When Spender attempted to talk for 50% of the time the men she spoke with found her rude and aggressive, yet her research revealed that men interrupt womens' speech frequently, usually with the line "What you really mean is..."

None of us are free of these forms of enculturation regardless of political or non-political doctrine, this is why men who are theoretically and ideologically in favour of sexual equality fail to put their beliefs into practice. Although capitalism embraces and perpetuates patriarchy it is not confined to such societies, people often attribute change in attitude in this area, to a change in politics but that is not necessarily so.. Fidel Castro, after the Cuban revolution, thanked the Womans' federation of Cuba for bearing arms alongside the men, recognising their contribution towards the revolution, he continued by beseeching them to return to the home."Who will do the cooking for the child who still comes home for lunch? Who will nurse the babies or take care of pre-school children? Who will cook for the man when he comes home from work? Who will wash and clean and take care of things?" Marie Sheard, June 89.
Anatomy is destiny', said Freud, and this statement rings truer than ever in today's society, so despite the fact that the discussion of our sexual identity, behaviour, roles and relations is a well worn subject it is still worthy of our attention.

We live in a phallocentric society, yet we never publicly view the penis, instead we live and breathe the use and abuse of the female body in advertising and porn, this might seem a contradiction but it is not. Women are portrayed and see themselves as objects because this is a convenient form of dehumanization, in visualising a woman in terms of flesh - breasts, legs, buttocks, vagina or face, she is no longer an individual, she can therefore be conquered, dominated, manipulated, masturbated into, without guilt; she is an empty receptacle devoid of mind or soul. So how do these factors affect us? Firstly - stand in female shoes, walk the street, experience the degradation suffered as male eyes devour you, imagine the neuroses that occur as a result of the attachment of worth to your body; if you are old, fat or ugly popular notions dismiss you, you cease to exist. Man lives an image and suffers the consequences too, he seeks in woman the myth of his virility and the popular alternatives to the universal hero, the stud or the protecter, are impotence, weakness, femininity, all of which inspire ridicule. The power of this myth requires the constant affirmation of 'masculine' qualities, this becomes apparent when we gauge the appalling lack of opposition to Clause28, this threatens the freedom of us all but patriarchal, heterosexual values cause us to recoil from those considered sexually deviant because they make a mockery of our absurd domination rituals. The slave enslaves the master, man pretends to be male to get pretence in return; we are all actors, all victims - our roles instrumental to capitalist society and all of the elements within it that we decry. Racism, antisemitism, vivisection, competition, aggression, exploitation; all emerge from our ability to dehumanize and objectify so that we can dominate or abuse without anxiety - this abstraction is a chief factor in the make-up of societies like ours. Such societies need the discipline, the repression and the diversion our sexual identities breed, our roles block the creativity that might threaten it, instead inspiring obedience, hierarchy; but these myths, these daily rituals are socialized and are therefore not irreversible. While we might find a woman's curves attractive, or succumb to the image of the muscular hero if they cost blood and misery they are fantasies that must be sacrificed, all oppression creates a state of war and while we are divided and diverted we are easily manipulated.
 

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