Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.4%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 12.1%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.7%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 155 33.4%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 113 24.4%

  • Total voters
    464
Excuse me for being a confused retard but I thought Skordas was handling the Greer case since he dealt with Greer in the past by representing Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande. What caused the change to Hardin?
There have been implications that skordass was not being the most helpful.

Also, if russle needs free legal representation, I have just the guy: https://chat.openai.com/
 
This is the kind of filing 2019 Rekieta would have torn apart, slowly, over 3 hours of an increasingly hilarious stream.

"stipulations" is my new favorite slang for "payment"
The Greer Streams were what got me into Rekieta.

Well, at least one of them stayed the same.
 
is the appalate ruling still precedent?
Yes
And is that precedent unappealable because by dropping the original lawsuit, any appeal of the appalate ruling to SCOTUS is moot?
Probably.

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Man, Hardin is taking no prisoners. Three proper arguments to say "put up or shut up" against a motion to delay.

The Plaintiff had no aversion to filing multiple and serial lawsuits and motions previously, including in this matter, but the Plaintiff seems to have had a sudden change of heart now that a vigorous defense is being mounted.

This might be the most polite way I've seen to call someone a cowardly bitch.
 
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Learning no lessons from the Ariana Grande case, Russell is once again late and tries to pin the blame on time.



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Russell is going to lose his shit over that footnote. He should explain to the court that a stalking conviction is basically just a parking ticket, and see how that goes.
 
About 24 hours from the farms to the docket. Damn good shit.

With writing like these newest filings, it's no wonder he wants to protect his copyright. Guy is a God damned literary genius, I tell you what.
This is honestly way better than anything Fatrick has ever written, even his rambling insane defense of not paying Quasi.

Court proceedings are public and copyright free, correct? Someone could compile all these and print them in a book?
 
Given that his lawyers ask for $400/h, that lasts him like what, ten hours worth of work?
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Logistics is important in Lawfare too it would seem. If Greer simply picked a cheaper lawyer that wasn't as big of name he could get much more bang for his buck.

What are the chances of the court granting his stay simply because he is pro se and he is asking for lawyer(s)? My understanding is that courts are very willing to grant leeway for people to get lawyers. Is Hardin pointing out Greer hasn't actually taken steps to get these lawyers likely to be enough to get the court to rule in Moon's favor?
 
What are the chances of the court granting his stay simply because he is pro se and he is asking for lawyer(s)? My understanding is that courts are very willing to grant leeway for people to get lawyers. Is Hardin pointing out Greer hasn't actually taken steps to get these lawyers likely to be enough to get the court to rule in Moon's favor?
I want to believe he's got poor odds in this motion.

This isn't a criminal trial where he'd have a right to counsel and he'd get a public defender appointed for him if he was indigent. He brought this case, he chose freely when, where, and how to file it; it's civil, and thus he doesn't have a right to legal counsel; he's welcome to retain counsel, but he has no right to it - he opted to dive into this pro se, and nobody forced him to do that but himself. The saying, "your lack of planning is not my emergency," applies to the situation quite well. The time for Russ to delay to find and retain legal counsel was before he filed the suit; to delay the suit for that reason now is prejudicial to the defendants. What's more, forcing the court to rule on motions that Russ now feels necessary purely due to his own previous unpreparedness is a waste of judicial time and resources, and the defendants are also forced to expend money responding to them.

If Russ hired a lawyer, paid them some de minimis retainer, and then the lawyer filed an appearance and requested a delay for the purposes of getting up to speed on the clusterfuck that they're now responsible for salvaging, that would almost certainly be granted (and you know they'd undoubtedly still want that delay, if Russ managed to succeed in hiring them). But delaying before the lawyer is even retained - and for the specific reason of "I can't afford this lawyer, but in 60 to 90 days I might" - is putting the cart before the horse.

All of that aside, I hold little optimism for the legal system to do the sensible thing here, so I'll hedge my bets and say that the court might tell Russ he has 60 days, not 90. If it gives Russ any less than 60 days, I'd consider that a win. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than be let down by the order...

edit: I might add, the fact that Russell's lawyers haven't agreed to represent him for $1 now and a promise to pay them more in 60 to 90 days - which would be sufficient for them to get their foot in the door and request a delay for that reason - is indicative of their level of confidence in his ability to raise the money.
 
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I'm optimistic. I feel the court will entertain the possibility Russel can get a lawyer, so they will give him 7 days to put up or shut up about it. The magistrate will almost certainly want Russel to get a lawyer and wrangle this shit, so they will probably light a fire under his ass to get it done.
 
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RUSS KNOWS ABOUT THE FUNDING!
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If Greer simply picked a cheaper lawyer that wasn't as big of name he could get much more bang for his buck.
The lawyers he’s trying to retain are not particularly “big name” ones. They are an org with only three lawyers in them, and they have only a few cases they are proud of (as shown on their website).
What are the chances of the court granting his stay simply because he is pro se and he is asking for lawyer(s)? My
I originally thought they would grant it, but with Hardin's latest motion, I think that may just tip it over in Null's favor. Not a big deal anyway (for either party) considering the lawsuit would have been essentially on pause when Null appeals to SCOTUS next month
 

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The lawyers he’s trying to retain are not particularly “big name” ones. They are an org with only three lawyers in them, and they have only a few cases they are proud of (as shown on their website).

I originally thought they would grant it, but with Hardin's latest motion, I think that may just tip it over in Null's favor. Not a big deal anyway (for either party) considering the lawsuit would have been essentially on pause when Null appeals to SCOTUS next month
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! I've been waiting for his freakout over the fundraiser and he did NOT disappoint!
 
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