Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military

Finnish Air Force said:
Didn't pretty much every former MARSOC, Delta, SF/ whatever quit in Ukraine?
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A bunch of them got wasted by Russian artillery and airpower before the vast majority realized it was not a walk in the park like in their previous deployments and quit as soon as they could.

Battlefield2142EU said:
I have a feeling Israeli special forces are the biggest spergs.
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A whole bunch of them are getting their guts spilled out as we speak. I have seen a few videos from the raghead side and it seems the foreskinless rats are taking a large number of casualties as they try and push into Gaza.

74164978231 said:
War has always been like this to an extent. You think the boys that landed at Normandy didnt hype themselves up before hand?
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Allied forces shot German POWs at Normandy which then prompted the Waffen SS and Wehrmacht to respond in kind.
War is Hell.

Maginot said:
A strobe light at the wrong time would blind these guys bad.
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Flashbangs or those bad quality lasers from china also do the trick.

The Foxtrot said:
Remind these faggots that the Soviet Alpha/Vympel groups and Spetznaz GRU teams, unlike American SOCOM units, actually proved useful as "Special Forces" in the USSR's military, and are still doing good work as part of the RUAF.
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True, but their casualty rate is much, much higher.
And if you ever get stuck in a hostage situation in Russia, write your last will and testament, make your peace with whatever deity(ies) you worship, and then flip a coin.
Heads you live, tails you die.

Feline Supremacist said:
I have no idea if Russia has any programs to help theirs decompress and function in normal society.
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They do. It is called V.O.D.K.A.

JIDF Team 6 said:
It would be extremely interesting and I assume highly classified if the US had an EMP drone. Imagine being a drone operator sworn to secrecy and you can't resist posting on IG.
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I have actually discussed this question at length with two of my friends back in high school who both made and flew drones.
They told me it was possible and it is actually a very good strategy to deploy against enemy drone formation. A single kamikaze drone loaded with an EMP device that knocks out a swarm of enemy drones.
And oh look, it is already in development.
 
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Fried-Rice12 said:
True, but their casualty rate is much, much higher.
And if you ever get stuck in a hostage situation in Russia, write your last will and testament, make your peace with whatever deity(ies) you worship, and then flip a coin.
Heads you live, tails you die.
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Meanwhile, in America, you'll be deliberately left to die as the government begs the terrorists not to kill you and offers a ransom payment...and then you get killed anyway because it was politically convenient. 80% chance of a brutal death, 5% chance of successful rescue, 15% chance of lengthy imprisonment and then release.

At least when you take hostages in Russia, you do so with the knowledge that the Russians actually mean it when they say "We will not negotiate with terrorists", and they have a track record of actually killing the terrorists. 50/50 odds I live or die. Even if I do get killed by the terrorists, the Russians are going to very quickly apply "disproportionate retribution" to avenge me.
 
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The Foxtrot said:
Even if I do get killed by the terrorists
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You do know that a large number of the casualties in Beslan were by the Russian forces, yes?
They brought up T-72s and had them hurl HE rounds into the building while there were still hostages in the target zone.
Not to mention that fentanyl derived gas they used in the Moscow theater siege which killed many hostages, though I believe more died because rescue crews were not informed of the decision to use the gas and did not come prepared with enough naxalone.
The terrorists are certainly going to hell in a handbasket but you might be joining them in a separate handbasket.
50/50 chance, hence the coin flip.
 
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Fried-Rice12 said:
You do know that a large number of the casualties in Beslan were by the Russian forces, yes?
They brought up T-72s and had them hurl HE rounds into the building while there were still hostages in the target zone.
Not to mention that fentanyl derived gas they used in the Moscow theater siege which killed many hostages, though I believe more died because rescue crews were not informed of the decision to use the gas and did not come prepared with enough naxalone.
The terrorists are certainly going to hell in a handbasket but you might be joining them in a separate handbasket.
50/50 chance, hence the coin flip.
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Point being, with Americans, I'm almost certainly going to die.
With Russians I might die.
 
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Guys, let's not get too derailed in the best "special forces" comparisons. If you want to make a thread to archive/admire/shit talk/investigate foreign spec ops, do it separately. This is just to talk about American ones. I'm saying this just preemptively to avoid derailment and a theoretical "X country's death squads could beat Y country's death squads" pages long slapfights.
Sargon's wife's son said:
The green berets are totally different way of waging warfare the special operations unit but the main thing they do is go in and work with insurgents groups or local friendly militias they're actually effective anti insurgent groups unlike the overpaid an overhyped Navy seals in delta force
the Navy seals and delta force seem to just go around killing random civilians and committing war crimes
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Yeah, I mentioned how the Green Berets operate in the OP. Look at the fine work they did with the Afghan National Army and Police with 20 years of work. Collapsed in 3 months and now the Taliban have Black Hawks, ARs with ACOGs, NODs, etc. paid by the taxpayer.

Like, there's no way they could possibly have gotten a worse result. And the cope that the ANA were "betrayed by their government" is terrible, like bitch, who put the ultra corrupt Afghan government into power? The Mexicans?

We have a lot of testimony also of Green Berets getting into firefights in Afghanistan. They were a "support" element. But it seems they couldn't train Afghans and just went into the fight by themselves.
 
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A Former Delta Force Operator - Joey Goodbloe - assaulted a disabled veteran at a party for wearing a Russian costume. (It was a Chernobyl themed party) Another Delta Operator Chris Vansant is attempting to cover it up in typical Army fashion. Chris Vansant also appeared on the Shawn Ryan podcast as is famous for being a Delta Operator while being borederline anorexic (?)
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I'll probably end up deleting because upon closer inspection, the supposed victim is actually a race baiting scammer. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-out-our-boy-devin-jones
 
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A Former Delta Force Operator - Joey Goodbloe - assaulted a disabled veteran at a party for wearing a Russian costume. (It was a Chernobyl themed party) Another Delta Operator Chris Vansant is attempting to cover it up in typical Army fashion. Chris Vansant also appeared on the Shawn Ryan podcast as is famous for being a Delta Operator while being borederline anorexic (?)
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I'll probably end up deleting because upon closer inspection, the supposed victim is actually a race baiting scammer. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-out-our-boy-devin-jones
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Yeah, Chris is in the OP. Don't delete. Even if the negro was a race baiter, the Delta dude should not have chimped out and assaulted him. Jesus, what the fuck is going on with Delta these days. And I am hoping Chris disavows and fires Joey. Has the video of the incident come out?
 
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JIDF Team 6 said:
My theory is that the Army has always been full of shit and everything they accuse SEALs of is projection.

*Edit- Joey Goodloe doesn't exactly look white himself.
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Lol, he'd be right at home in the ME, Turkey or Armenia. According to a facebook post by tyr tactical, neither Joey or Chris were part of the company for over a year and they came invited. Man what an awful forum is ar15.com 5 pages of "2020 is this racism ? Boomer talk" ignoring the violent ape who cracked a jaw for being a belligerent drunk. But from what I can tell Chris has little to do with this. As long as he disavows and does not go defend his "friend" he is in the clear.

Edit: I remeber, Chris is currently working as COO for the All Secure foundation, to help veterans get treatment for their issues. Job isn't smooth sailing for Chris, it seems.
Insta of Chris.
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Justtocheck said:
Yeah, I mentioned how the Green Berets operate in the OP. Look at the fine work they did with the Afghan National Army and Police with 20 years of work. Collapsed in 3 months and now the Taliban have Black Hawks, ARs with ACOGs, NODs, etc. paid by the taxpayer.
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At least half the soldiers did not even exist. They were ghost soldiers, bookkeeping tricks so their corrupt officers could take that money for himself.

Justtocheck said:
Like, there's no way they could possibly have gotten a worse result. And the cope that the ANA were "betrayed by their government" is terrible, like bitch, who put the ultra corrupt Afghan government into power? The Mexicans?
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Certain units like the commandos fought well, I recall a video where a small group of commandos were surround by raghead terrorists but they did not surrender. Instead they all died fighting.
But the larger portion were completely useless, strung out on drugs or just plain cowards.

Justtocheck said:
We have a lot of testimony also of Green Berets getting into firefights in Afghanistan. They were a "support" element. But it seems they couldn't train Afghans and just went into the fight by themselves.
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It is because the ragheads cannot or would not fight.
They would just hide under cover and spray fire all over the place.

You forget the most important part: the raghead terrorists were trained, armed, and assisted by CIA and US spec ops back when they were fighting the commies.
 
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Anyone remember how 2 Delta Force Operators were given Distinguished Services Crosses for supposedly saving a bunch of lives during the Benghazi attacks? 2 US commandos involved in Benghazi rescue to be privately honored for bravery
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Well the CIA security contractors who held the fort who are themselves former Rangers and Marines say the story is bullshit and that the Delta Force operators actually were cowards who hid in the basement because they weren't used to conventional combat and getting mortared.


The worst part is after the battle was over they were still so scared to go up on the roof to recover the bodies of the fallen SEALs that they chucked the bodies off the roof instead of carrying them down gently.


And it gets better. One of the Delta Force Operators has been nominated for the medal of honor.
Congress Authorizes Award Upgrades
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Finnish Air Force said:
The worst part is after the battle was over they were still so scared to go up on the roof to recover the bodies of the fallen SEALs that they chucked the bodies off the roof instead of carrying them down gently.


And it gets better. One of the Delta Force Operators has been nominated for the medal of honor.
Congress Authorizes Award Upgrades
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I remember that scene in the movie (13 hours). That was fucking savagery, dirty and disrespectful to a fellow American fighter. Fuck those dudes.
 
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Justtocheck said:
Anyone here want to try for Delta? Scan the QR link with the promo code "Kiwi Farms" and it will give you %20 discount on your ruck weight during the Long Walk.

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This doesn't surprise me at all. Retention is getting so bad that there have been listings for commander positions on nuclear-armed submarines listed on LinkedIn and Indeed. This was before they got taken down, of course, but it makes me question how badly soldiers of all ranks are being treated if they can't even properly staff nuclear-armed submarines. From my links in both the enlisted service and the few honest-speaking connections in the 2, 3, and 4-star commanding positions that I talk regularly with, it's getting very bad. There's talk of shifting recruitment to new college grads in exchange for student debt relief.
Tablet County said:
I must be hard-of-seeing because I don't see any such thing.
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JIDF Team 6 said:
A dude did fall off the helicopter. Left side facing away from the camera. At around 10 seconds in, right onto his face.
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I see the Ooperator stumbling and landing on his stomach at 0:09 but calling that a "fuck up" is a lil stretch
 
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