General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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Kill niji. Behead niji. Roundhouse kick a niji into the concrete. Slam dunk a niji baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy nijifags. Defecate in a nijis food. Launch niji into the sun. Stir fry niji in a wok. Toss niji into active volcanoes. Urinate into a niji's gas tank. Judo throw niji into a wood chipper. Twist niji heads off. Report niji to the IRS. Karate chop niji in half. Curb stomp pregnant black nijis. Trap niji in quicksand. Crush niji in the trash compactor. Liquefy niji in a vat of acid. Eat niji. Dissect niji. Exterminate niji in the gas chamber. Stomp niji skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate niji in the oven. Lobotomize niji. Mandatory abortions for niji. Grind niji fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown niji in fried chicken grease. Vaporize niji with a ray gun. Kick old niji down the stairs. Feed niji to alligators. Slice niji with a katana.
 
This I ultimately doubt. This is the beginning of the end for them, at least in the English market. Their two biggest talents just jumped ship, one under a torrent of controversy which is negatively effecting the entire brand. People could overlook Zaion because she was new. Nobody can overlook this. This will cause a stain of bitterness and suspicion to hang over the entire branch. People will be reluctant to support the branch going forward because the theories of a "mean girls" clique within Niji will only strengthen and be taken as gospel now. Niji's shotgun approach to talent acquisition is only making it worse. They've introduced so many new talents that people can't keep up anymore and most no longer care. With all the talents they've introduced, they've yet to produce a single one that comes remotely close to matching Selen's numbers, or even Pomu's. Most aren't that successful or memorable; some have numbers that are outright terrible. I guarantee you this, its a matter of when, not if, the next major talent leaves and who it is. It could be Rosemi or Finana, who were part of the first two waves and were close with Pomu and Selen. It could be someone from a newer wave, like Scarle. But Niji is staring down the barrel of a death spiral after losing three major talents in as many months.
I think the bigger question is, what exactly is the point of NijiEn at this point? Hololive is more polished and 'idol' like, Vshojo caters to the coomers (Henya notwithstanding) , Phase has the most down to earth talents, and there are a plethora of indies out there to suit anyone's taste.
I don't see NijiEN making any further growth, they'll retain the die hard fans, but everyone is eating their lunch and their reputation stinks. As much as I would like to see NijiEN go down in flames, I think it's going to be a slow death instead.


Saya has slowly been becoming my favorite from this new gen.
I need to check out Saya, meant to watch the birthday stream today but real life got in the way.
 
As much as I would like to see NijiEN go down in flames, I think it's going to be a slow death instead.
That will ultimately depend on the talents themselves and how much bullshit they are willing to put up with. They are already seeing mass subscriber losses across the board. Being associated with Niji at this point is like a scarlet letter. If there is a mass exodus of talent, NijiEN may be gone by the end of the year.
 
Luca's ex-mod is back with receipts
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Honestly the only other shit I want to clear out and air is I worked hard for a lot of uncredited projects and to clarify a couple things. Luca is a narcissist and a manipulator, and lied to not only to me, but his fans and friends in Nijisanji as well.
I know this one is going to stir shit because it has many times in the past but, I ended up building 80% of Pogland (or whatever it was called) on the shared NijiEN Minecraft server to “help Luca defeat Pomu”. I was instructed to not talk to others and "make it look like it wasn't made in creative mode". I built the entrance, carousal, the water roller-coaster, ferris wheel, the lil food stall area, and even outlined and put materials in a chest so Luca could easily build the maze he did on stream and make it look like he gathered all the materials. So yes, Pogland was made in creative mode, and wasn't even made by Luca outside of some signs, the boat ride, and the boat ice race thing (which I went back and decorated for him). I made one of Luca's schedule that he didn't want to credit me for. Before I made him one, I often edited his schedule and social media posts for him. I did thumbnails too but honestly those things are pretty minor in comparison. I did the overlay for his Pokémon stream on short notice. I wrote the Sakura Bloom and Birthday VP packs for him. (Sorry for this lmao) I wrote messages for him, specifically his birthday merch and the 1 million followers message. I wrote the story AND script for his outfit reveal. I don't know if the NijiEN sports carnival was ever a thing, but I built the logo inside Minecraft for that too.
He would ask me to manage projects/commissions for him but I wasn't allowed to talk to the commissioners (so I couldn't do this) but kept asking me to organize things for him when I had no clue what and how. I made a trello to try and help him manage things but I wouldn't get deadlines, info, etc, so I couldn't fully do this. I was also barred from the VRChat world project group Discord for some time even though he wanted me to manage that as well, eventually I was let in so I could properly talk to the modelers and designers but by then it was a bit too late to properly see things through, hence partially why it's unfinished. I was also not allowed to contact the other livers for their individual zones so I had to go through their interests and streams to try and find references, inside jokes, etc for things to make sense and hope they liked it.
As for my actual personal grievances, Java and I met when I was 24 and he was 18. For a long while we would pretty much only chat about VRChat, VRChat models (I would help him with his), about friends in VRChat, and RP scenarios for a certain streamer's RP lobby. We became good friends eventually due to a variety of reasons. We would appear on each other's streams constantly. We had a lot of mutual friends and would hang out with and play games with them too, primarily VRChat. We all knew about Java's upbringing and brushed off a lot of things about his personality such as constantly lying and overt attention seeking. A lot of us were streamers so it was "normal" for us to attention whore, seek, etc but Java took it above and beyond by blowing off plans and lying to be on stream with people like Sodapoppin or XQC in Rob's lobbies where he would complain privately about being used as a trap by Rob but then would drop anything to go catfish these large personalities.
I would get upset at him as he would lie about being on VRC (while being on stream lol) and would start to blow off our friends and I to do so. We were still great and personal friends at this time, however, and remained so for a long time. As he got into Nijisanji these lies would gradually get worse where I couldn't trust him anymore. Upon the great hot emoji incident of 2021, I asked Luca directly if he was ok with the type of comments being made and things like the hot emoji being spammed, as before he stated to me (and another mod) he did not like to be sexualized. He told me he did not like these comments. I took this as I should moderate these comments and try to steer people away from using the emoji. This happened a LOT with my moderation, as I may have overstepped my bounds looking back given a lot of the scenarios, at the time I was acting in good faith as my friend would come to me and tell me what he was and wasn't comfortable with. But, at the same time, he was never FIRM in anything. The other mod and I had to INSIST he write rules (aka we wrote them for him and he added pog) for his chat and even then he didn't want to take it seriously, which left the other mod and I in a precarious position. He used me to do his dirty work such as making up rules for his chat, and when people reacted badly he would place the blame under the rug so it would fall on me despite these unwanted things. This is why I was "over protective" of him - I seriously thought he wouldn't stand up for himself so when he told me about things that made him uncomfortable but he let it slide/continued to do it, I felt it was my need to try and stand up for him. Looking back, no it wasn't my job to do so, but we did eventually discuss this and realized we both made mistakes in putting up boundaries for each other. I went silent eventually about modding.
After that I stopped watching his streams due to his shift in content. He would get mad because I didn't want to watch his streams. They were also late, but I told him while I supported him I don't watch the content of content he was producing at the time. He would often get upset and angry at me because I didn't watch his streams anymore. He would talk about nothing but Nijisanji, his streams, new oufits, projects, the anime we were watching, or finding a house and after a while and it became exhausting to me. I got short with him during this, asking if he was ever going to play games or hang out besides talking about Niji/watching anime, and it never happened. I got frustrated especially since he would vent about regretting doing a stream (such as the bartending one) then do it again. I would ask things like if he was ok doing another drunk stream and if he was going to regret it, he would lie to me and say things like "Ah I'm not going to drink, I'm going to fake it" or "I'm only going to drink a little bit" and then get full out drunk only to vent to me the next day about how embarrassed/ashamed he was when I asked about it. This applied to other stuff too, like how he thought the pickup lines are cringe but would encourage them. How he hates being called daddy. He enabled people anyway and It drove me nuts because he would get ANGRY at me for talking about it.
I wasn't a saint either. My mental health was deteriorating partially due to him, partially due to trying out a bunch of anti depressants at the time, where I'd publicly admit on stream at some point I was thinking about suicide and that was my wake up call. This is when Luca was losing a lot of sleep and confided in his Niji friends (as he had every right to do so). Sometime after that my beloved cat would pass away unexpectedly during the night, this affected my mental health like it would anyone else. In the following days, I asked Java twice if we could just hang out and talk because I really needed someone (my older brother was out of town and my other family are multiple hours away by plane, so yes I turned to my then best friend for support) and he brushed me off twice, not because he was busy, but because he was playing Minecraft with other Niji people (not on stream) then because he joined an open talk stream with Millie that he didn't want to leave. He msg'd me when I asked, but his replies were half hearted and half assed. When I, admittedly, yelled at him about this he said he was affected by my cat dying too and was really sad and dealing with it in his own way.
This was the point in 2023 that really sent me into a spiral with this individual and after that I would often lash out and get angry with them because I didn't know how to act with them and it was walking on eggshells since I couldn't talk about their stream or nijisanji (which is what they pretty much only wanted to talk bout) or myself and could only talk about anime or finding new houses without them blowing up and having a borderline meltdown on me. He would blame me for not wanting to stream. I sadly do not have "receipts" of this because this would happen during our voice calls. He created a lot of his own problems and would get stressed out when things didn't go his way, as apparent on his streams despite not setting things up in advance or properly.
If you want to know how unhinged Java has been in the past, I can confirm he made multiple Twitter accounts to harass people about not getting into Nijisanji, he would even tweet while we were streaming together. I couldn't tell you why, but I had to clean that up for him and lie it wasn't him if someone asked. He admitted to lying to his parents (whatever) and me (!!) about going to university and would go as far as to fake classes, homework, and iirc report cards. During GTA RP, he got banned from NoPixel for sexual harassment where he told a paramedic he had never interated with to "grab his balls". He wanted to come forward with the reasoning why he got banned but I had to stop him from that as well so that person wouldn't get harassed, as many were speculating stream sniping (which I have no doubt he did looking back and his past and now present behaviors). He did call that person a bitch for reporting him. He told me multiple times, in Nijisanji, as Luca, he wanted to "leak" a better selfie of him because he didn't like the one the dox site and others had. I had to stop him from bringing stuff up from 4chan. He admitted to being in the Lucub Discord. That he wanted to get rich and famous to "stick it" to Rob and others, such as his parents.
With that out of the way, we both were toxic to each other at various points, so I'm not going to sit here and say one outweighed the other. Honestly, we were both horrible towards each other towards the end of our friendship and I will absolutely admit to yelling at him, crying, melting down, guilt tripping, and getting irrationally upset due to the culmination of a lot of little things. I couldn't understand how he could vent to me, but if I vented to him it would end up in him getting upset and "cancelling stream" which would make me break down and feel worse. The straw that broke the camel's back was when he lied about doing a drunk stream (said he wasn't going to drink) and said he was only going to stream for 2 hours so we could hang out for a little where he proceeded to not only get drunk, but went well beyond 2 hours and ignored me. I called him out for lying and wasting my time, he had an extreme breakdown where he told me he "couldn't do this anymore" and said he didn't want to talk to me anymore.
Well, we did talk barely after that, where we kind of used each other as diaries about what was going on in our lives. After learning from Twitter he had a dog, I waited to see if he would tell me, he didn't, so I broke down for the final time and told him we needed to actually stop talking to each other. The only contact I've had from him since then is when he asked me for invoices so he could properly do his taxes. I had breakdowns in my car driving to school due to how this individual broke down my self esteem and isolated me towards the end of our friendship so yes, this is where my so called grudge and vitriol comes from.
Looking back, while we were great friends and made a lot of amazing memories together, towards the end he started throwing money at me in hopes that it would solve the problem of me wanted to hang out with him and that would make me happy instead. I had no other friends because when he as awake I was with him in a call, and sometimes even when he was asleep, along with doing projects for him. He cut off ties with a lot of our mutuals (and thus I didn't talk to them either) after getting into Niji unless they were large streamers but I was never allowed to talk to them (because I was small lmao) or his new friends in Niji despite them having and hanging out in personal Discords. So yes, getting yelled at constantly, being isolated, and acting as a ghost behind the scenes tore down my self esteem a lot and it took me over a year to recover, and I honestly I still am as I've developed social anxiety and have a hard time talking to people but I'm making great strides towards fixing that. Yes, again, Java/Luca and I were extremely abusive towards each other during the late stages of our friendship. Yes, looking back I think he used me a little bit and manipulated me by love bombing me, throwing money at the problem, and involving me in his WORK PROJECTS so I could feel closer to him.
RE: The "sexual harassment" stuff I tweeted about yesterday, he would constantly hump things or people on my stream, call out my physical features even though were were in VR, etc - but I did brush it off at the time and honestly I don't care anymore, I was just a lil heated/upset that people would call me all these nasty things when they don't know shit about our history. Java and I had a great past life. We joked about sexual shit like any friends do. We were also put into uncomfortable positions by people like Rob who lied to us about a "couples" game for his stream where he purposefully brought other, real life couples on, then us together to make things awkward where he proceeded to ask me stuff like "What is Java's penis size" where I had to guess (I did not know so I went with an average) and I am now being harassed about. So think before you post. In reality, we helped each other out a lot and nothing can change facts and that aspect at least.
TLDR: we were friends, his egocentric and problematic personality he had before Niji was fueled by getting into Nijisanji, then the the fame and the money got to his head to the point where he cut ties with all his friends and mutually led to us screaming at each other until we blew up and couldn't be friends anymore. Java/Luca often goes back on what he says and is a chronic liar, leading to many issues. That's the last time I will speak about this. Whether you want to believe me or not for whatever reason, it's not your story to tell. That's all. Thank you for reading.
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While not confirmed to be Luca she also posted this on her alternate twitter account and it seems to match the rest of her story
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Just a fun thing I noticed earlier:
Doki had to change her business inquiries email to her manager's personal email due to Google flagging her business account (lol).
If you check her Twitter bio, that email is bysovereign@gmail.com.
A quick search reveals that he's a manager at XSET, the esports organization Nocturnal is a part of, which is presumably how they met.
Anyway, glad to see she found someone competent to help out with the business side of things; wishing him the best of luck.
 
This is the beginning of the end for them, at least in the English market.
I think the bigger question is, what exactly is the point of NijiEn at this point? Hololive is more polished and 'idol' like, Vshojo caters to the coomers (Henya notwithstanding) , Phase has the most down to earth talents, and there are a plethora of indies out there to suit anyone's taste.
If by 'this is the end for them' you mean stagnation, then maybe. But when I hear these words, I imagine something like Niji closing the entire branch which is nowhere on the horizon. Their brand name is still huge. Newest female talent Victoria Brightshield (whom I assume is one of the least popular livers in NijiEN) still has view numbers comparable to the best of Idol Corp, and I think all NijiEN members consistently get more views than Hana Macchia. If NijiEN loses Rosemi and other big hitters, then maybe they will become third most popular English corpo on YouTube after Hololive and PC (Vshojo is mostly Twitch) and second biggest male vtuber group. Which is not great, but still gives better numbers than majority of vtubers. Also, one benefit of spending jack shit on managing talents and organizing events is that maintenance costs are low. I don't closely follow Nijisanji, but I think in the past they've only killed branches after it hat gotten really bad. I remember a year or two ago seeing some Indonesian male Nijisanji members stream to single digit concurrent viewers. I think this went on for several months before they finally graduated, although my memory's fuzzy on this. Another time when they disbanded a branch was Nijisanji India, and that was after a couple rebrands and those guys didn't even have proper microphones.
 
Nijisanji is getting fucking Financial Autist Community Noted by fucking GOLDMAN SACHS.
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When I first saw this, I had to make sure my leg wasn't being pulled. I couldn't find this on my own, so I just assumed that it was fake.
Let's put our worries about black companies aside and enjoy a nice bowl of Phase's deer maid. She's playing One Hand Clapping and cannot match the notes played to save her life.
Deer fujoshi is not musical.
 
If by 'this is the end for them' you mean stagnation, then maybe. But when I hear these words, I imagine something like Niji closing the entire branch which is nowhere on the horizon. Their brand name is still huge. Newest female talent Victoria Brightshield (whom I assume is one of the least popular livers in NijiEN) still has view numbers comparable to the best of Idol Corp, and I think all NijiEN members consistently get more views than Hana Macchia. If NijiEN loses Rosemi and other big hitters, then maybe they will become third most popular English corpo on YouTube after Hololive and PC (Vshojo is mostly Twitch) and second biggest male vtuber group. Which is not great, but still gives better numbers than majority of vtubers. Also, one benefit of spending jack shit on managing talents and organizing events is that maintenance costs are low. I don't closely follow Nijisanji, but I think in the past they've only killed branches after it hat gotten really bad. I remember a year or two ago seeing some Indonesian male Nijisanji members stream to single digit concurrent viewers. I think this went on for several months before they finally graduated, although my memory's fuzzy on this. Another time when they disbanded a branch was Nijisanji India, and that was after a couple rebrands and those guys didn't even have proper microphones.

For a public company, stagnation is the same as death. Anycolor can not continue to lose talent or they will suffer a serious loss of confidence from their shareholders. Going from 2nd to 3rd in the overseas market would destroy their valuation.
 
For a public company, stagnation is the same as death. Anycolor can not continue to lose talent or they will suffer a serious loss of confidence from their shareholders. Going from 2nd to 3rd in the overseas market would destroy their valuation.
Excellent point my good sir. People forget that Niji is a public company now. They have investors and shareholders to answer to, many of whom may have invested specifically because of Niji's overseas success. Any kind of contraction in the business is going to send them reeling and knocking on Niji's door and wondering why they failing to live up to their fiduciary duty.
 
Another fan merch site like Studio Nekomata (I thought they had a partnership with Anycolor, apologies for my previous mistake) is stopping production of Nijisanji goods:
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Also, for more financially literate kiwis, here's their Q2 financial report: https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym3/146950/00.pdf (also attached to the post)
In my opinion, one of the most important things for a vtuber agency is reputation, so the financial impact may very well end up being negligible considering how small EN's numbers are compared to the main branch, but when your current talents want to leave and potential new talents get antsy because they saw you lie in a press release and try to cover up an alleged suicide due to company and potentially talents bullying, you may be up shit creek with your "overseas expansion".
NijiEN implosion by the end of the year is optimistic on my part, I just hope Rosemi and Reimu can get out and farm some subs on their IRLs as well. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in the Niji offices (or Riku's yacht) right now...
 

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