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Putin Nearly Bores Tucker Carlson to Death With Two-Hour History Lesson​

The long-anticipated interview between former Fox News star Tucker Carlson and Russian President Vladimir Putin finally dropped on Thursday on X, making the longtime Putin defender the first Western “journalist” to sit down with the authoritarian leader since Russia invaded Ukraine.

Carlson began the more than two-hour long video with a brief monologue about his impressions following the interview, complaining that the two-hour conversation was longer than expected while adding that he emerged convinced that Putin’s long-stated belief in Russia’s historic claim to Ukrainian territory was sincere.

“Putin went on for a very long time, probably half an hour, about the history of Russia going back to the eighth century,” Carlson said. “We thought this was a filibustering technique and found it annoying and interrupted him several times, and he responded. He was annoyed by the interruption.”

“Vladimir Putin believes that Russia has a historic claim to parts of western Ukraine,” Carlson added. “So our opinion would be to view it in that light, as a sincere expression of what he thinks.”

When Carlson seemed to be unfamiliar with basic details preceding Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Putin snapped at the former Fox News host: “Are we having a talk show or a serious conversation?”

A long, drawn-out and thoroughly twisted history lesson would follow, which is one of Putin’s favored tactics. Apparently tuckered out by Putin’s spiel, Carlson pointed out, “I’m not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago.”

After the modified history lesson was over, Tucker asked an astonishing question, “But may I ask, you're making the case that Ukraine, certainly parts of Ukraine, eastern Ukraine is in effect Russia—has been for hundreds of years. Why wouldn't you just take it when you became president 24 years ago? You have nuclear weapons. They don't. It's actually your land. Why did you wait so long?”

Instead of responding, Putin delved into another history lesson, going back all the way to 1654 and prompting Carlson to ask, “Do you believe Hungary has a right to take its land back from Ukraine, and that other nations have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?”

When Putin demurred, Carlson persisted, “Have you told Viktor Orban that he can have part of Ukraine?” Putin replied, “Never. I have never told him. Not a single time.”

In the course of the interview, Putin revisited old grievances about Russia offering to join NATO and being rejected. He blamed the U.S. for helping Ukraine to get rid of its formerly pro-Russian presidents, to which Putin was accustomed. He recalled successfully pressuring Yanukovych into not signing an association agreement with the EU. Putin blamed Ukraine’s Revolution of Dignity on the CIA, noting, “the organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand. We should thank God they didn't let you in.”

With zero pushback from Carlson, Putin claimed that “they” (presumably, still talking about the CIA or Americans in general) “launched a large-scale military operation. Then another one. When they failed, they started to prepare the next one.”

Putin brazenly claimed, “Our goal is to stop this war. And we did not start this war in 2022. This is an attempt to stop it.” With no pushback whatsoever, Tucker asked, “Do you think you've stopped it now? I mean, have you achieved your aims?” Putin answered this rhetorical question by stating that so-called “de-Nazification” of Ukraine is yet to be completed.

In a comical exchange during the meandering interview, Tucker asked Putin: “Who blew up Nord Stream?” Putin replied, “You for sure.”

Carlson parried: “I was busy that day. I did not blow up Nord Stream. Thank you though.” Once again, Putin blamed the CIA, but refused to elaborate as to whether Russia has any evidence to prove that.

One of the leading questions Carlson asked attempted to blame NATO for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine: “Right before you sent troops into Ukraine, the vice president of the United States, went to the Munich Security Conference and encouraged the president of Ukraine to join NATO. Do you think that was an effort to provoke you into military action?”

Putin broke out in another long speech, complaining, “No one listens to us.”

Jumping from topic to topic, Putin assured Carlson he has no intention to invade Europe, claimed that Christianity does not stand in the way of the war Russia is waging in Ukraine and even threw in a comment about the owner of X (formerly Twitter): “I think there's no stopping Elon Musk.”

To his credit, Carlson asked Putin to release the Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich as a goodwill gesture. Putin harshly replied, “We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run out of them.” He added that this matter could be solved through appropriate channels.

Despite Ukraine’s heroic resistance and passionate commitment to its own Ukrainian identity, Putin claimed that even Ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield “still identify themselves as Russian” and described the bloody invasion as “an element of a civil war.”

He dramatically proclaimed that Ukrainians and Russians would be “reunited” in the end: “No one will be able to separate the soul.”

The proclamation concluded Putin’s two-hour history lesson, which included little if any pushback to the Russian leader’s perspective.

Tucker Carlson has been desperately seeking to interview Russian President Vladimir Putin even before he was formally recognized as a wanted war criminal, sought by the International Criminal Court (ICC). The designation did not repel the fired Fox News host and instead led him straight to Moscow, to shake hands with the man who spearheaded a bloody invasion of a neighboring nation, in his apparent quest to restore the Russian Empire.

Carlson revealed the slant of his inquiry even before the interview was released, portraying it as his noble attempt to inform clueless English-speaking audiences. He alleged this was necessary because “their media outlets are corrupt, they lie to their readers and viewers.”

Carlson asserted, “It is government propaganda, propaganda of the ugliest kind, the kind that kills people.” This declaration sounded especially preposterous, since it was uttered from Moscow—the capital of government propaganda that kills people. Government-controlled propagandists have long been cheering for Carlson to get this opportunity.

The spot where he stood to record the introduction spoke louder than words. Russian journalist, and political scientist Yevgenia Albats noted that for security reasons, this location is off-limits for most journalists: “The Ritz Carlton Hotel in Moscow stands right across from Red Square. Its roof is controlled by one of the KGB's successors, the Federal Security Service.”

Carlson claimed, “Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now. They’ve never heard his voice.” To the contrary, the coverage of this invasion, along with the Kremlin’s alleged rationale for doing so, has been extensively covered by Western media—including Putin’s own on-camera statements, immediately prior to the invasion and thereafter. Nonetheless, Tucker Carlson promised to deliversomething the English-speaking world hasn’t heard before—Putin’s perspective, undiluted and uncut.

Despite state media personalities, along with the Kremlin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov, denying their foreknowledge of this interview, they’ve announced that it would be released in its entirety and without cuts or editing — days before Tucker did.

While many are questioning Carlson’s motivation for pursuing this interview, Putin’s most likely rationale for sitting down with an unaffiliated vlogger was articulated by Henry Sardaryan, Dean of the School of Governance and Politics at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, during Wednesday's broadcast of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov. He explained, “They [Americans] were so afraid of election interference by the Russian Federation, so worried that Russia is influencing them! I don’t doubt that this interview alone, if it does not play a pivotal role, at the very least it will influence the outcome of these elections to an extraordinary degree.”

Appearing on 60 Minutes on Wednesday, political scientist Sergey Luzyanin said that Putin is “hammering this nail straight into the Western mainstream media” and described his interview with Carlson as “a slowly-burning fuse, leading to the tinderbox known as American elections 2024.” Luzyanin surmised that Americans will be opened up to the infusion of Putin’s undiluted talking points. He noted, “It will be just like Columbus discovering America!”

Thursday morning, state TV host Vladimir Solovyov described Carlson’s interview as Russia “beating the West with its own weapons.”
 
Honestly, I wish Tucker had watched some of Putin's past speeches/interviews going in. He seemed surprised about Prof. Putin's history of the fake ethnicity the Habsburgs made up. Apparently Putin's a massive history autist and just kinda does this. It very much felt like Tucker came in with the mindset of your standard podcast interview while Putin was expecting some kind of more serious, documentarian situation. Also there were some funny moments where Putin absolutely mogged Tucker, at one point during a question regarding the CIA backing Chechens Putin brought up that Tucker had tried to join the CIA and it came off like a veiled insult "oh you're a journalist thankfully, you couldn't make the CIA". Also that moment Putin named the Jew.
 
"NYOOOO YOU CAN'T INTERVIEW PUTLER THIS IS LITERALLY ERODING DEMOCRACY OR SOMETHING"
One Interview Later
"Haha, it was a nothing burger, don't look into it or watch it, it's really boring."

Journoscum and rope, match made in heaven.
I watched the interview. The only thing it proved to me is that we should keep giving the Ukrainians outdated weapons to kill ziggers with.
 
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I wasn't expecting the history.
 
“They [Americans] were so afraid of election interference by the Russian Federation, so worried that Russia is influencing them! I don’t doubt that this interview alone, if it does not play a pivotal role, at the very least it will influence the outcome of these elections to an extraordinary degree.”
Nobody bases their voting intentions on a fucking interview. Nobody does that. Journoscum wish people did, but they don't.
 
Oh well, he tried.

Did he give Tucker the "Ukraine is Russian clay" argument? Because Ukrainian history is more-or-less as follows:

- 400's onward: Slavs
- 602: Obliterated by Avars from what is now Hungary
- 602 - 700: Bulgars (not Ukrainian)
- 700 - 880: Khazars (not Ukrainian); nomadic tribes would keep South-East Ukraine & Crimea for 5-9 centuries after
- 880 - 1240: Kiev (precedes Russia) -> only had the western part of the Ukraine
- 1240 - 1392: Galicia-Volhynia (Sibling under Kiev) -> only the northwest-and-west of Ukraine, was a Mongol puppet
- 1240 - 1441: Golden Horde -> last piece of the Mongol Empire, held the Southeast and Crimea
- 1392 - 1569: Lithuania (Baltic) -> held the northwest and west until getting fused with Poland into the Commonwealth
- 1441 - 1783: Crimean Khanate -> held the Southeast & Crimea for a long time, also Europe's biggest slavers
- 1569 - 1793: Commonwealth (Polish) -> held Kyiv itself for this duration, despite many Cossack and Ottoman screwings
- 1648 - 1772: Cossack States -> generally Russia-backed rebels still considered part of the Commonwealth
- 1672 - 1774: Ottoman Empire -> held southern Ukraine, and had the Crimean Khanate (Crimea & Southeast) as a vassal
- 1772 - 1918: Austria -> held the far west of Ukraine until the Great War
- 1793 - 1917: Russia -> clamped down on the Cossacks, took land from Ottomans and Crimeans and all of that
- 1917: Soviets -> They bungled it by thinking Germany would wait for them to sign the peace treaty in the Great War
- 1917 - 1918: A German attempt at American-style nation-building to get the Ukraine up as an anti-Commie thingy
- 1918 - 1919: A local Socialist state (or twenty) following Germany getting tugged out of the region by Versailles
- 1919 - 1922: Soviets invade, because it's not real Communism, and drag it to the USSR's founding as an O.G. member
- 1922 - 1945: Russia's favorite pet in the USSR (despite the Holodomor)
- 1941: Hitler invokes the Ukrainians' seething hatred of its medieval lords by having them genocide Poles after invading
- 1945: The USSR makes Ukraine and Belarus semi-independent on paper, so it can have 3 UN seats instead of just 1
- 1954: Russia hands Crimea over to Ukraine (thinking it's fine because they're both in the USSR - whoops)
- 1991: Ukraine declares formal independence from the USSR, though it's still an SSR until December 26th

If there's one non-sequitor takeaway from all of this, it's that Crimea being a part of Russia has more historic precedence than Crimea being a part of Ukraine; unless you make the assertion that the Crimean Khanate was authentically Ukrainian, anyway, despite the slavery. Also, Ukraine is only a little more legitimate as a European nation-state than Belgium; it does have its own language, though, so there's that.
 
When Carlson seemed to be unfamiliar with basic details preceding Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Putin snapped at the former Fox News host: “Are we having a talk show or a serious conversation?”
Carlson is talk show tier.
He recalled successfully pressuring Yanukovych into not signing an association agreement with the EU. Putin blamed Ukraine’s Revolution of Dignity on the CIA, noting, “the organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand. We should thank God they didn't let you in.”
MOGGED!
Putin broke out in another long speech, complaining, “No one listens to us.”
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even threw in a comment about the owner of X (formerly Twitter): “I think there's no stopping Elon Musk.”
He's an Elon stan.
To his credit, Carlson asked Putin to release the Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich as a goodwill gesture. Putin harshly replied, “We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run out of them.” He added that this matter could be solved through appropriate channels.
I'm not surprised it didn't work, that would look bad on any government to do something just because a journalist asked in an interview.
Putin claimed that even Ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield “still identify themselves as Russian” and described the bloody invasion as “an element of a civil war.”
Even if it was a civil war, he inflamed it by holding fake votes in the Russian speaking regions, taking Crimea and invading Ukraine.
Carlson revealed the slant of his inquiry even before the interview was released, portraying it as his noble attempt to inform clueless English-speaking audiences. He alleged this was necessary because “their media outlets are corrupt, they lie to their readers and viewers.”
Oh but Russian ones aren't.
They’ve never heard his voice.
They've definitely heard his comments translated on the news.
 
Man imagine being such a lying cunt you even try to deny that the CIA were involved during the Maidan.

Of course they were. It was a revolution/coup designed to align a state with US interests. There was no way they werent there. They've been pulling this shit since the cold war and we're meant to believe that just this one time they arent involved?
 
Did he give Tucker the "Ukraine is Russian clay" argument? Because Ukrainian history is more-or-less as follows:
Yes, he made the same tired, historically diluted, lying-ass "argument" as he has for years now. The entire "interview" was RT Propaganda directly from the man behind the curtain. Watch it if you want, its genuinely boring.
>waah I invaded Ukraine because Ukraine doesn't exist ACCORDING TO ME!!!!
>NATO boogeyman AT MY FUCKING DOORSTEP!!!!! 300 BILLION BLACK JETS OF NATO!!!!!
>WHY DON'T MY FORMER CLIENT STATES LOVE ME? Yeah, I know the old me abused the shit out of them but that's old history!! Cmon guys, water under the bridge!
>I'M THE REAL VICTIM HERE!!!!
>No I will NOT address why I'm wanted by the ICC for deporting children.
>No I will NOT address why my country can't fix ComBloc heating in the dead of winter
>waaaah west doesn't take me seriously!! 😭😭😭😭
Man imagine being such a lying cunt you even try to deny that the CIA were involved during the Maidan.

Of course they were. It was a revolution/coup designed to align a state with US interests. There was no way they werent there. They've been pulling this shit since the cold war and we're meant to believe that just this one time they arent involved?
Why do you opp niggas keep crying about the CIA? Are American government intelligence agencies that fucking scary to you?
Have you niggas ever considered why Ukraine has wanted to join the EU? Perhaps for economic stability? Liberties and freedoms?

Ukraine has wanted to join the EU for years and Putin didn't want that. He bribed Yanukovich with an instant $15 billion loan, ready to go if he ditched the EU treaty that had been negotiated for years. And the people of Ukraine got fucking mad about that. Yanukovich made a middle-of-the-night call to Putin begging him to leave. So Yanukovich left, like the pussy he is, and is still in exile in Russia.

Is a grassroots uprising such a hard concept for you opp niggas to understand?

Putin lost trying to do a silent takeover in Ukraine so he went hot. Now 300,000 Russian men are fertilizer in East Ukraine.
 
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