Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

snov said:
What’s the overlap between these creeps, trannies, and furfag paedos? I suspect it’s just one big circle.
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It's the same circle. They even held a convention last summer.

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Think they'll have another one this year?
 
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snov said:
Good point. I’ll be Team Blue then. It’s nothing personal, it’s just that your country is trying to destroy mine.

Ignorant westoids need to just shut up about this, it’s a complex issue they’re not equipped to understand. Stalin didn’t cause it, not even in a “failed agricultural reform” manner, it was a natural disaster that affected all Eurasia. In fact Stalin sent enormous amounts of aid to the worst afflicted republics, Ukraine top of that list. Oinkers will cry about muh kulaks, ignoring the fact that these worms were not only hiding grain from the state (which was confiscating it in order to redistribute it to alleviate starvation), but selling it at utterly extortionate rates to their very neighbours. There was no genocide of them either (they’re not a group capable of being genocided), but semantics aside they deserved every last bit of what they got, and every reasonable human capable of comprehending the situation would feel the same. You’d have to be a psychopath to think hoarding grain during a famine is not a thoroughly evil act.
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You want to redefine what the Holdomor was, you better start providing sources other then 'trust me bro'.
 
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Gondolindrim said:
These dudes are having a meltdown. It's very clear they A. Didn't watch the interview and B. Are under orders to shame anyone who did. You can tell they're mad that "Putler" wasn't a screaming wreck like Zelensky and maintained his composure. Can't keep up the genocidal maniac narrative if the guy is seen bing reasonable.
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bro the interview was really bad it's so bad trust me, you don't even need to watch it, just look at this meme where i call putler a retard haha
 
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Romeo said:
You proclaim Russia to be a "Christian nation" and yet your country hosts many ethnic republics like Chechnya and Buryatia dedicated to different religions such as Islam and Buddhism. Do you think that such a proclamation may isolate these believers that they are not considered "Russian" if they don't follow the ways of Christ? An example is that Malaysia for a time did not considered a Malay to be an ethnic Malay unless he was Muslim.
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He actually answered that and was actually very careful about that.
Transcript from kremlin.ru (http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411)
Вы знаете, как я уже сказал, в 988 году князь Владимир крестил, сам крестился по примеру своей бабки – княгини Ольги, а потом крестил свою дружину, а потом постепенно, в течение нескольких лет, крестил и всю Русь. Это был длительный процесс – от язычников к христианам, много лет занял. Но в конечном итоге это православие, восточное христианство, оно глубоко укоренилось в сознании русского народа.

Когда Россия расширялась и впитывала в себя другие народы, которые исповедуют ислам, буддизм, иудаизм, Россия всегда относилась очень лояльно к тем людям, которые исповедуют другие религии. В этом её сила. Это абсолютно однозначно.
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He outlined how orthodoxy is core to the "русский народ". When talking about russians, theres русский (ethnicity) and россиянин (nationality).
Thus, chechen is not русский but he is россиянин. They are still russian by nationality even if their beliefs and customs are different from ones of russian people.
 
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potato in mah painus said:
You want to redefine what the Holdomor was, you better start providing sources other then 'trust me bro'.
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Read a history book, ignorant westoid.

Which part are you confused about? That kulaks are parasites? I can provide you a quote from the very best source imaginable.
The class-conscious worker’s programme is the closest alliance and complete unity with the poor peasants; concessions to and agreement with the middle peasants; ruthless suppression of the kulaks, those bloodsuckers, vampires, plunderers of the people and profiteers, who batten on famine. That is the policy of the working class.
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That the famine struck a far wider region than just the Ukraine? This is disputed only by the dumbest of hohols, even westoid propaganda acknowledges it.
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That the famine was not intentionally created to "punish" Ukrainians? Some very basic rational thought disproves this imbecilic line of thought. The famine was disastrous for the entire Soviet Union, and furthermore dramatically weakened it internationally in a period where it daily faced the threat of sanction and invasion from western savages.
 
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Rubick said:
Stalin's push for squeezing as much grain for export(As this was needed to build up Soviet industry), partially made this matter.

And in this case he did it on false data.
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1929-31: Liquidation of the kulaks (i.e. everyone who owned a farm)
1932: Agricultural productivity collapses, famine
1932-33: Export 1.8 million tons of grain, mostly to the evil capitalists in the West
Also 1932-33: 5-8 million people starve
Total grain needed to feed 5 million people: About 2 tons

Clearly, the kulaks caused the famine by hoarding grain for profit, they must have somehow brought it to the gulag system or perhaps hid it inside the mass graves they were in. Nevermind that grain we sold overseas for profit, it's cool when we do it. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, and Stalin needs to sell about 1.8 million tons of grain to foreigners more than you need to eat.
 
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SaidNoOneEver said:
More Ukraine military shakeups. This time they promoted the guy who thought hiring a deranged troon to be "Spokewoman" was a great idea to win Western support.
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Barhylevych was only appointed to run the territorial forces in October 2023. I think he got the job due to the spokestranny scandal with Senator J.D. Vance. His appointment today is a sign though of them running low on senior leadership candidates in the military.
 
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So. did Poles actually collaborate with Nazis? Treat me like I'm retarded and don't know anything. It was pretty funny when Putin just dropped that one.
 
Yeah it doesn't seem like they really "collaborated" per se... just that they took what was there for the taking and the Nazis were simply there too.
 
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