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So what you're saying here is that this gentleman Elliot, who goes by the name of Liz Fong-Jones, is a rapist? So that means when Liz Fong-Jones, who uses the username of lizthegrey on multiple platforms, who is the field CTO of the tech company honeycomb.io (the same honeycomb.io that specializes in observability platforms on their website https://www.honeycomb.io) says that they committed a "consent accident", Liz Fong-Jones is admitting that they are a rapist and that they raped somebody because they love rape?
Fascinating, I sure hope Google picks this up in their search engine.
So what they're saying here is that this gentleman Elliot, who goes by the name of Liz Fong-Jones, is a rapist. That means when Liz Fong-Jones (lizf@honeycomb.io), who uses the username of lizthegrey on multiple platforms, who is the field CTO of the tech company Honeycomb (the same honeycomb.io that specializes in observability platforms on their website https://www.honeycomb.io) says that they committed a "consent accident", Liz Fong-Jones is admitting that they are a rapist and that they raped somebody because they love rape:
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
Sigh, I was hoping not to have to do this, but now that the other party in this is publicly discussing her side, I need to be transparent and accountable while defending myself (and hopefully not make the situation worse). [thread. cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
I'm not going to name her, but she has chosen to discuss the incident and name me, so I feel I have no choice but to respond, and to do so publicly in order to explain my view of the circumstances and clear my name. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
This attempts to describe a consent accident that occurred on November 3 in Zurich. I'm going to try to, as carefully as I can, conduct a blameless retrospective about what happened. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
I have known the person who accuses me of sexual assault for over 8+ years. And relevantly, she has known that I once had a psychiatric service animal, that that dog recently passed away, but that my family still has another dog. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
And conversely, I have known for the 8+ years that she has an intense phobia of encountering live dogs in person. What I did not know, and what she did not communicate, is that her phobia also extends to encountering dog hair on clothing [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
You can probably see where this is going. I thought she was aware that there was a dog in my house, and that there might be some residual dog hair on my clothing. I asked if I could stay with her and she said yes. Ditto playing. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
Afterwards, she noticed that there was dog hair on my clothes, which she had not noticed before, and had not communicated to me was going to be a problem, despite us socializing for days prior and her seeing my clothing beforehand. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
If I had known that her phobia of dogs extended to dog hair on other peoples' clothing, I never would have asked to enter her home, or to play. However, there is literally no way I could have known, and she did not communicate that need. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
So, her cPTSD was triggered, she reacted as if I had sexually assaulted her, and... here we are. Rather than letting rumors spread, I'd rather be proactive and communicate exactly what happened, why someone might accuse me of assault... [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
She genuinely believes that I have sexually assaulted her. And I considered her a friend and am genuinely sorry for what she's going through, but feel that a blameless perspective would try to examine how the miscommunication happened. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
In my view, this was neither foreseeable nor deliberate. I sincerely wish that we had each communicated our circumstances and needs better, but there is nothing I can do about it now that the damage has been done. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
I hope that she heals. I understand she may need to talk about it in order to heal or get closure. She has asked me to never contact her again, and I am doing my best to abide by it (Slack missing a block feature notwithstanding). [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
but I also cannot allow myself to get smeared without stating what my experience/viewpoint was, nor can I allow myself to be the target of attempts to psychologically harm me in return. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
I understand that she's feeling suicidal and traumatized, but... it is counterproductive to try to attack me to the point of me becoming suicidal too. This was always going to be a mistake I was going to regret for the rest of my life
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
So I don't know what to do other than be clear and transparent to the community, and... otherwise try to give her space. if this results in consequences for me, then they very well may be consequences I deserve. You be the judge. [cw: allegations of sexual assault, cPTSD] [fin]
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
(note: please please please do not try to identify or deanonymize her or take any action against her. the last thing I want is a further escalation of the situation. all I want here is for things to deescalate and for both of us to heal from this. it's a shitty situation.)
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)Verified account @lizthegrey
In short: (1) Liz lives with a dog. Liz's clothing has dog hair on it. (3) Liz had consensual sex with someone. (4) That person has phobia of dog hair and didn't say so. (5) That person thinks Liz deliberately/maliciously got dog hair on her. (6) She accuses Liz of sexual assault
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)
@lizthegrey
Replying to @RealSexyCyborg @danielrheath
Consent accidents do occasionally happen. It's part of the risk-aware of "risk-aware consensual kink"...
and I think that when they do, we need to be able to understand what happened, rather than lashing out, or blanket just denying that anything happened, both of which suck...
6:01 PM - 21 Nov 2019
https://web.archive.org/web/20191122010933/https://twitter.com/lizthegrey/status/1197657127701110786
sorry for the text copy/paste but i use lynx to browse the web
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