Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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Can I propose a third reason? After wrangling the disaster that is Russ for months, they simply never want deal with him again. They have no obligation to him, they know he's broke, why would they ever want to get involved again?

I think this is likely. Russ is the type of client that you're beyond happy to see the back of. Demanding and utterly exhausting, I suspect if they had known what he was actually like to work with they wouldn't have taken the case, even if they did win a victory for the cause.

At the same time the text message to them he included in his filing seems to suggest they have been giving him some limited advice. He implied he used their advice re harassment. So maybe they're willing to keep working with him if he can get the money.

I guess we'll see what happens with the appeal to SCOTUS. If they don't work with him at the district level but do if SCOTUS takes up the case, I feel that says a lot about their morals.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

I guess we'll see what happens with the appeal to SCOTUS. If they don't work with him at the district level but do if SCOTUS takes up the case, I feel that says a lot about their morals.

Lawyers having terrible morals? No way

 

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Lawyers having terrible morals? No way

First, kill all the lawyers!

(Except the Kiwi ones, yall are good eggs)

 

[Cynically Insane]

Russ is still CCing his former lawyers on every filing and every email. How annoying. My guess is that they told him they don't represent him anymore and gave him an insurmountable list of things to do to rehire them. The big one is no doubt money. My bet would be that another one of the items is to stop contacting them until he has the retainer. They could even be asking him to pay for their time spent dealing with him since the appeal was won. How many extra hours would you have to allow for to cover Russ's incessant communications.

I have a theory that any communication with Russ that exceeds 2 responses could be construed as harassment. He doesn't know any other way than pestering, coercion and extortion.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I have never been so excited for a weekend to end. What will Monday bring? Will we get an order on the stay request? Will we get more spergging from Russ? Will Hardin make more filings that inspire him into getting even crazier?

The "emergency" request for stay was filed on Tuesday, right? And Russ previously said he'd file the proposed schedule by last Thursday the 8th.

I don't know how fast federal courts are supposed to move, but we now have an emergency request and a missed deadline on the books. Even if they want to wait out the sperging, someone should step in and say yes/no a few times.

 

[AnOminous]

First, kill all the lawyers!

Fun fact, that Shakespeare quote doesn't actually mean what most people think it does.

 

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Fun fact, that Shakespeare quote doesn't actually mean what most people think it does.

Yep. This is a decent breakdown of the quotes meaning. Shakespeare was a pretty smart dude.

https://lithub.com/what-did-shakespeare-mean-when-he-wrote-lets-kill-all-the-lawyers/

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I don't know how fast federal courts are supposed to move, but we now have an emergency request and a missed deadline on the books.

Emergency requests, motions for stay, and extension of time are usually resolved pretty fast. The last extension he requested was resolved in three days.

 

[DavidS877]

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Emergency requests, motions for stay, and extension of time are usually resolved pretty fast. The last extension he requested was resolved in three days.

Can't tell if this was sent to the totally wrong address(with a street that didn't exist) that Greer thought was us mocking him using a PMB or if the PMB bounced it.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Yep. This is a decent breakdown of the quotes meaning. Shakespeare was a pretty smart dude.

https://lithub.com/what-did-shakespeare-mean-when-he-wrote-lets-kill-all-the-lawyers/

Another aspect of English legal history at the time was that a huge proportion of English land had been put in a proto-form of trust, which derived from the cestui que use, whereby equitable title and beneficial title in property had been split. This was a way of ensuring easier conveyance of land to heirs while avoiding the vesting of land back in the feudal lord and the expenses entailed in getting the land back. Lawyers were the ones often employed for such "uses." I don't have my copy of Baker's Introduction to English Legal History handy, but he cites an absurd percentage of land that was in "use" by the 1500s—something like 80%. So you have to understand the quote in further context that lawyers had inordinate control over most of the land in the country due to the development of a mechanism to more easily convey land, which would obviously lead to distrust and scorn.

The magistrate overseeing the docket probably wonders every day if this is what he went to law school to do. The judge probably doesn't even know the extent of Russ's bullshit.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Can't tell if this was sent to the totally wrong address(with a street that didn't exist)

Greer had submitted an address that doesn’t exist. See:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/greer-v-moon-no-20-cv-00647-d-utah-sep-16-2020.174285/post-17547028

He put South where it should be East. South does not exist, East does.

 

[AnOminous]

Emergency requests, motions for stay, and extension of time are usually resolved pretty fast. The last extension he requested was resolved in three days.

This is the sort of utter nonsense that definitely calls for an OP update, but I'm running out of space in that.

Greer had submitted an address that doesn’t exist. See:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/greer-v-moon-no-20-cv-00647-d-utah-sep-16-2020.174285/post-17547028

He put South where it should be East. South does not exist, East does.

Here we go in Greer world, when you wondered how someone could fuck something up and he somehow fucked it up in a completely new way.

 

[DavidS877]

Greer had submitted an address that doesn’t exist. See:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/greer-v-moon-no-20-cv-00647-d-utah-sep-16-2020.174285/post-17547028

He put South where it should be East. South does not exist, East does.

Exactly. Did Hardin send it to that wrong address or did he correct it first and then the mailbox place bounced it because the bill wasn't paid or similar.

I guess Hardin is a lawyer, so he would have to send it to the address he was told to send it to.

As of the 7th. Greer is still using the wrong address in his submissions.

Greer... we weren't making fun of you for using a private mailbox company. We were making fun of you because YOU GOT YOUR OWN FUCKING ADDRESS WRONG.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

This is the sort of utter nonsense that definitely calls for an OP update, but I'm running out of space in that.

I’m 99% sure you had made an additional [reserved] post that you later deleted. @Trombonista is there an additional deleted post right after the OP?

Edit: I see the post got restored. Thank you.

Did Hardin send it to that wrong address or did he correct it first

I imagine he sent it to the listed address without any modifications.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

I imagine he sent it to the listed address without any modifications.

Is this just a clerical error that gets ignored by the court or will this add to the court getting pissed off at Russell?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Is this just a clerical error that gets ignored by the court or will this add to the court getting pissed off at Russell?

Literally why would they care?

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

Literally why would they care?

That's why I was asking. There's so much to be pissed about with Russell, just wondering if this was something else

 

[AnOminous]

Literally why would they care?

This is pretty much standard pro se idiot behavior. This dumb bastard can't even manage to maintain an address.

All other parties have to cope with his retardation.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

I wish Null could sue Greer for wasting everyone's time.

 

[R00T]

“Ya honor I couldn’t possibly respond to the complaints because it never even arrived!”

Truly legal genius here. Russell has bested us all.