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There's also that oft mentioned thing abut how the left communicates completely fundamentally differently than memes. I am not doing the explanation justice, but basically leftist communication requires vast amounts of assumed reality (that may not actually have anything to do with reality). It's why when they try and meme they add paragraphs and paragraphs of text into it -- because they have to set up the assumed reality constraints. Without them, you might not take away the approved and intended thought-reaction to the meme.

A meme mocking drag queen story hour takes 3-5 words, cause it's absurd pedophilia and child abuse on it's face and all you have to do is point to it and go "shit's fucked yo." A meme defending drag queen story hour requires paragraphs of text, because you have to insert the assumptions that it's not evil, that they're saintly victims, that while not homosexuals nor trans they're part of the "allyship" and thus deserve the same protected status, that it's a good thing to groom children, etc etc. Completely different and incompatible communication styles.
Yes, I remember that 4chan post but I didn't want to just fully rehash that because I don't like repeating what others say ad verbum as if it was what I came up with.

I might have it saved but it'd take me an hour to even find it because I never name my shit, but it was something along the lines that right wing memes are based on the common perception of reality, so they are funny because all the context needed for them to be funny, everyone knows it.

The leftist ideology has to fight reality, it's antithetical to it. So the only way the left can make a meme is to preface them with all this context that bends the reality into a way that benefits their ideology, so they automatically lose to the right wing memes that just take direct jabs at reality.

So, for example, a meme joking about a troon. Everyone sees them for what they are, disgusting perverted freaks with mutilated genitals, so taking potshots at their expense is easy, short and concise. Much like any good joke is. And right wing memes are really just that, jokes about our reality.

But the leftists want to do the opposite, they have to glorify troons as some pristine creature that can do no harm and everyone should support it. They have to make up a metric fuckton of bullshit to counteract the reality of the situation, and they treat memes as this political weapon of indoctrination, not a vehicle for comedy.

These two go hand in hand, not understanding how memes come to be and what their purpose is. To us, it's for joking about our reality. To them, it's a propaganda tool.
 
Probably trying to secure the zoomer votes. with the whole "Yes we are the hip and totally cool political party with these fresh dank memes broskis."
fresh dank memes you stole from people using it as a way to say you're a tyrant.

This thing is so out of touch it's still slitting it's wrists about religion and jacking off about atheism.

But I'm sure reminding people you tried to nuke them is a winning move though, like stanning swift. So please, keep going.
 
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Man, I love this shit. First the obviously synthetic NAFO movement where a bunch of major leftist state heads from Europe are openly associating with the "movement", and now this. Leftists saw how effective all the right wing memes were during the 2016 election, like Shadilay, meme magic and all that, and they want to try and do the same with their election to get the votes.

What they don't understand though is that the right wing memes started naturally. Trump supporters on 4chan liked Trump, they started making memes about him because they liked him, and it went from there. The right wing memes began naturally and were a form of affirmation of support for a candidate the people who initiated the memes had initially. They think that memes can be forced, and that people like a candidate because of the memes, and not that the memes happen because the people already like a candidate.

People fucking despise Biden, they want him out of the office and would rather have Trump back just because he's the only other option and he's a better face for the United States of fucking America than a senile demented walking corpse that can't do a proper public speech, and you're not gonna suddenly sway people into believing that Biden is actually cool and people should vote for him. You had four years to make people believe that much like you made people believe Trump was the antichrist and he should be executed.

This is why the left can't meme. They don't understand the nature of memes, that they happen because of what people already believe or because people laugh at our reality, and that they're the result of people's beliefs, not the cause. To them, it's a political propaganda weapon that can be manufactured, but to push their agenda, like everything, can only be synthetic, not natural, so it always inevitably fails.
Big agree, the Democrat establishment is as artificial as it gets in terms of "culture". Anyone remember Elizabeth Warren's "Meme-Team"? The Bernie memes were also weak as fuck, albeit not nearly as atrocious.
 
What does the "just as I drew" thing mean in the meme (I can't be bothered searching back through the thread for the exact words). Is this a Burger thing?
 
The left are so creatively bankrupt it hurts…

“Did Trump win because he had a message that a wide array of Americans agreed with?

… no, it must of been the memes”



I also hate this weird need for people to be.. flippant? Like instead of just answering a question, having a need to try and be subversive with it.

Like I get being asked if you rigged a Super Bowl game is dumb, but as a leader you shouldn’t answer that with a “mAyBe I dId :smug:”.
It’s the same when you accuse gays of being pedos and they answer “oH yEr wE fUcK all tHe KiDs ObViOuLy”.
Like I know you think your joking but it’s also revealing in a way I think their too stupid to understand.
 
This is why the left can't meme. They don't understand the nature of memes, that they happen because of what people already believe or because people laugh at our reality, and that they're the result of people's beliefs, not the cause. To them, it's a political propaganda weapon that can be manufactured, but to push their agenda, like everything, can only be synthetic, not natural, so it always inevitably fails.
They treat memes the same way they treat any cultural element they touch - Rather than recognizing the wants and needs of the people involved, they just dictate a goal, attempt to replicate the outcome of having done so, and call it a day. The left can't meme for the same reason the left can't reduce crime, They don't understand the source and have no interest in actually engaging with it, they just want the result now.

I'm not even sure how you'd get any pro-biden grassroot memes, one of the fundamental basis is that you need to roll with popular public perception, good or bad. Trump's early god emperor memes were just as much making fun of his golden orange fake tans as they were making fun of and embracing his opposition seeing him as an awful tyrant. Biden memes would have to start by playing into his lack of mental faculties, or his habit of telling stories. Instead, they just copy memes that apply to other people and their own oddities and failings, and it just doesn't click.
 
He has Spasmodic Dysphonia. A rare neurological disease that makes your voice spasm uncontrollably. Nothing you can do about it sadly.

Started happening at the age of 46. He gives a rundown of it here starting at 1:30
It's so weird in that a guitarist I work with got this about two years ago. He's in his 50s. Really sad as he used to sing as well and he can't sing anymore.

Also, I used to teach at a music school in the 90s. I'm still friendly with my old boss and he just developed this last year. He's in his early 60s. Both of them sound just like Kennedy when they talk.

I'm assume it's something that affects people later in life. I know you said it's rare but it's so weird that in the past two years I know two people this has affected. And it's something I've never seen before.
 
It's so weird in that a guitarist I work with got this about two years ago. He's in his 50s. Really sad as he used to sing as well and he can't sing anymore.

Also, I used to teach at a music school in the 90s. I'm still friendly with my old boss and he just developed this last year. He's in his early 60s. Both of them sound just like Kennedy when they talk.

I'm assume it's something that affects people later in life. I know you said it's rare but it's so weird that in the past two years I know two people this has affected. And it's something I've never seen before.
💉I wonder what a possible cause could be💉
💉Perhaps something that was mandated all over the world three years ago💉
💉But I'm having a hard time figuring it out💉
 
The funding bills have automatic Trump Impeachment built in to them, just in case he tries to stop the gravy train in 2025.
Unless things have changed since law school, the present Congress can't pass spending bills that would somehow bind a future Congress. So it seems legally dubious that the 117th Congress now sitting could attach a condition to a spending bill that would have to be passed by the 118th Congress purporting to bind the executive. And spending bills are simply bills giving the executive the authorization to spend. The legislative branch, under the separation of powers doctrine, force the executive to spend what they authorize.
As for it being legal, it doesn't matter if it's legal or not. It just has to give them an excuse to initiate lawfare for his entire 2nd term, preventing the gravy train from being stopped via injunctions from Hawaii judges and wasting his time and capital to prevent him from doing anything. They literally do not care if it's constitutional or legal. The only way the constitution can stop them is if you rolled it up and beat them to death with it.
Yeah, the legal theory and principles and precepts go right out the window when you're talking about Washington. To paraphrase Thucydides, the governing class do what they want, and the electorate suffer what they must.
 
They are going to impeach him either way if he actually carries out gutting agencies. Ukraine is actually a great reason for Trump. Easily defensible and wont be popular with the general electorate that would have voted him in. Forced foreign aid is a dream scenario for a president for Congress to impeach them on.
 
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