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Halfnium Bomb said:
Hitler (I mean, temporarily) brought great prosperity to his country. Bush brought great prosperity to the Military Industrial Complex.

Be real with me kiwibros, was this one a glow-op or not?
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I would say it is the worst thing the Fed did during the Clinton admin, but they also did Waco and they did shoot down a civilian airlines and gaslight everyone about it too so the competition is very tight.
 
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Betonhaus said:
20 years fighting on the area only to have such a humiliating defeat because old man Joe wanted to abandon the strongest base first to win political points.
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You're confusing Afghanistan for Iraq. Two separate conflicts. We won Iraq. It's basically a colony at this point. The Iraq War was won and I'm tired of people saying it wasn't.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
To be fair, I had zero choice. I was 2 when the invasion happened. You can either cry and bitch about "war crimes", or look at the fact we DID win the war. I'd rather be happy about victory. Besides, Saddam was a nigger that had it coming.
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Saddam wasn't a great guy by any means but the invasion of Iraq was a mistake in the grand scheme of American foreign policy for the following reasons:
1. Justification for it was questionable in the first place.
2. Saddam's deposition and later execution opened up a power vacuum that would later lead into the terror of ISIS.
3. Iran expanded its sphere of influence by supporting factions in a country faced with sectarian violence and a unstable republican form of government.
4. More American soldiers died in Iraq then in Afghanistan.
5. Low-intensity hostilities continue to this day.

Out of all of this the USA got what? A toppled autocrat and some military bases? Still went better then the invasion that was started to ostensibly hunt down bin Laden I guess.
 
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Breadbassket said:
Saddam wasn't a great guy by any means but the invasion of Iraq was a mistake in the grand scheme of American foreign policy for the following reasons:
1. Justification for it was questionable in the first place.
2. Saddam's deposition and later execution opened up a power vacuum that would later into the terror of ISIS.
3. Iran expanded its sphere of influence by supporting factions in a country faced with sectarian violence and a unstable republican form of government.
4. More American soldiers died in Iraq then in Afghanistan.
5. Low-intensity hostilities continue to this day.

Out of all of this the USA got what? A toppled autocrat and some military bases? Still went better then Afghanistan I guess.
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I'm not saying we won much, just that we did win. The conditions for victory were in fact met. I do agree though the power vacuum issue was a major fuckup and lead us to the unchecked Iran of today.
 
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Halfnium Bomb said:
Be real with me kiwibros, was this one a glow-op or not?
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Oh certainly. The presence of all the alleged dead kids should have tipped you off immediately. They love to use kid-death, real or fake, in their glow-ops. Like the Newtown 'shooting' they tried to use for gun control, but had to salvage to fuck over Alex Jones when their gun-grabbing push failed.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
Because you never leave a job half finished.
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How old are you, because I was 7 in 2003 when the GWOT started and I had an inkling even then that it was bullshit. Why would some random ass Moddle Eastern dictator (which is full of them) try to destroy America for a failed invasion of Kuwait 10 years prior? Why would he need WMDs when he has the respect of his people due to his power? That's a surefire way to get your ass invaded (if it were true anyway).

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In that time we could have focused on securing all the oil in Venezuela and Brazil which is more than enough for us. Instead we let Venezuela and Brazil go socialist.
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Fuck the Monroe Doctrine. Let's fuck around in the Middle East to increase the shares of Raytheon and Boeing so we can make a killing. We shoukdn't be having sane diplomatic talks with our neighbord in the Western Hemusphere to ensure our and their own safety. We should care about random ass dunecoons becuase Israel.
 
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draggs said:
Every Republican president and every Republican presidential nominee except six have been portrayed exactly the same way by the Democratic Party, a dire threat who was going to destroy the nation

Those six were

Coolidge because he was so dry as fuck and didn't engage in mudslinging, he just gave highly intellectual speeches about muh philosophy of gubbmint. He didn't even acknowledge much less attack his opponent in two elections

Hayes because he agreed to end Reconstruction

Garfield and Arthur because Democrats were still in hog heaven about Reconstruction ending

Hoover because they said he'd already destroyed the country via the Depression

Ford because they knew they would win just by continuing to bitch about Nixon

Every single one except those six were going to destroy the country by allowing niggers to fuck white women or something, or were going to destroy the country with tariffs, or were going to destroy the country by refusing the silver standard, or were going to destroy the country with imperialism/getting us into WWI, or were going to destroy the country by going super duper fascist extreme (this has been the longest one, every single Republican president or nominee since 1936 has got tagged by this one)
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"A vote for Goldwater is a vote for war in Vietnam!"
 
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Geddy Lee's Fee and See said:
How old are you, because I was 7 in 2003 when the GWOT started and I had an inkling even then that it was bullshit. Why would some random ass Moddle Eastern dictator (which is full of them) try to destroy America for a failed invasion of Kuwait 10 years prior? Why would he need WMDs when he has the respect of his people due to his power? That's a surefire way to get your ass invaded (if it were true anyway).
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He's got 99 in the username and has been outspoken about being a zoomie-zoom, he does not remember a world before the global war on terror.
 
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