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[WelperHelper99]

We didn’t conquer a damn thing. We went in, dropped bombs everywhere for a few weeks/months, spun our wheels for a little bit, and then were reminded for years on end of why the place is called the Graveyard of Empires since antiquity. You don’t know shit.

I was talking Iraq. Afghanistan is a completely different story.

Iraq was even more retarded. Osama Bin Laden was hiding in fucking Afghanistan and Al-Qaeda was based in that country, so at least the fucking impetus for war made sense despite it being handled VERY poorly. Saddam Hussein had jackshit to do with any of the 9/11 bombings. We just wanted to oust him because of the bullshit WMD charges and of course because of the oil in the region. We then fumbled and now Iraq is friends with the eternal enemy of the US and Israel, Iran. Maybe we should have let Saddam have his pig pen, as well as Qaddafi and Assad. They seem to know how to rule the region better than we do.

Unlike Afghanistan we still have holdings in the region. Clearly we did something right

 

[AnotherPleb]

Hey, even I'll admit AFGHANISTAN was fucking retarded. I'm arguing about IRAQ. The one with oil lol.

And does any of that oil benefit America now? I brought up the oil fields because of this: America can and absolutely will strike down anyone that tries to sell oil in anything outside dollars. If nukes from the enemy side weren't on the table I can guarantee you Washington would be pushing for war with Russia far more openly.

Iraq was even more retarded. Osama Bin Laden was hiding in fucking Afghanistan and Al-Qaeda was based in that country, so at least the fucking impetus for war made sense despite it being handled VERY poorly. Saddam Hussein had jackshit to do with any of the 9/11 bombings. We just wanted to oust him because of the bullshit WMD charges and of course because of the oil in the region. We then fumbled and now Iraq is friends with the eternal enemy of the US and Israel, Iran. Maybe we should have let Saddam have his pig pen, as well as Qaddafi and Assad. They seem to know how to rule the region better than we do.

We struck Iraq down because they wanted to sell in Euros. We struck down Gadaffi because he wanted to sell oil in gold. We want Assad gone because Israel wants to run an oil pipeline through Syria.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Unlike Afghanistan we still have holdings in the region. Clearly we did something right

No we don't. IIRC, the government is allied with Iran, Russia and Syria now. They hate us and I can't blame them. We ruined a half-functional society in order to literally destroy all competition in the oil market and now we're kinda rightfully seen as the bad guys.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

Iraq is basically ours as much as they bitch about it. Enforcement of civility can be done

For what fucking purpose? We can't even enforce civility in LA, Chicago, or NYC, why in the everloving fuck do I care about "civility" in Baghdad.
And >muh oil
NIGGER HAVE YOU SEEN FUCKING GAS PRICES
THE EVERLOVING FUCK IS MUH IRAQI OIL DOING

 

[AnotherPleb]

No we don't. IIRC, the government is allied with Iran, Russia and Syria now. They hate us and I can't blame them. We ruined a half-functional society in order to literally destroy all competition in the oil market and now we're kinda rightfully seen as the bad guys.

The petrodollar is the market. If you detach Oil from the Dollar you destroy America's economy in a way that even the elites can't hide from.

THE EVERLOVING FUCK IS MUH IRAQI OIL DOING

Killing Hussein was about sending a message.

 

[The Ugly One]

And now you are ruled by discount Palpatine.

The monkey paw is a bitch

In an alternate timeline, after 8 years of incompetent mismanagement by Al Gore, Donald Trump is elected President in 2008.

 

[Dick Mason]

Indeed. Just because Bush is the flavor of the week for the left because he hates Le Orange Man, people have a short memory. The left never changes its tactics.

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On the advice of James Baker, who was accused of uttering an expletive against Jews (a charge equivalent to suicide in American politics), Bush postponed the $10-billion loan guarantee to Israel for a few months, one reason being he wanted to help a friendlier Israeli government take power. The ploy worked, but it probably cost Bush half a million Jewish votes, even though he ended up signing the loan guarantee. This brief stab at freeing the presidency from the Zionist political stranglehold also lost Bush most of his dwindling media support and millions in campaign funds. For example, liquor magnate Edgar Bronfman, who gave the Republican Party $250,000 in 1991, switched sides and gave the Democrats $100,000 in the closing weeks of the campaign.

There was jewish operation targeting his father back in the 1992 elections. He wasn't being hawkish enough for jews, so they backed Clinton. They printed up a bunch of merch along those lines. It's sort of like shopping for them. They can make their thralls dance for them, but if they get too uppity, thinking that the role of president gives them some kind of real power (Nixon was the last who ever really pushed that hard, purportedly aiming to eliminate some jews from power in his 2nd term), they can just choose another with a greater level of venality.

a tangent, but fun:

https://archive.is/to86Z

Did James Baker Really Say ‘F*** the Jews’? New Book Clarifies U.S. Diplomat’s Infamous Quote​

Biography of the GOP elder statesman chronicles his battles with Israel, including the time he barred Netanyahu from entering the State Department

The tension between the two governments became a full-blown crisis a year later in 1990 when, as described in the book, “a deputy foreign minister named Benjamin Netanyahu openly assailed the United States for being too gullible in its dealings with the Palestinians.”

Netanyahu, then in his early 40s and a rising star in Likud, said in remarks to the media: “It is astonishing that a superpower like the United States, which was supposed to be the symbol of political fairness and international honesty, is building its policy on a foundation of distortion and lies.”

Netanyahu, ever the fount of honesty and fair play.

Baker was furious, and his immediate reaction was to tell close aides he’d be kicking the Israeli ambassador out of Washington. After calming down a bit, he “settled” for declaring Netanyahu persona non grata, “barring him from even entering the doors of the State Department.” Despite pleas from his Middle East adviser, Dennis Ross, Baker refused to change the decision.


Eventually, he softened it a bit, allowing Netanyahu to enter the building but barring him from visiting the top floors where high-ranking officials had their offices, limiting his access to low-level staffers only

Mammoth balls on that dude.

 

[Wimbydong]

In other news, the Democrat Suozzi has flipped NY-03 to replace George Santos:

NYT, Archive

 

[WelperHelper99]

And does any of that oil benefit America now? I brought up the oil fields because of this: America can and absolutely will strike down anyone that tries to sell oil in anything outside dollars. If nukes from the enemy side weren't on the table I can guarantee you Washington would be pushing for war with Russia far more openly.

We struck Iraq down because they wanted to sell in Euros. We struck down Gadaffi because he wanted to sell oil in gold. We want Assad gone because Israel wants to run an oil pipeline through Syria.

No we don't. IIRC, the government is allied with Iran, Russia and Syria now. They hate us and I can't blame them. We ruined a half-functional society in order to literally destroy all competition in the oil market and now we're kinda rightfully seen as the bad guys.

For what fucking purpose? We can't even enforce civility in LA, Chicago, or NYC, why in the everloving fuck do I care about "civility" in Baghdad.
And >muh oil
NIGGER HAVE YOU SEEN FUCKING GAS PRICES
THE EVERLOVING FUCK IS MUH IRAQI OIL DODOING

Are... are all of you millennials so mad because you voted for Obama and are trying to justify your vote by making Bush Hitler because the way you guys describe Iraq, it's worse than WW2, the Civil War, 1812, and the revolution COMBINED

 

[Celebrate Nite]

In other news, the Democrat Suozzi has flipped NY-03 to replace George Santos:
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>Distict 3: North Shore Long Island
greeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Are... are all of you millennials so mad because you voted for Obama and are trying to justify your vote by making Bush Hitler because the way you guys describe Iraq, it's worse than WW2, the Civil War, 1812, and the revolution COMBINED

No, but you zoomers think in the most black and white way I've ever seen. Bush was a very bad President as was Obama because they BOTH violated the Constitution incredulously and are war criminals. Nigger, you were two when all of this shit went down. Stop pretending like you know what you're talking about. Like I said, I was 7 when this all started and barely had a real inkling of all the stupig globohomo bullshit going on at the time.

 

[beet644]

In other news, the Democrat Suozzi has flipped NY-03 to replace George Santos:
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[The Ugly One]

In other news, the Democrat Suozzi has flipped NY-03 to replace George Santos:
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Another Republican self-own.

 

[WelperHelper99]

No, but you zoomers think in the most black and white way I've ever seen. Bush was a very bad President as was Obama because they BOTH violated the Constitution incredulously and are war criminals. Nigger, you were two when all of this shit went down. Stop pretending like you know what you're talking about. Like I said, I was 7 when this all started and barely had a real inkling of all the stupig globohomo bullshit going on at the time.

I'm gonna tell you something: dad was in the Gulf War. I know about Iraq. It's a mess. But we won it. Acting like Bush is worse than Obama is fucking ridiculous. And if I hear "war criminal" without seeing Japanese labor camps- gitmo don't count, get fucked- I'm going to break something

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I'm gonna tell you something: dad was in the Gulf War. I know about Iraq.

"My Dad Works At Nintendo!"

 

[WelperHelper99]

"My Dad Works At Nintendo!"

You are free to look through my post history- he did. I've said multiple times I'm from a military family and pissed this specific thread off.

 

[HackerX]

I'm gonna tell you something: dad was in the Gulf War. I know about Iraq. It's a mess. But we won it. Acting like Bush is worse than Obama is fucking ridiculous. And if I hear "war criminal" without seeing Japanese labor camps- gitmo don't count, get fucked- I'm going to break something

Nigger, we didn't win shit. You didn't win shit. I didn't win shit. The MIC were the only ones who won shit which makes it all trivial.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

Are... are all of you millennials...

I'm zoomier than you, you inbred mongoloid cocksucker.
The Iraq war was a mistake and you have made not a single fucking cogent argument in favor of it. You are praising the worst mistake the uniparty elements of the GOPe ever committed, and would cement the American right's cultural failure for over a decade afterwards, until Trump.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Answer, you don't, you build a fucking wall around it and a mine field that would put the Russians to shame. If they try to get in, blow the nukes, the only thing it's gonna wipe out is sand and camels

This is why any time a civilian talks about nuclear weapons I want to give myself a lobotomy with a fucking drill.

'm gonna tell you something: dad was in the Gulf War.

Which means precisely dick for you.

He was there, you weren't.

Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

 

[King Metalia]

Dark Brandon makes little sense. There's a reason people made God Emperor Trump memes basked in gold and light. It made him look good, godly. Dark Brandon memes do the complete opposite. Do I want to vote for a gold plated god emperor, or a slimy shriveled dark emperor?

The God Emperor memes I miss more than Trump's actual presidential term if I'm to be honest. The Dark Biden memes are the equal and opposite reaction to the God Emperor Trump memes. Pathetic unfunny and cringey as hell.