Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[SaidNoOneEver]

Putler kidnapped the 5 remaining ethnic Germans back in early 2022 and he has been making them continue their work on Funnybot, they're very close to completing the next iteration: Supreme Commander's Quantum AI

Wait a second, that's no moon!

 

[Susanna]

"Russian nukes in space" is as silly today as it was in the 70s. Space is a godawful place to put your nukes, when you could put them on submarines five minutes away from your enemy's coastal cities.

 

[Gondolindrim]

You've got it backwards. Ukraine is dying for your government, and soon you too will receive that honour.

Nah, that's the one thing we don't have to worry about. All these proxy wars are because the US Military is in a sorry state right now and recruitment is at an all time low. And anything like a draft or forced conscription will be the final straw that leads to an armed uprising. I don't want that last one, but I can't imagine people sending their kids to go fight to protect some asshole politcians business interests.

Joe Biden is unpopular sure, but even if it was Trump or some third guy I feel the sentiment would be the same.

 

[Metatron]

I don't quite believe the Macron assassination subplot.

What was to gain here for Ukraine? More attention from the West?

I know Z-Man is a coked up kike, but that seems too dumb to be true.

 

[Duke Nukem]

"Russian nukes in space" is as silly today as it was in the 70s. Space is a godawful place to put your nukes, when you could put them on submarines five minutes away from your enemy's coastal cities.

But it worked in Command and Conquer!

I don't quite believe the Macron assassination subplot.

What was to gain here for Ukraine? More attention from the West?

I know Z-Man is a coked up kike, but that seems too dumb to be true.

I agree, seems a little bit too on the nose to be pulled off properly.

 

[Napoleon III]

I agree, seems a little bit too on the nose to be pulled off properly.

That is a great pun, even if you didn't intend it. The idea would be to force the hand of the west. Even if Ukraine was found out by intel agencies from other countries it doesn't matter because they can't break the Ukraine brave defenders of freedom narrative. And so the west would have to take some sort of punitive action to save face. The hope is that the West would send a lot more military equipment or something similar.

As Ukraine's ability to achieve a military victory becomes downright fantasy it only makes sense for them to engage in terrorism to try and achieve their goals. This happened with the Chechens as well. And Ukraine is good at terrorism.

 

[make_it_so]

"Russian nukes in space" is as silly today as it was in the 70s. Space is a godawful place to put your nukes, when you could put them on submarines five minutes away from your enemy's coastal cities.

It's also something that both sides in the Cold War very quickly decided was a very big no-no, as doing so would constitute an escalation that neither side could respond to or defend against, and thus increase the likelihood of them attempting a pre-emptive strike.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

And Ukraine is good at terrorism.

Thankfully no. They only succeeded in blowing up a military blogger by sending a dumb broad with a bomb to his birthday party. Attempts to poison Russian pilots with a cake, blow up factories or railway tracks all failed spectacularly.

Chechens had a much higher success rate and body count.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

That is a great pun, even if you didn't intend it. The idea would be to force the hand of the west. Even if Ukraine was found out by intel agencies from other countries it doesn't matter because they can't break the Ukraine brave defenders of freedom narrative. And so the west would have to take some sort of punitive action to save face. The hope is that the West would send a lot more military equipment or something similar.

As Ukraine's ability to achieve a military victory becomes downright fantasy it only makes sense for them to engage in terrorism to try and achieve their goals. This happened with the Chechens as well. And Ukraine is good at terrorism.

Russia assassinating the President of a NATO nation would kick of WWIII. France has nukes too. I think the intrigue is that these came from pro-Zhaluzny Telegram channels not that it's necessarily true.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Is Russia building three modern ships in St Petersburg? This is a land war iirc.

Most of their modern ships stay in the Baltic or go to the Pacific.

Not sure if this is a meme post, but wanted to chime in since I find Russia's MIC interesting. Russia is building a lot more than three modern warships - USC has a half dozen Gorshkov's under construction in St. Petersburg, and the Amur shipyard (Russian Far East shipbuilder) was recently granted a license to build them as well. This is the future of Russia's "warship" backbone now that they've replaced the gas turbines originally supplied by Ukraine and the poorly built replacements from China. The Russian Navy also recently took delivery of a number of new Borei, Yasen and even the redesigned Lada class subs, so sub building hasn't really been effected by the war/sanctions. On the aviation front, the Russian AF is still receiving new builds, including Su-57 (more were delivered in December), and fulfilling export orders (initial Su-34 &Be-200 exports to Algeria occurred last year). Russia's ability to domesticate production has been one of their biggest gains from this war but is rarely discussed.

Yep, the Russian Navy has been inducting patrol boats, corvettes, and multi role frigates like clockwork, along with subs for years now.

Funniest shit:
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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-uk-will-continue-supporting-ukraine-as-long-as-russia-persists-with-its-imperial-conquest-uk-statement-to-the-osce

https://archive.ph/Ddi10

Right until Labor obliterates the Tories in the biggest electoral slapping in the last 50 YEARS of British politics.

It's not even up for debate, the British Conservatives are going to be destroyed.

That'll happen this year btw.

If Russia demonstrates they can basically shoot down satellites of the US it makes things really scary for the US and would likely cause the US to pause a lot of the shit they have been doing. Elon Musk would have to rethink using Starlink in Ukraine as well. Starlink satellites are a legitimate military target.

Russia has launched anti sat missiles in the past, same as China.

However they WRECK the orbit for your satellites too for years....

However, of its an EW kill then no big deal.


As for starlink, it's biggest plus is that it is an absolutely gigantic swarm that can take pretty big hits and keep working. Plus SpaceX can launch dozens of replacements at once.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

It's also something that both sides in the Cold War very quickly decided was a very big no-no, as doing so would constitute an escalation that neither side could respond to or defend against, and thus increase the likelihood of them attempting a pre-emptive strike.

The concern has been what would happen if the initial launch of the platform failed and the plutonium or whatever from the core rained back down on the earth. The US actually launched and detonated nukes in space 60 years ago under Operation Starfish Prime. P

As for destroying enemy satellites they could just use the X-37 to knock them out of orbit to fall back down to Earth instead of contaminating space with debris. I would believe Russia launched the equivalent of that kind of vehicle before launching a sci-fi nuke platform.

 

[make_it_so]

Thankfully no. They only succeeded in blowing up a military blogger by sending a dumb broad with a bomb to his birthday party. Attempts to poison Russian pilots with a cake, blow up factories or railway tracks all failed spectacularly.

Chechens had a much higher success rate and body count.

Of course the Chechens would be better. Followers of the Cult of Muhammad believe that they are divinely commanded to kill or conquer the infidels for the glory of their pedophile-warlord worshiping death cult, and that even if they perish in the process they will be rewarded in paradise. So in their minds, they have absolutely no reason to fear death or be repulsed by carrying out such brutal attacks.

The Ukrainians believe...what? That they're racially superior to the muscovite untermensch, and that they'll be rewarded with...accolades from and be remembered as heroes by a bunch of guys prancing about in black uniforms? Not quite the motivating factor. Not even the most hardcore of the OG Nazis were that committed, otherwise the whole "Werewolf" program wouldn't have been a complete wet fart.

 

[The giant penis of doom]

Old Westoid boomers and boomerdettes thank you for your service.

It's just the brazen automatic assertion that Putin is the enemy who needs to be hurt. Why can she assume it is obvious and everyone will go along?

It is better to die for the Emperor than to live for yourself!
Now we just need to figure out who the Emperor is..

they're very close to completing the next iteration: Supreme Commander's Quantum AI

The wireheads need to die immediately. Glory to the UEF! Uniting humanity under one banner.

 

[Slur Generator]

Id say that none is stupid enough to think that Putin would assassinate Macron but than again people think he blew up the pipeline so...

 

[make_it_so]

It's just the brazen automatic assertion that Putin is the enemy who needs to be hurt. Why can she assume it is obvious and everyone will go along?

Because these people have spent close to a decade telling themselves that the Bad Orange Man is Putin's puppet no matter the evidence. Really, that's it - otherwise you'll note that prior to 2016 the majority never gave a shit about Russia. They want to start World War III simply because "It Was Her Turn!"

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

Id say that none is stupid enough to think that Putin would assassinate Macron but than again people think he blew up the pipeline so...

The only saving grace in all the current happenings is that if humanity manages to live through of all of this, all theese politicians and their stupid propaganda takes will be laughing stock for post-kali yuga humans.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

Russia's ability to domesticate production has been one of their biggest gains from this war but is rarely discussed.

Russia never deindustrialized. Sure they took a hit after commieland croaked, but Putin kept Russian industry going throughout his rule.

From now on anytime there is a opportunity Russia is going to send weapons.

I would be happy if the Russians sent Spetnaz advisors and weaponry to help us liberate Canada. Fishing rights for Russian fishermen and transit rights for Russian warships could be negotiated afterwards.

definitely schizo talk or some planted false info. Macron and zelensky both have the same puppet masters.

That is what everyone said about Pringo. Except Mr. Strelkov. Unfortunately, no one listened to Strelkov.

And anything like a draft or forced conscription will be the final straw that leads to an armed uprising.

I can't wait for such an event.
Clean the board, with fire and steel.

Thankfully no.

Has everyone just forgotten the Crimean bridge that was blown up by a ukrop planned truck bomb?

 

[Meh123]

Space War!

Blowing up the MoonStream II - OPA gangnam style

I hope they have been fucking with US satellites. If Russia demonstrates they can basically shoot down satellites of the US it makes things really scary for the US and would likely cause the US to pause a lot of the shit they have been doing. Elon Musk would have to rethink using Starlink in Ukraine as well. Starlink satellites are a legitimate military target.

How is this new in any way? Russia already demonstrated shooting down a satellite in 2021.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/russia-just-blew-up-a-satellite-heres-why-that-spells-trouble-for-spaceflight

Just... no. Killing satellites with EW or lasers is a-ok, as someone pointed out above. Shrouding earth with kessler syndrome is beyond idiotic.

"Russian nukes in space" is as silly today as it was in the 70s. Space is a godawful place to put your nukes, when you could put them on submarines five minutes away from your enemy's coastal cities.

Actually I don't think so. ICBMs are most vulnerable right after launch, while ascending (obviously they're farthest away from your enemy too). SLBMs are launched from closer, therefore your target have less time to react, but clearer target while the missile is still in one, ascending on a relatively simple trajectory.

Once it reaches space and starts coasting, you're fucked for multiple reasons. For one, it's still not trivial to hit something fast moving and small on orbit with a missile. Second, the separated warheads are small, should have no bit radar sig., can maneuver and surrounded by decoys. At the last stage - reentry - well, try to shoot down something coming in at ~8km/s. If you have problems shooting down hypersonic missiles, this will take that problem to the next level.

Space launched missiles bypass (or rather: they done it beforhand) the most vulnerable stage of an ICBM.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Has everyone just forgotten the Crimean bridge that was blown up by a ukrop planned truck bomb?

The bridge is still there and the trains were running again 12 hours after the boom. Hardly a success?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Right until Labor obliterates the Tories in the biggest electoral slapping in the last 50 YEARS of British politics.

It's not even up for debate, the British Conservatives are going to be destroyed.

That'll happen this year btw.

The Tories pissed away a popular mandate for hoholneggers of all things.