Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Iron Jaguar]

Someday we’re going to have an antibiotic resistant super bacteria because of trannies and their completely unnecessary surgeries.

Troons and Pooners are already parasites and a judgement from God.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

she still hasn't figured out how to orgasm.

Clitoral burial:

Anyway, I've noticed there's quite a few TiFs who struggle with orgasms. I've seen tons of them on r/FTM hoping that Testosterone will fix that, and a few on r/phallo hoping phalloplasty will do the same.

You'd think the T would be an aphrodisiac so it must be a side effect of the surgeries.

TiF whose had many issues with her erectile device and parasites in her phallus, has had the erectile device erode out her phallus tip again.

again.

Do you think she'd get yet another device installed?

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I'm almost impressed this manages to look like an AI attempting, and utterly failing to generate a vagina picture. That kind of vibe is weird as shit.

the Uncanniest Valley

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Do you think she'd get yet another device installed?

Without question.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Researchers need tools to assess non-verbal regret. I'm wondering if the Implicit Association Test can be modified to serve this purpose.

To what end, though?

We already know these surgeries are unproven, unstandardized, and unjustifiable. We already know that they don't do what they are purported to do. I guess it could be useful to get a better estimate of the regret rate, but I don't think it's necessary. Modifying the test protocol and determining when and how to administer it would take time and money. The surgeons who perform these procedures won't even respond to urgent patient emails; they certainly are not about to invite patients to hang around the office ruminating on their regrets. Specialist physicians in the United States are already overwhelmed with bureaucratic nonsense with no clear reason behind it, no reason to expect anyone but the surgeon to care about regrets, either.

Medicine as a discipline is currently reckoning with a problem of overdiagnosis. Patients without any appreciable risk factors want all kinds of surveillance and "early detection" screening, when this just increases the risk of finding something that would have almost certainly gone away on its own. Once something is found and the patient knows it's there, he's understandably anxious to know what the treatment plan is, when treatment may not actually have been required at all. Too much testing leads to unnecessary medical intervention, which can have serious comorbidities.

In this case, I think it's fine to address the vocal regretters as a group and individually as they come forward to identify themselves, but I question the utility of actually seeking them out. Some of the "closeted" regretters will remain that way forever, quietly going about their lives without ever acknowledging their mistake to anyone else (as should be their right). What would be the point of offering them any kind of further treatment? Science has yet to discover the antidote to regret.

 

[Positron]

[Assessment of non-verbalized regrets] To what end, though?

1. For the science.
2. For the politics: a proven, documented high regret rate will encourage governments to ban this butchery altogether, or at least mandate aggressive pre-op psych screening.

Medicine as a discipline is currently reckoning with a problem of overdiagnosis. Patients without any appreciable risk factors want all kinds of surveillance and "early detection" screening, when this just increases the risk of finding something that would have almost certainly gone away on its own.

This is a separate issue. We don't know if non-verbalized (subclinical?) post-transition regret is psychological harmful, whether it will go away on its own without intervention, or it will affect the patient's daily living, and we don't know the answer because we don't even know the true prevalence of post-transition regret. After we know the true prevalence, we can then investigate further whether aggressively screening for and managing non-verbalized regret will improve patient outcomes, or we can afford to wait until they gets verbal.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Do you think she'd get yet another device installed?

Yes.

She'll continue till the phallus starts rotting from damage.
She's German so this is all probably paid for with taxes as well.

 

[Point and Laugh]

In this case, I think it's fine to address the vocal regretters as a group and individually as they come forward to identify themselves,

What’s even worse, is that the people who have “common problems” with these surgeries that absolutely horrify even the most cynical SRS thread lurker, still insist that it’s fine.

It’s totally normal to have blood clots, necrotic tissue, puss and god knows what else fall out of the hole drilled into your body. It’s nbd to have weird parasites living in your skin burrito that also have plastic devices being forced out by a desperate immune system response - multiple times!

These are the ones that proudly claim this is fine! There is absolutely no incentive to address the obvious problem of rampant medical abuse or acknowledge that there’s anything to “fix.” It’s “life saving” medical care!

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

This is a separate issue. We don't know if non-verbalized (subclinical?) post-transition regret is psychological harmful, whether it will go away on its own without intervention, or it will affect the patient's daily living, and we don't know the answer because we don't even know the true prevalence of post-transition regret. After we know the true prevalence, we can then investigate further whether aggressively screening for and managing non-verbalized regret will improve patient outcomes, or we can afford to wait until they gets verbal.

I get what you're saying, and it might be interesting to see concrete numbers, but nobody, not even the surgeons themselves, gives one single shit about patient outcome, whether that patient has regrets or not. They don't even pretend.

Why do we care about prevalence of regret? There's ample evidence for the harms done by these surgeries without going to the immense effort of tracking down people who wouldn't have ever come forward of their own volition.

As for how to find out whether the regret goes away on its own: "watchful waiting". About 41% of cases will end up being lifelong.

In all seriousness, I think transition regret is just one of those things that is either self-limiting and benign or completely refractory to available treatment and doubling in size overnight.

What’s even worse, is that the people who have “common problems” with these surgeries that absolutely horrify even the most cynical SRS thread lurker, still insist that it’s fine.

It’s totally normal to have blood clots, necrotic tissue, puss and god knows what else fall out of the hole drilled into your body. It’s nbd to have weird parasites living in your skin burrito that also have plastic devices being forced out by a desperate immune system response - multiple times!

These are the ones that proudly claim this is fine! There is absolutely no incentive to address the obvious problem of rampant medical abuse or acknowledge that there’s anything to “fix.” It’s “life saving” medical care!

Exactly. Some problems are simply unfixable. If you regret something deeply enough, it is your right to choose to stop living, but as long as you remain alive, there will be things you wish you had done differently. You either accept that or opt out.

(This sounds like a cry for help but I promise I'm OK u guise)

 

[batteredpancakes]

ok so this journal on r/phallo by u/Sunstarch caught my attention.
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Basically it's about her progress on sensation in her phallus over the past 2 years.

Spoiler: Full text

Erogenous Sensation Development Following RFF Phalloplasty​

Greetings everyone, I trust you are all keeping well. Regardless of where you find yourself on your personal journey, I hope to share insights drawn from my anecdotal experience regarding the development of erogenous sensation. Approaching the two-year mark since my initial phalloplasty procedure (involving phallus and UL creation), I've noticed my journey has unfolded somewhat differently from the narratives often shared on this subreddit. I wanted to offer a unique perspective on the progression of sensation from someone who took their time engaging with their new member.

Initially, I didn't experience tactile sensation in my penis until approximately three months post-op. I recall sporadic sensations of tingles and zaps, which I interpreted as positive signs that things were progressing. At that time, I struggled to fully embrace my new member as I longed for all stages of the process to be completed. Thus, I primarily focused on stimulating my natal genitals while awaiting stage two, which occurred around five months later.
Stage two involved a vaginectomy, scrotoplasty, glansplasty, and UL hookup. Once again, upon being cleared for sexual activity, I initially gravitated towards my buried natal genitalia for stimulation. However, I became more open to engaging sexually with my partner using my penis, though ultimately direct stimulation of my buried genitalia was required to achieve orgasm.

Around the eight-month mark, I began to notice the development of erogenous sensation, marking significant progress as I moved closer to the final stage, which included the placement of an erectile device (Titan inflatable pump) with a single cylinder and one testicular prosthesis. Moreover, tattooing proved immensely beneficial in fostering a stronger connection with my penis.

Upon receiving clearance to engage in sexual activity, I found much greater satisfaction incorporating my penis into my sex life. While this may not resonate with everyone, personally, I felt a greater sense of completeness by this stage, which provided the confidence and emotional connection I needed.
For the past two to three months, I have been consistently experiencing orgasms solely through the stimulation of my penis. The surprises of nerve hookup still catch me off guard at times, but overall, I am extremely pleased with the outcome.

It's crucial to recognize that this process indeed requires time and can be quite demanding. This encompasses not just the surgical procedures, wait times, paperwork, insurance, finances, and healing process, but also the significant emotional and mental aspects involved. My hope is that in this subreddit, we can communicate with clarity, realism, and ongoing support to those who are navigating similar experiences.

Thank you,
CL

These sections caught my attention:

Around the eight-month mark, I began to notice the development...

...proved immensely beneficial in fostering a stronger connection with my penis.

I felt a greater sense of completeness by this stage, which provided the confidence and emotional connection I needed.

I know we've talked about these TiFs treating their phallus's like a newborn baby in the early stages of surgery, but this one is nurturing hers through life stages. She's even keeping note of progress with months like a doting mother does with a young baby.
These girls are so fucking creepy to me.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

What’s even worse, is that the people who have “common problems” with these surgeries that absolutely horrify even the most cynical SRS thread lurker, still insist that it’s fine.

It’s totally normal to have blood clots, necrotic tissue, puss and god knows what else fall out of the hole drilled into your body. It’s nbd to have weird parasites living in your skin burrito that also have plastic devices being forced out by a desperate immune system response - multiple times!

These are the ones that proudly claim this is fine! There is absolutely no incentive to address the obvious problem of rampant medical abuse or acknowledge that there’s anything to “fix.” It’s “life saving” medical care!

0 non-mentally ill men would ever undergo any surgery where penile shrinkage/rotting, urethral problems and devices burrowing their way out of their penis was a "common" occurrence.

 

[Adjustable Autism]

I'd say it's highly suspicious that the regret rates are so low... It's almost like these people don't admit regret, maybe not even permitting themselves to feel regret for some reason...

There are a bunch of factors at play. The first is that people who regret their surgery usually keep their trap shut. The whole gender bunch acts like a cult and actually talking about regret paints a target on your back. Even when people are venting or detransitioning, they usually preface it by doing the whole "it is still perfectly valid, it just wasn't for me"-song and dance.

Another thing is just statistics. The sample sizes are small to begin with, especially if the different "methods" are viewed separately. You also have to rely on the surgeons to get anything and they are very interested in keeping everything the way it is. They are known to ghost their own patients, ffs.
And most studies end just after surgery is done. There is no one/five/whatever year follow up. And even, if there is, the drop out rates are insane. I've seen numbers as high as 60% after three months. After three months, some are still on pain meds! And participant retention is still that low! And it is barely mentioned at all. So the data completely useless, but because it is about le magical gender healthcare, it is still treated as gospel. And the trannies are lapping it up, of course.

Researchers need tools to assess non-verbal regret. I'm wondering if the Implicit Association Test can be modified to serve this purpose.

It would be possible to do a shitload of stuff. Even some (modified) depression scales could give at least some information. The distractors woud have to be quite strong though, since guessing the "correct" answers for the desired result has become extremely common.

There are a metric crapton of problems though. Most tests need a before and after comparison. And since even the most basic pre hormone/pre surgery assessment is met with "Reeeeeee, gatekeeping! Transphobia! GENOCIDE!" I don't see how anything above five smileys could make it past the aggressive and weirdly powerful pro troon lobbyists. Maybe in a few years....

We would also need proper psychologists and psyciatrists, not the ultrawoke gender-ally bobbleheads the universities keep shitting out at the moment.

And even if we get most trannies will default to blame anything other than a perfect result on experiencing transphobia after surgery.

To what end, though?

I think there could be benefits. I am a scientist first and foremost and just getting some semi-reliable numbers would be a plus from the shitshow we have right now.

You are absolutely correct, we know how harmful and untested these human centipede-esque butcher jobs are and the butchers don't care as long as the money flows (incuding surgery on morbidly obese patients). Thing is...how many people outside of the farms know? A lot of people (including people with legislative power) just hear how low the regret rate is. A common argument is the "less than 1% regret rate, less regret than knee surgery, so life saving,..." How many parents get fooled by this and just nod and sign the paper, because regret seems so utterly improbable and they just want their kid to be happy? Having real data to call this blatant lie out could help, at least for surgery on minors (I don't care about the adults, unless I live in the same country and have to fund post op health problems with my taxes).

Tl;dr: It isn't for the patients, but rather for the scientific community and for more honest public discourse and maybe, just maybe for better legislation or at least minimal oversight over what those Jason Voorhees wannabes are doing ( I know)

Imagine pulling back the strip of wax with some troon's "clitoral hood" still attached to it.

In World War I we had trench foot, now we have crotch rot. Progress.

 

[Constellationzero]

Medicine as a discipline is currently reckoning with a problem of overdiagnosis.

Yeah, overdiagnosis of dysphoria, autism, and ADHD. FAKERmyalgia too. The demand is to pathologize EVERYTHING in the hopes of discovering the coveted CONDITIONThat gets them out of responsibility and accountability.

he's understandably anxious to know what the treatment plan is, when treatment may not actually have been required at all.

Because they COVET treatment. Treatment means they have a condition. And they COVET conditions. Conditions =

* Free shit
* Attention
* Ass Patz
* Internet Pointz
* Get out of work/keeping a job
* The same, but for housework and other obligations
* Allows them to be a complete and utter ass to everyone while demanding deferential treatment for themselves--ALWAYS.

 

[TismFarmer]

surgeries.
Do you think she'd get yet another device installed?

In the replies she says she definitely is, in a few months when it's healed.
She is SO fucken casual about something eroding out of the tip of her 'dick' and is quite happy with the idea of it happening over and over as long as she keeps using it to have sex.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

2. For the politics: a proven, documented high regret rate will encourage governments to ban this butchery altogether, or at least mandate aggressive pre-op psych screening

Sure...if government was run by logic and reason. Which it is not.

have plastic devices being forced out by a desperate immune system response

That's not what caused this. Her implant has eroded through the flesh and skin due to friction.

 

[Otterly]

The rotdog will likely shrink a lot once the rod is out. There will be scarring and contraction. They may not be able to even try to put another one in.

Everything so badly proportioned that the day 38 pic is a struggle to understand.

I don’t get how they can think that ‘triple bulge’ look is ‘cis.’ Real labia don’t look like that. They meet in the middle at the top, hence all the jokes about camel toes. Having two widely spaced airbag bumpers with a gap in the middle and a stapled down cock looks nothing like a fanny. I know most of the victims have seen minimal vulvas but youd think the surgeons might have seen a few.

I know it’s swelling but will I start looking more like a vagina and not a tucked penis ?

Never? Because it’s not swelling it’s a severed penis stump sewn down.
It’s just popped into my head a thought about how protective most men are of their bits. If blokes see someone get kicked in the nuts they physically wince. Yet this subset offer them up to the chopping block. The Mighty Coom is a powerful force to override such basic instincts

 

[Aunt Carol]

Nuigi, the TiF whose had many issues with her erectile device and parasites in her phallus, has had the erectile device erode out her phallus tip again.
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Spoiler: oh noes

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Surgery is tomorrow to take it out.

Dood is so manly she doesn't know that this is exactly why you're supposed to handwash and air dry.

 

[Fapcop]

A very masc FTM has written a minor essay about the fact that her “top surgery” looks like a “top surgery”.





TRIGGERWARNING: Fembrained posting, Karen-ing, handwringing about feelings, hysteria.

 

[and I must scream]

A very masc FTM has written a minor essay about the fact that her “top surgery” looks like a “top surgery”.

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TRIGGERWARNING: Fembrained posting, Karen-ing, handwringing about feelings, hysteria.

"I had top surgery, which is double mastectomy. What I got is double mastectomy. I'm unsatisfied because I got double mastectomy and not man's chest. Thousands of images and videos show that top surgery is double mastectomy and doesn't magically turn your boobs into a men's chest, but I chose to ignore that. I do not regret the top surgery which is double mastectomy but I regret getting double mastectomy, also known as top surgery."

Seriously, what does she want? Top surgery IS double mastectomy, that's what it is. How can you not know it? Maybe that's a good case about why we should call things as they are, instead of using euphemisms and laundered words. It allows this kind of magical thinking.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

A very masc FTM has written a minor essay about the fact that her “top surgery” looks like a “top surgery”.

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TRIGGERWARNING: Fembrained posting, Karen-ing, handwringing about feelings, hysteria.

What's extra wild is that this is from a subreddit intended for people over 50. It's on thing for a 14 year old pooner to be a fucking retard who lets herself be conned by the cult but goddamnit you're closing in on senior citizen status and still you conned yourself into thinking you were going to get, what, peak Arnold Schwarzenegger with teeny tiny gynocomastia buds?