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https://www.cheknews.ca/pit-bull-attack-near-nanaimo-injures-two-children-and-one-woman-450395/

Two 8-month-old pit bulls that were loose in Nanaimo attacked several children, severely injuring at least one. Other people that came to aid the children were also injured.

The children were playing in a yard at the house of one of their friends. The dogs were from somewhere else in the neighborhood and had been cited for being at large previously.

One of the owners of the dogs came and got the dogs but did not stick around. The news interviewed the other owner, a Dangerhair that looked to be in her late 40s or early 50s. While she was devastated at what her dogs had done, she said to the reporter, "People are saying, look at this from the prospective of a parent, well, these dogs are my kids, too," and then she broke down crying.

It was later reported both dogs were euthanized, as there have been other incidents prior to this one, and due to the severity of the injuries the one particular child sustained.

To the dangerhair dog owner I would have to say, "If these dogs were your KIDS, you did a lousy job of raising them. Thank heavens you didn't spawn any of your own."
 
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Nobody is denying that those dang dirty evil toy breeds can be aggressive, but those breeds don't kill people and are easily subdued if they actually attack.

My mom had a toy mix that was a "scared biter" (shelter foster didn't disclose this, imagine that!). Dog was apparently "scared" at all times of course. She jumped up on me while I was eating and bit my wrist to get me to drop my biscuit. I dropped the biscuit but she didnt get it because I flung her off me. She landed on her back and ran away whimpering. Not my proudest moment but it triggered my fight instincts. Broke skin, just not enough to seek medical attention. I didn't even need a bandaid.

A shitbull would not have let go and if it usually takes multiple grown men and a hail of bullets to subdue a shittie, then I would've had no chance of flinging it like a frisbee. I tried to find that "I can punt a chihuahua but not a pitbull" meme but search terms only yielded a bunch of "chi bad, pittie good" memes. "Dog racism" and "speciesism" is OK if it's against toy breeds after all!
 
@Android raptor I'm interested (genuinely) to know if you believe pitbulls were originally "nanny dogs" or if you believe they were originally fighting dogs who have been bred down to pets. These are two very different positions to argue from.
 
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@Android raptor I'm interested (genuinely) to know if you believe pitbulls were originally "nanny dogs" or if you believe they were originally fighting dogs who have been bred down to pets. These are two very different positions to argue from.
Nah, but I believe they aren't that different that other large dogs (especially large breeds originally used for bloodsports, which is a lot of them).
 
Nah, but I believe they aren't that different that other large dogs (especially large breeds originally used for bloodsports, which is a lot of them).
Okay, that's something I can agree with. Large dogs, especially those bred for fighting, present a greater danger than other breeds. Would you be on board with the suggestion that large, dangerous breeds of dogs should be registered or in some other way controlled with regards to who is allowed to own them? Not to be an ass, but the people who own Rottweilers and Dobermans seem to at least recognize that their dogs have the potential to be dangerous and act appropriately. Pibble owners seem to be dead-set on ignoring their breed traits. I've met friendly pibbles and don't believe literally all of them are dog psychos, but the stats are pretty clear that there is higher risk with these dogs.
 
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Okay, that's something I can agree with. Large dogs, especially those bred for fighting, present a greater danger than other breeds. Would you be on board with the suggestion that large, dangerous breeds of dogs should be registered or in some other way controlled with regards to who is allowed to own them? Not to be an ass, but the people who own Rottweilers and Dobermans seem to at least recognize that their dogs have the potential to be dangerous and act appropriately. Pibble owners seem to be dead-set on ignoring their breed traits. I've met friendly pibbles and don't believe literally all of them are dog psychos, but the stats are pretty clear that there is higher risk with these dogs.
No because none of those breeds are supposed to be human aggressive and human aggression is caused by poor breeding and lack of proper training and socialization. It's basically punishing responsible owners and breeders for the actions of white trash who keep their dogs chained in shitty backyards and refuse to get them fixed despite generations of inbreeding.

You know what kills way more people than any dog? Horses.
 
No because none of those breeds are supposed to be human aggressive and human aggression is caused by poor breeding and lack of proper training and socialization. It's basically punishing responsible owners and breeders for the actions of white trash who keep their dogs chained in shitty backyards and refuse to get them fixed despite generations of inbreeding.

You know what kills way more people than any dog? Horses.
Do you have stats for that? According to a lazy googling, mosquitos, snakes, and dogs are the leading cause of animal-related deaths in humans.

And in any case, horse crazies aren't arguing that they should be allowed to have their murderous horses free roaming.

ETA: I don't see how registration punishes good owners.
 
It's basically punishing responsible owners and breeders for the actions of white trash who keep their dogs chained in shitty backyards and refuse to get them fixed despite generations of inbreeding.
Nice attempt to compare pitbulls to guns, the issue is guns don't ever just go off by themselves, whereas pitbulls do. And you never know if they will until its too late and you can't unmaul the neighbors kid
 
Do you have stats for that? According to a lazy googling, mosquitos, snakes, and dogs are the leading cause of animal-related deaths in humans.

And in any case, horse crazies aren't arguing that they should be allowed to have their murderous horses free roaming.

ETA: I don't see how registration punishes good owners.
Dogs arent allowed to be free roaming in the US either, at least not in populated areas. Some people do it anyway (like my old feral free-range chihuahua neighbors) but dogs technically aren't supposed to be roaming free.

Dogs kill about 30 people on average every year in the US. Outside the US there are a lot more dog fatalities (along with snake and mosquito fatalities) due to a combination of lack of access to medical treatment and a much bigger problem with feral dogs and diseases they carry (especially in counties like India, where the Indian vulture crisis has caused the feral dog population to explode along with related issues like human rabies causes).

The feral dogs killing people worldwide aren't bullies either, they're mutts and pariah dogs.

Here is a graph of fatalities in the US specifically over a 10 year period.
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As a side snake fatalities are extremely rare in the US unlike worldwide, because there are fewer species of venomous snakes and more importantly, much easier access to emergency treatment (most snakebite fatalities happen in rural areas in developing countries where people have no hospital nearby and no way of getting to one).
Nice attempt to compare pitbulls to guns, the issue is guns don't ever just go off by themselves, whereas pitbulls do. And you never know if they will until its too late and you can't unmaul the neighbors kid
The neighbors kid shouldn't have been fucking with strange dogs and if it was too young to understand that, its too young to be outside unsupervised.

Besides that kids are way more likely to be killed by their parents anyway. Guess we gotta register and ban all parents.
 
Besides that kids are way more likely to be killed by their parents anyway. Guess we gotta register and ban all parents.
I think the point of bans is to reduce harm where possible. In the statistic you posted, deer are responsible for the most deaths because deer are retarded and love standing in front of approaching vehicles. You can't exactly ban wild animals without declaring a deer pogrom. You can't ban shitty people from having kids. You can, however, ban human-made things which serve a purpose but do it poorly compared to others. We ban more-dangerous-than-average cars. We ban more-dangerous-than-average carseats. We ban plenty of things which present a larger-than-average risk. Why not ban more-dangerous-than-average dogs?

For the record, I'm not in favor of BSL because the owners of dangerous breeds will just rename them and you make it advantageous for dishonest people to play breed shell games (see also: all the animal shelters calling pit mixes "labs"). I am in favor of punishing the hell out of people who allow their dogs to harm others. If someone has a vicious chihuahua that mauls a toddler, OK, put that dog down and punish the owner. But tell me how often a chihuahua has killed someone vs a bully breed. They can be evil little shits, for sure, but not exactly deadly.
 
Remember folks, #pitbulldropoff might of started as a meme, but it doesn't have to stay that way.

No one will know if you adopt a box of shitbull puppies and bury them out in the sticks.
No matter how bad shit bulls are (I've dealt with these puppies before, they are vicious out of the womb), this is a pretty sick and dark thing to say. If you engage or advocate this kind of behavior it will turn you into the monster you are trying to eradicate. This is not the way.
 
No matter how bad shit bulls are (I've dealt with these puppies before, they are vicious out of the womb), this is a pretty sick and dark thing to say. If you engage or advocate this kind of behavior it will turn you into the monster you are trying to eradicate. This is not the way.
This is why you do it as quick and painless as possible, or at least you spay and neuter every pit pup you get. The one woman who left the pitbull to be hotboxed in her car was an idiot, for instance. Burying puppies alive is not the way to do it.
 
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