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[X-avier cuck]

Does anyone know who Namiji Freesia's roommate is?

I could have sworn I've heard her somewhere before but can't put my hand on it

 

[Undercover Commissioner]

The Guy who compiled the Godrrat aka the grand unifying rrat or the rrat king has taken down his rentry page and replaced it with the following statement

Spoiler: text

im sorry
I'm really sorry guys, i'm shutting it down. it's all gone too far, broken containment to drama streamers, and the schizos with throbbing hateboners for certain people have started treating it as gospel and dogma when it was only ever speculation.
i started pushing this rrat because i genuinely thought it made sense, humanized the people involved and gave them understandable motivations beyond being evil for the sake of evil, and i made the rentry to keep the narrative like that instead of spreading as a schizo bastardized version where certain livers are Machiavellian sociopaths. it didn't work out that way and only signal boosted the hate further. it is a piece of speculative fiction, intentionally written to sound convincing. i guess it worked too well. if real evidence comes out that conclusively proves this stuff, I might bring it back.
i know some of you probably have backups and screenshots and I can't do anything about that, but i no longer want any part of it and hopefully at least the new version will stay /here/. it stopped being fun or productive a long time ago and started being a witch hunt. the idea of 30,000 people reading this and even 1% of them being schizo enough to take it so seriously they start harassing other people who may be innocent for all we know makes me feel sick and the thought of anything bad happening to anyone scares me. doki said she doesn't want anyone to be hurt and just wants to move on and this wasn't helping anyone anymore. im sorry to everyone this hurt and im sorry to elira
i know it will fall on deaf ears but i ask that people stop sharing it in whatever form it may take from now on
please spread love and positivity to those vtubers you love, instead of seething about people you hate, just unsub and ignore everyone else.
no this wasn't edited by sisters or hijacked
i am the original author and i deleted it myself, enough with the conspiracy theories please its time to move on. check the private version (rentry.org/thegodrratprivate) that was created at the same time as this one with the key held only by the author, its also gone https://warosu.org/vt/thread/69142853#p69143109

Luckily most of it has been saved here, but not everything!!!
This is the latest archive of it
https://archive.is/PrjsZ.
This is the clip of finana confirming that noor from Niji id where involved in hiring ( management)
If someone has the time please archive and upload that clip!

Spoiler: Elira landing in japan on the 5th of february

https://web.archive.org/web/20240207183214/https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1754363748926796123

Spoiler: Selen being given 1 day of prep for a voicepack and getting sidelined.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240216095838/https://i.imgur.com/keR7P93.jpeg

Spoiler: ex nijimanagers joining an nft startup

https://web.archive.org/web/20240216095328/https://i.imgur.com/ThWTom0.png

... some of the links in the timeline section are dead.

Some things of interest that might be worth looking into :
- a clip of matarakan formerly nina mentioning how she had to fight with other talents for resources and her gushing over having a competent manager.
-confirmation that management (?) prevented yugo from working with her indie band "starbox" on any projects.

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As requested:

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Not calling you out, but everybody should learn how to do stuff like this if they don't already know. It makes the farms better as a source of info if people can properly archive stuff as they find it, rather than needing to ask that someone else do it. I recorded the clip in OBS, trimmed it and exported it with VideoPad, then packaged it for upload in HandBrake. That last step is important because it turned a 93MB source recording into a 7MB end product.[...]

Thank you! I usually use yt-dl but it wasn't working properly (+ I got lazy).

 

[trashbag1]

Dokibird could have ADHD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, have aids, rabies, she could be frothing in the mouth and shitting all over the desk, it wouldn't matter. She could be lying about all this with Niji vindicated and it still wouldn't matter. This whole thing happened because Niji's PR strategy is beyond eldritch and there's no going back

This still stands, imo

 

[X-avier cuck]

https://rentry.org/nijidoki

A nijisister has made a anti Doki document

 

[trashbag1]

https://rentry.org/nijidoki

A nijisister has made a anti Doki document

They want evidence about the harassment, i'm assuming the documents stating Doki's experience. They're basically asking for the livers to be doxxed. And i don't think that's legal?

E: Who would've thunk there would be corpo dickriders in the West.

 

[DumDum Did Nothing Wrong]

Uh oh, Lawtuber Legal Mindset is on the case and will cover Nijisanji's legal nightmare sometime tonight. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Cuckieta and recommend a fat warhammer larping faggot to Doki.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

Uh oh, Lawtuber Legal Mindset is on the case and will cover Nijisanji's legal nightmare sometime tonight. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Cuckieta and recommend a fat warhammer larping faggot to Doki.

These fucking Lawtubers need to go suckstart a Shotgun. Guaranteed they will be sending Doki to Rye Bread who can totally win the case by missing every deadline!

 

[X-avier cuck]

They want evidence about the harassment, i'm assuming the documents stating Doki's experience. They're basically asking for the livers to be doxxed. And i don't think that's legal?

E: Who would've thunk there would be corpo dickriders in the West.

What's crazy is that TLDR version is
" That Bitch is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy" which might not be the narrative you wanna run with

 

[Bob's Fuckass Head]

If someone has the time please archive and upload that clip!

As requested:

Not calling you out, but everybody should learn how to do stuff like this if they don't already know. It makes the farms better as a source of info if people can properly archive stuff as they find it, rather than needing to ask that someone else do it. I recorded the clip in OBS, trimmed it and exported it with VideoPad, then packaged it for upload in HandBrake. That last step is important because it turned a 93MB source recording into a 7MB end product.

These are all free programs. I mostly figured it out just by fucking around until I felt like I knew what I was doing, but there are probably dedicated "how do I x" archival procedure threads on the site if you search for them.

 

[Male Idiot]

I mean it all makes sense. Selen getting accused of difficult to work with, and giving the collab video the "reupload" comment all makes sense.

BPDs are like a nightmare combo of a yandere, a skizo and a drama queen anarchist made out of pure nitroglicerine. Most BPDs do suicide out of spite if you don't put enough salt on their salad.

Doki had legitimate reasons to be angry. And for a BPD she did the best she could, just verbally countermanding HQ is very tame for a BPD tantrum. Plus Doki could not know if getting fired would work or not. She could have just gotten broke, yet she had no choice since she was making no profits either. So her failing to make Sudoku is as much a surprise as CWC falling for a fake e-girl. She couldn't have known in advance it would work out this good for her. So I'm totally down to believe she tried to an hero twice.

Now for Elira. She is a Filippino, so she likes nepotism. Nijisanji is cheap as fuck, presses her to be a translator, and she naturally looks out for her friends. Now you need to understand, Japs don't do well with individualism. Doki's little stunt with the "reupload the video" wouldn't even fly in eastern europe, much less Japan. I can imagine Elira getting a LOAD of shit for Doki's antics and her getting fed up. She is a liver, not a manager or a tard wrangler. She may have been ok with getting manager stuff, but she had no training in it, and she absolutely wouldn't have wanted to wrangle Doki. So she was likely sassy and bitchy about it like a Karen, and likely sent the collabs her friends way. This girl makes more fans than her, and makes her trouble with Niji JP management.

Niji? Niji is greedy and lazy, and just let Elira bungle her way through something she is not prepared for. They put Poojeets in charge, and considered it a job well done. Poojeets. They also thought India was a great vtuber opportunity. Yes, the place where pajeets can't even afford toilet papers, surely they got money for superchats and merch just for a side of 2D bobs and vagene....

The Great Horned RRat could be mostly true, yet not as malevolent as it is made out to be. Selen/Doki could just have had a bad mental health and totally not fit to work in a JP company. Elira can be just a nepotist filippina who had to deal with shit she didn't want to, and Niji being total idiots who don't care. There are multiple things that wouldn't fly with a competent org, like her not getting paid or her speaking out against management. An overall bad combo that went hilariously bad. Storing the nitro, the matches, and an incompetent worker in a warehouse made of dry wood.

The mess is the same, without Elira or Niji being a big gamburgate Bond villains who want to manipulate Doki into killing herself, just being corrupt and incompetent retards. Still, the blame is on Niji for being idiots and mismanaging to a criminal extent. It was their responsibility to hire people fit for the job, find managers that can work with them, and provide them with resources to work with.

 

[ZMOT]

I'm mostly referring to Vei and Nyanners leaving in a huff after not getting their way. Silver, more or less, left on her own terms. The harassment she received for playing Wizard Game and receiving nothing in the way of support from upper management (as they had their own opinions on the author of a fantasy series who believes in biological reality) likely had a hand in that particular decision. Both Vei and Nyanners showed signs of nepotistic behavior from the very beginning. I think Kson coming into VShojo was a bit of a moment for VShojo. Things seem to be running a lot smoother there now because Vei and Nyanners are gone.

I assume vshojo jp is pretty much it's own thing, especially so that EN can't fuck with it too much.

bobs and vagene

it's vegana. seriously. I got it wrong too.
it's so much worse which makes it especially important to remember that detail for how absolutely stupid it is

The mess is the same, without Elira or Niji being a big gamburgate Bond villains who want to manipulate Doki into killing herself, just being corrupt and incompetent retards.

this. reality is almost always that mundane and blant. just people being retarded where the circumstances contributed to a shitshow.

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

Now for Elira. She is a Filippino, so she likes nepotism. Nijisanji is cheap as fuck, presses her to be a translator,

Isnt Elira 100% white

 

[Male Idiot]

Isnt Elira 100% white

I read not, but it could be just a fake out random comments. She can be 100% whitest german ever and still be malding that Doki is doing better than her, ignoring rules, and she has to somehow hog money to herself and make Doki comply or the Niji managers will blame her for not wrangling her. I usually just assume most vtubers are hapas, but that is just my own autism.

I want to reiterate that if Elira was the manager, she was unofficially so. My post sounds bad for Doki/Elira, but both would be in trouble because Niji fucked up. Elira was never meant to be a manager, never had the qualifications, I can totally buy that she was not trying to harass Selen like a stalker, just got fed up with her. Put yourself in Elira's shoes, you have to do a job no one asked or payed you for, and you skim the profits a bit. But now you have to deal with this girl who is more popular and keeps landing you in shit. It wasn't even supposed to be your job!

Now put yourself in Doki's shoes. You aren't getting any help, and propably never had it explained to you how this all works. Your co-worker is your boss and she is neglecting you, and you are doing a job you imagined would be lucrative since you actually made it big, and you get ZERO profits. You are also wrangling with being a mental case, and you can't complain to anyone since you don't speak animu tongue. Your dream job is now a nightmare.

Now you are Yact man. You laugh into your brandy on your yact, you (or your underlings) got the EN tubers pulling double duty for free, like the good little drones they are. Except now everything is wrong and you got no idea why. You make an apology in a language you can barely speak, and you are confused and angry with shamefur dispray. EN girl has to fix this right NOW NOW NOW!

Now I don't know whose fucktarded idea was not to have proper managers for the EN branch, maybe it wasn't Yact man but one of his underlings. But that dude sure as hell fucked up.

Edit: I do know for a fact that big corpos LOVE giving their low level employees even more tasks, just to make them busy and save hiring a professional. Its a shitty ass practice that usually has shit results. I know we are at 99.9% capacity, intern kun, but you got to come up with making it even better! Good luck! I have seen this shit myself. Perhaps Elira volunteered out of ambition, genuine goodwill, or just hoping for corruption. Which all could have been solved by hiring a professional and allocating each v-tuber their own budget, which was Niji's responsibility. Not Selen's, not Elira's.

So before we throw Elira to the wolves for doing a bad job, it was never meant to be her job. Before we throw Selen/Doki into the asylum, she was the victim of bad circumstances/mismanagement. This is the right hand and left hand doing whatever they want to, with the head asleep. And Niji isn't a small mom and pop shop that can't afford to hire a few managers and give them Japanese/English lessons.

 

[GiveMeTheMoney]

With what happened with Vic, nobody should ever take any advice or suggestions by lawtubers fucking ever again. Drunkeita destroyed that premise and it should stay buried.

 

[marvlouslie]

From what I remember, Daph gained an audience by creating art for popular streamers. The most famous being Tyler1. She is a fairly talented artist and has done streams with vtubers before. Magni was the biggest one that I can think of, I haven't kept up with Daph because she says retarded shit that I'll briefly go into. She is friends with that commie faggot who lives in a California mansion, Hasan and comes to his defense whenever he makes an ass out of himself. Daph has also said dumb shit and has a huge issue with white people. There's chatlogs of her defending the use of cracker and snow roach.

Daph is a very hypocritical person considering she got her start being an edgy streamer, well as edgy as you can be on twitch. In fact, that was what made her appealing to me back in 2020. But the past couple years or so, she's changed in order to cater to the progressive brainrot crowd so many do once they gain a big following and start making money through sponsorships. Many such cases.

> Daph is a friend of Hasan and regularly comes to that Commie Faggot's defense.

Opinion from Daph instantly thrown in the bin.

 

[X-avier cuck]

As somebody who wasn't even a part of the tribalistic wars between Holo and Niji, I don't really see how anybody could look at the current events surrounding the latter and not see them in a negative light compared to a lot of their contemporaries.

They terminated a very popular talent in the worst way possible getting several different excuses across the span of a couple of days that did nothing but contradict the last post.

They then make a investor notice that the girl they lost was insignificant.

After all of this they have three of their biggest cash cows trying to make a follow-up video which not only incriminates them the plates a Target directly on their head.

( While revealing illegally looked at documents)

Then Riku makes a PR video that would have been nice to release at the start of all of this but now further contradicts what EN stated.

Idk how anyone could buy their side

 

[verissimus]

Idk how anyone could buy their side

Because we live in bizarro world that's why. Consistency and logic left town awhile ago.

On another note, I might take back what I said about the recording thing. It's actually very well possible Vox knew Selen did record him for some kind of test thing but chose to misinform the public by claiming the recording was done without his consent. That's actually more believable than Selen telling her lawyer(s) she did that and they decided to let Nijisanji know she did. It wouldn't surprise me that this may have been one of the reason's why he even volunteered to make a statement against Selen. Elira acted accordingly too by suggesting Selen's records somehow contained her, Enna, and Millie's personal information, and because of that she was afraid of gettind doxxed.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Just like I refused to believe that Doki had attempted suicide,

So you believe she's a liar then? The only way you can reasonably refuse to believe Doki attempted suicide is if you a prepared to think the literal worst about her, that she's a shitty person who'd lie about committing suicide just for sympathy. But then, you'd have to discount the fact that she was provably in the hospital, and everybody on both sides admitted that, and nobody involved disputes the fact that there was a suicide attempt. If she was in fact lying about the suicide, don't you think Niji or the other livers would have led with that and revealed it? It would have completely undermined Selen's victimhood narrative from the start. They clearly had access to medical records, which Selen herself admitted, and the other livers claimed they reached out to Selen after she was in the hospital. Doubt they knew nothing. Yet nobody on the Niji side is disputing the claim of a suicide attempt.

I see this being said a couple times here - what's the evidence?

The fact that Selen/Doki has outright admitted she's got BPD in the past? Once again, unless you really want to think she's a filthy lying liar who liar, there's no reason not to take her words at face value when she claims this.

The whole situation reads perfectly sensibly if you assume that someone in management is incompetent and had it out for Doki for some reason, like she didn't put out, or bruised their ego by doing so many projects and making other livers look bad.

I mean, that's no less speculative than the Great Rrat is. Either way, its all speculation, and neither explanation is any less likely than the other.

 

[Male Idiot]

As somebody who wasn't even a part of the tribalistic wars between Holo and Niji, I don't really see how anybody could look at the current events surrounding the latter and not see them in a negative light compared to a lot of their contemporaries.

They terminated a very popular talent in the worst way possible getting several different excuses across the span of a couple of days that did nothing but contradict the last post.

They then make a investor notice that the girl they lost was insignificant.

After all of this they have three of their biggest cash cows trying to make a follow-up video which not only incriminates them the plates a Target directly on their head.

( While revealing illegally looked at documents)

Then Riku makes a PR video that would have been nice to release at the start of all of this but now further contradicts what EN stated.

Idk how anyone could buy their side

Definately. Nijisanji taking L-s is an old meme. Hololive also has a not so good rep, though not as bad as Niji.

VShojo and Phase Connect sounds better, from a talent perspective. I get the feeling that the 2 big japanese ones are just older and more common, but actually offer a less optimal working environment. Any big names I missed? I hear something like Mythic but no idea what they do.

 

[Exterminatus]

In her earlier streams, I remember Pippa portrayed her relationship with her mom as being very poor and not getting along with her at all, but seems to have recently repaired her relationship with her mom. Pippa always seemed fond of her dad, though. She also has two sisters, one which she refers to as schizokin due to her seemingly having a legit mental illness, and the other being breederkin (or something similar) due to having a couple of kids with different fathers. She does not seem to get along well with her sisters, for the most part.

Isn't the schizo sister the one that spits used mouth wash back into the bottle cause she doesn't want to waste it?

As somebody who wasn't even a part of the tribalistic wars between Holo and Niji, I don't really see how anybody could look at the current events surrounding the latter and not see them in a negative light compared to a lot of their contemporaries.

They terminated a very popular talent in the worst way possible getting several different excuses across the span of a couple of days that did nothing but contradict the last post.

They then make a investor notice that the girl they lost was insignificant.

After all of this they have three of their biggest cash cows trying to make a follow-up video which not only incriminates them the plates a Target directly on their head.

( While revealing illegally looked at documents)

Then Riku makes a PR video that would have been nice to release at the start of all of this but now further contradicts what EN stated.

Idk how anyone could buy their side

If the same thing happened with Holo or even a smaller corpo like Phase they'd get shit on too. Imagine Pippa getting fired and it comes out that Phase was run so badly that it caused her attempt suicide. Phase would get dragged over the coals so fucking hard it'd probably kill the company. Worst case for Niji they can just fall back to their original JP vtubers.