Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Susanna]

Let me guess, western media is painting Navalny’s death as some kind of huge deal?

The best system would have an immortal who has full dictatorship powers but delegates the operation of the country to a democracy, only intervening when things start to get corrupted. Dictators and monarchs eventually grow old and die with their successors being hit or miss.

Precisely! I’m glad you decided to join team Mecha-Stalin.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

ALERT! EMERGENCY ALERT!

 

[Seedling]

Let me guess, western media is painting Navalny’s death as some kind of huge deal?

Precisely! I’m glad you decided to join team Mecha-Stalin.

Literally the second the news broke out Biden came out to make him a saint, that's how you know he sucked CIA cock

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Kings had a vested interest in keeping their societies functioning. Same for dicators, but for kings you could usually count on your family retaining power. You don't shit where you eat.

You could get a Nero, but overall there were incentives not to bungle it too badly.

With the current model, term limits are a double edged sword. Do consider that it means that you can promise everything, get rich without any thoughts on the future, and make a jolly good exit and hand the shit you made to the next guy.

I don't know how to fix it. Perhaps withold politicans salary, and make them do a list with their campaign promises. The more promises they fulfill, the more of their pay they get paid out when their term ends?

The problem with term limits is that they just change the face in the seat, you're not really getting rid of the power behind the guy. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You do have the change of losing the seat, sure, but in America that just means picking whether you want your degeneracy to come fast or on cruise control. It also means you can't have anything that takes more than, say, eight years in America. The faces and visions change, autocrats at least can give you solid visions and policy over decades. The dangers, of course, are seen in, say, the Komnenian dynasty in the Eastern Romans, two brilliant emperors, one very good, and then greed and envy led to a series of events that cut the heart out of the Empire. Also, never trust fucking Oligarchs. People do desire kings though, whether they're de facto or de jure, a good chunk of America's problems could be said to be because one faction is run by people who dream of being oligarchs ruling from the shadows and the other is the American people who have chosen their de facto king.

It does pay to remember that the Founders wanted the franchise heavily restricted and it wasn't until we went to full on Universal Suffrage that everything started going to shit. Most people are idiots and the reasoned, well thought out voters will always be outvoted by the hordes of people incapable of that. This is most of the real fights on the right side of the political spectrum, how widely to distribute political power and to whom. The Left just gives it over to the "fair and unbiased" faceless bureaucrats of the State in an attempt to create a perfect system that will then lead to perfect people and their beige colored luxury gay space communist utopia.

 

[Saleh]

The Roman Republic was never democratic. The senatorial class were aristocrats who ran Rome entirely. The tribunate was a democratic institution but had virtually no real power until late in the Republic. The dictatorship was instituted to give more coherence to military command in times of crisis when the two consul system wasn't feasible.

It worked like an Oligarchy but the question of social mobility for the Plebs meant that the Patricians had to share power with those same plebs. (As shown by the establishment of the office of Tribune of the plebs, the fact that Plebs could rise to high political office and could marry into Patrician families)

Plus, later on, the senate had to massively expand the citizenship in Italy if they didn't want the republic to fall apart.

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

Russian libs are in full meltdown mode because their favorite Glowie-vozhd kicked the bucket.

It is kinda sad though, he was the only decent man in his own organisation. Now all who are still left are room temperature iq grifters.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Nevertheless, people have been laying flowers to the memorials of the victims of Soviet persecution today.

The problem with autocracies is that a good tzar can easily be followed by a bad tzar, and once a bad tzar gets hold of the power structure built by his well-meaning predecessor, bad things happen. Our history saw this happen again and again. Putin will not sit there forever, we do not know who follows him, and if his successor starts jailing people left and right on trumped-up charges, chances are not everyone of them will be trash.

American dems clamor for draconian measures for people they hate, then pikachu face when the same measures are applied to them. You need to be smarter than that. Navalny may be a glowie, but his incarceration and subsequent elimination via prison rot sets up a nasty precedent that I, personally, am not thrilled about. But not because I was fond of Navalny.

Getting involved in politics in real life sounds like fun and you dont need to work on the line packing chicken nuggets. But there is always a down side to it. You step on someone's feet and you end up 6 feet under. You will not even know whose feet it was. No matter where, no matter who. One would claim that Russians have rough hands to get rid of political opponents. Not really. Once you step into public with your personal opinion, doesnt even have to be political, you re already a target for someone. Thats why I m hatin on Teletubbies. Mofos were spreading LGBT propaganda way before Lady Gaga.

 

[Male Idiot]

It does pay to remember that the Founders wanted the franchise heavily restricted and it wasn't until we went to full on Universal Suffrage that everything started going to shit.

I think in interwar Hungary you had to pass some tests to vote. Not sure if it was education or wealth based, but they didn't let CWC vote for sure. And if the vote went retarded, Horthy was there to intervene as a kind of balancing force.

 

[Mav52ri]

That you?
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Sadly not, but it's quite hilarious our choice of words were strikingly similar, but in the end, just a coincidence.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

Democracy is not a real system of governance, it’s a mask for a completely unaccountable(more so than any “autocracy” in which the leaders are obvious) mercantile/bureaucratic ruling class. It actively works to weaken organic social bonds, religion, tradition, and other illiberal social institutions that it cannot directly control.

As predicted by Alexis De tocqueville in Democracy In America, the chapter "what sort of depotism democracies have to fear", written in 1840

He predicted a leviathan that would dissolve or subordinate all other institutions and minutely regulate everything where all the citizens are atomised hedonists. He said it would not compel to action, but prevent action, stupifying a nation until it had reduced everyone to a flock of timid but industrious sheep. He compared it to a parent that did not prepare its children for adulthood, but strove to keep them in a state of childhood forever.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I think in interwar Hungary you had to pass some tests to vote. Not sure if it was education or wealth based, but they didn't let CWC vote for sure. And if the vote went retarded, Horthy was there to intervene as a kind of balancing force.

The American South did that, since it kept the freedmen and poor whites from having a say, but it was eventually declared illegal. Much like employers used to IQ test applicants, until Griggs vs. Duke Power made that illegal. Some places get away with doing it under other metrics. American Football has Wonderlic, so if you want to know the average intelligence of the players in the various positions, you can. There's a reason why most quarterbacks, at least the good ones, are white, and we know that the dumb fuck pounding Taylor Swift for the moment is about 100 IQ. ASVAB in the US Military is similar.

Imagine being so ungrateful that Southern Slave owners fucked your ethnic group into a full standard deviation higher than your original genetic stock that you work to ban anyone's intelligence being considered in positions at all. Although a lot of Africa's problems are nutritional and, amusingly, linguistic. Their languages typically handle abstracts like numbers very poorly and IQ is mostly a measure of abstract thinking. Nutrition just keeps them from hitting their potential.

 

[Fapcop]

Russian libs are in full meltdown mode because their favorite Glowie-vozhd kicked the bucket.

It is kinda sad though, he was the only decent man in his own organisation. Now all who are still left are room temperature iq grifters.

Got some examples?

Also F those faggots. They’ve sold their souls to globohomo, and spent all their waking hours lamenting how backwards their fellow Russians are, and wishing they were in Berlin, London or Niu Jork.

Then, when the few of them who actually follow their convictions and go to their precious west, they get bitter because their genius isn’t recognized and all they’re qualified for in a new country is a minimum wage job cleaning or serving slop at McDonalds.

(And moan endlessly about how amazing the world would be, if only their primitive countrymen were as cultured and broadminded as them.)

 

[Pаzuzu]

Avdeevka is officially surrendered.

 

[Slur Generator]

Although a lot of Africa's problems are nutritional and, amusingly, linguistic. Their languages typically handle abstracts like numbers very poorly and IQ is mostly a measure of abstract thinking. Nutrition just keeps them from hitting their potential.

Its the other way around.
Their languages handle abstracts and numbers very poorly because its something blacks are very bad at.
A lot don't even have past or future tense because the black mind only lives in the present.

 

[Tumbo II]

You hear that friends that's the sound of Ukraine collective shitting itself realizing that all those poor sobs they sent to their death didn't make a Dame bit of difference.

 

[Male Idiot]

Did they raelly need past tense and abstracts for hunting antelopes tho?

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

Avdeevka is officially surrendered.
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Okay that's cool but how does he plan on taking the remaining troops out of the city now that's cut in half and the only way out of it is through a few dirt roads that are being watched 24/7 by Russian artillery and drones?

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

Got some examples?

Sure I do.
The translation is a bit rough on this because I used yandex translation language model. I am not wasting my time and english skills on theese idiots, sorry.

Anyway, here is some classy crying:

This blue checkmark "Comic book guy" went full tard rage over dead glowie

And of course, we cannot forget the Harry Potter fags:

It supposed to say Wands up, but whatever, translatot is shit.

Speaking of wizzard, there's a guy on twitter LARPing as "Necromancer" and asking for donation to cast death hex on Putin:

As you can clearly see, all theese people are mature, stable and well-adjusted brave free thinkers who won't fall for any authoritarian cult of personality and are ready and willing to take power and drive us all towards Magnificent Future Russia.

 

[Givi]

Nothing better than announcing your army maneuvers on Facebook while they're ongoing.

God modern war is fucking retarded.

 

[blablabla]

Its done

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