Have you heard anyone remotely credible argue this, or only online Nazis? Because I've only heard this from the latter source. Because it was a rout. 600,000 men were lost.
I've mentioned it before both here and in other threads, but Alan Clark in his book
Barbarossa, which is most certainly not sympathetic to the Nazis in any respect, does detail that Hitler's stand fast order in the Winter of 1941/1942 following the defeat outside Moscow more than likely prevented the German position in the East from collapsing, as the Red Army (who still hadn't fully recovered the initial assault of the previous summer, and still didn't fully have it's act together tactically speaking) very quickly ran out of steam after the initial counter-attack and soon found itself succumbing to the same maneuver warfare cauldrons the Germans had so successfully employed months earlier.
Now the long term problem with this, though, is that Hitler had ordered the stand fast directive against the advice of his Generals because they had feared that the German divisions would be surrounded and crushed. When that did not happen, showing that Hitler had been right and the generals were wrong, it gave the Furher a confidence and ego boost that made him basically declare "Hell, anyone can run these grand battles!" Come late summer to fall and eventually winter of 1942 and the battle around Stalingrad, though, and Hitler again issues the stand fast directive under the belief that because it worked before, it will work again. We all know how that turned out.
Z Twitter is going to be watching footage until their eyes bleed, trying to be the first to confirm an Abrams kill.
Not sure why they're
that excited. Yeah, mindless propagandists like David Axe have spent over a year writing about how the 30 refurbished Abrams tanks Ukraine received are going to completely turn the tide against the evil RuZZian orcs, but he's an idiot writing for other idiots. There's been video roaming about for years from the ISIS wars and the Yemeni Civil War showing Abrams tanks getting reckted by enemy fire. Hell, even in Desert Storm where the M1 was the undisputed champion, we still had several that were destroyed or disabled by enemy fire. The thing has never been indestructible and anyone who thought so has been playing too many video games.
