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Basically it boils down to this: Putin views Ukraine as a satellite state of Washington and NATO being weaponized and pointed at Russia, Ukraine's position and alliances are a means of applying political pressure to Russia, sort of like the situation between the U.S. and Cuba. Ukraine is just a vector for the West to fuck with Russia in various ways and could potentially pose some greater nebulous threat in the future. Putin is just taking Ukraine off the chessboard before it can be used to checkmate him somehow.
If that's his position then sounds fairly accurate. I mean Washington is literally paying the salaries of the Ukranian government officials and the leaked call of Victoria Nuland has her saying who America will make the next leader and who they will keep out - yes, "satellite state" sounds fairly accurate. And NATO pointed at Russia? Again, not something that can really be denied with them doing NATO training of Ukranians, flooding the country with weapons and shelling Russians living in the Eastern Oblasts. Yeah, Putin basically took the position you say. IIRC, he even said: "If you know that a fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
 
Wait till the wall of silence fails and the first instance of some childless white teacher weirdo transitioning a black kid without their parents permission, or a school taking black kids to see a drag queen story hour for enrichment, reaches the black community.
It will not happen. They are groomers and predators , they specifically target kids of parents who have something to lose aka the middle class . They specifically also target shy kids and kids with terrible parental relationships or where parents are too poor to move or sue. Their victims are always white or white proxies i.e asian upper class. They come from families who foolishly believe still in the system , the closest that managed to screw them over and they couldnt do shit was the indian family who packed up and went back to india, and then gave the recepits to the local Karen to karen the fuck out of them for obvious grooming. Usually the naive white liberal gets fucked by the courts and cps in the state . I genuenly hope that Florida and Texas get anti transh bills where specifically protects families fleeing cps investigations due to refusal to refer their kids to their prefered gender .
 
So I've finally sat through the whole interview. Putin's given reasons for the war are mostly the same nonsensical bullshit reasons that vatniggers will usually shill at you such as "muh denazification", however when you hear the entirety of Putin's speech, there's a truth to be perceived in the margins between the nonsense.

Basically it boils down to this: Putin views Ukraine as a satellite state of Washington and NATO being weaponized and pointed at Russia, Ukraine's position and alliances are a means of applying political pressure to Russia, sort of like the situation between the U.S. and Cuba. Ukraine is just a vector for the West to fuck with Russia in various ways and could potentially pose some greater nebulous threat in the future. Putin is just taking Ukraine off the chessboard before it can be used to checkmate him somehow.
I guess we can cross "military genius" off of Putin's trait list. If we take him at his word and believe that Ukraine is a US and NATO satellite being used to put pressure on Russia wouldn't it make sense then for them to come to Ukraine's aid in the event of an invasion? and following the invasion previously neutral countries like Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO or at least moved even closer to NATO, so in trying to remove Ukraine from the board Putin has added multiple pieces to the board.
 
I guess we can cross "military genius" off of Putin's trait list. If we take him at his word and believe that Ukraine is a US and NATO satellite being used to put pressure on Russia wouldn't it make sense then for them to come to Ukraine's aid in the event of an invasion? and following the invasion previously neutral countries like Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO or at least moved even closer to NATO, so in trying to remove Ukraine from the board Putin has added multiple pieces to the board.
On the Ukraine issue everyone lives in their own reality. About what the parties are and what the motives are.

Some people believe Russia is socialist and supports the LGBT. Others believe the opposite
 
and following the invasion previously neutral countries like Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO or at least moved even closer to NATO, so in trying to remove Ukraine from the board Putin has added multiple pieces to the board.

To be fair, a lot harder to invade Russia from Scandinavia than from the soft steppe underbelly. So not as much of a issue.
 
I guess we can cross "military genius" off of Putin's trait list. If we take him at his word and believe that Ukraine is a US and NATO satellite being used to put pressure on Russia wouldn't it make sense then for them to come to Ukraine's aid in the event of an invasion? and following the invasion previously neutral countries like Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO or at least moved even closer to NATO, so in trying to remove Ukraine from the board Putin has added multiple pieces to the board.
When did America make Cuba a controlled territory like Puerto Rico? By your logic that should've happened during the cold war.
 
I guess we can cross "military genius" off of Putin's trait list. If we take him at his word and believe that Ukraine is a US and NATO satellite being used to put pressure on Russia wouldn't it make sense then for them to come to Ukraine's aid in the event of an invasion?
No, because they're a tacit asset. Then there's the whole quagmire of gathering up troops to send to Ukraine to defend something which officially has nothing to do with defending/avenging U.S. soil.
 
I guess we can cross "military genius" off of Putin's trait list. If we take him at his word and believe that Ukraine is a US and NATO satellite being used to put pressure on Russia wouldn't it make sense then for them to come to Ukraine's aid in the event of an invasion? and following the invasion previously neutral countries like Sweden and Finland have now joined NATO or at least moved even closer to NATO, so in trying to remove Ukraine from the board Putin has added multiple pieces to the board.
The entire point of a satellite state in the modern world is a level of deniability. You control them and can use them as a forward operating base but they are also a deniable asset which you can discard when relevant. If anything, our current commitment to Ukraine is well -beyond- what was expected and stands at odds.
 
The entire point of a satellite state in the modern world is a level of deniability. You control them and can use them as a forward operating base but they are also a deniable asset which you can discard when relevant. If anything, our current commitment to Ukraine is well -beyond- what was expected and stands at odds.
That money doesn't launder itself!
 
Kind of makes me wonder if Zelinsky and other Ukrainian oligarchs are secretly keeping records and info to act as dead-man switches or bargaining chips.
Does it even matter at this point? I feel we are way past the times where a politician's dirty laundry could cause an outrage that might topple them.

The society has lost its impetus. The incessant erosion of morality has led to the degenerates filming themselves ass-fucking in Senate and the presidential family stashing drugs in the White House and nobody gives a single flying fuck.

Zelensky & Co. can go all "President Biden was biting off heads of small children on camera" and the response will be "well what do you expect from a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory, leave him alone. Also vote Biden 2024 to save Our Democracy."

And people will vote Biden 2024 because he is Not Frump.
 
Does it even matter at this point? I feel we are way past the times where a politician's dirty laundry could cause an outrage that might topple them.

The society has lost its impetus. The incessant erosion of morality has led to the degenerates filming themselves ass-fucking in Senate and the presidential family stashing drugs in the White House and nobody gives a single flying fuck.

Zelensky & Co. can go all "President Biden was biting off heads of small children on camera" and the response will be "well what do you expect from a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory, leave him alone. Also vote Biden 2024 to save Our Democracy."

And people will vote Biden 2024 because he is Not Frump.
Hunter's laptop as an example, they'll just call it "Russian disinformation" and boom no scandal. Or my favorite, King nigger's "scandal free administration" TV man said it therefore it's true.
 
The incessant erosion of morality has led to the degenerates filming themselves ass-fucking in Senate and the presidential family stashing drugs in the White House
No one even brings this up. At all. Shows you how far America has slipped into degeneracy when the showcase Catholic cathedral in NYC held a funeral mass for an atheist illegal tranny prostitute with placards calling it the mother of whores and the priest officiating said it "died with Christ". In whom the dead tranny hooker didn't believe in.
 
No one even brings this up. At all. Shows you how far America has slipped into degeneracy when the showcase Catholic cathedral in NYC held a funeral mass for an atheist illegal tranny prostitute with placards calling it the mother of whores and the priest officiating said it "died with Christ". In whom the dead tranny hooker didn't believe in.
This is downright satanic, and not in a good way.
 
Because America is the world's hegemon and its presence and influence is felt everywhere across the globe.
Sure, but England was cucked like thirty years earlier and the theories the academics pass around are from France.

And most European countries have some kind of actual law to punish you for bitching about it.

It’s bad that we let things get where they are, but it’s not our invention.
 
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