Canada is a failed state

[geckogoy]

I'm assuming its obvious to all of you that the gay furry avatar retard doesn't have your best interests in mind

 

[BeetleBug242]

I'm assuming its obvious to all of you that the gay furry avatar retard doesn't have your best interests in mind

I’m really trying not to be a dickhead and shit up the thread.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Very few immigrants I know that came here 10+ years ago support the mass migration going on. They also tend to be super racist.

I doubt it would affect his polling numbers to go against it.

 

[Brutality]

Schizo theory here but I personally think that Polievre is being set up to fail by the current administration. Justin and the Liberal party must know deep down that they will be trounced out of office wether the election is this year or next and they're just choosing to do nothing for now because it will be expedient for them come the 46th election in 2028/9.

As for Poilievre himself I genuinely want him to do well as any idiot with half a brain would be better than the cuck prince, but on certain issues he's such a fence sitting bitch it's insane, people can make the argument that "he's gonna cut immigration/etc when he gets in, he's just letting the liberals fuck up right now". At the very least he's started forming a spine on the tranny shit (albeit after being pressed)

 

[Catler]

I'm assuming its obvious to all of you that the gay furry avatar retard doesn't have your best interests in mind

God forbid someone have opinions on this country and its future that aren't strictly right wing right? I want Canada to be successful and thrive, I mean if it doesn't I kind of have to suffer along with everyone else.

I’m really trying not to be a dickhead and shit up the thread.

Neither am I, but I'm going to correct incorrect information like "we're in a recession".

 

[geckogoy]

I want Canada to be successful and thrive, I mean if it doesn't I kind of have to suffer along with everyone else.

 

[BeetleBug242]

Yes. Things are clearly improving. Things are progressing forward in a positive incline. Rates are getting better. Inflation too. The housing markets are settling. The businesses are recovering. People are showing up ready and able to live the great northern dream we have. The police are protecting us more than ever. We have developed and invested in natural industry ten fold. We are the strongest we’ve ever been military wise. Our federal government has grown 33% and we have seen a huge increase in oversight and regulation to help keep the innocent Canadians protected from multinational corporations. We have seen the education sector be something that world aspires to achieve. Many intellectual and influential people flock to Canada for business and market opportunities. Drug and human trafficking is at an all time low. Crime sprees are unheard of. People feel safe and protected here in Canada. You’re right, how silly of me. Of course there isn’t a recession. That would be super silly. I’m going to wait until the feds tell me what to think!

I don’t know what people expect, do you think this is a normal game anymore? You think they are playing by the rules? They want you dead.

 

[y a t s]

There is where I just can't get onboard with a lot of you guys. There's nothing wrong about his personal background, people 'race mixing', and we don't need to return to 'tradition' to fix the country.

Looking backwards and hoping for the past is a doomed strategy and isn't something most people actually want. A lot of issues in this country could be taken care of quickly if any level of government had even the mildest of interest in doing so, but some of the issues we're facing are going to be really painful to fix from an economic perspective (we're definitely going to repeat the 90s recession).

I swear people who complain about gays, abortion, and race can't analyze complex problems so they fall back onto typical boogeymen as scapegoats for bigger issues.

The main issue is the major shift in cultural values and what is seen as normal. I don't think many, if any, here hate all gays like we hate the degenerate faggots that dress like dogs in pride parades or walk around naked in front of children. Similar logic goes with pretty much all other groups we talk about here. There are perfectly fine people in such groups that live normal, quiet lives, contribute to their country, and they should have every right to do so. But for every one of those, we have 1000 sex pests, freeloaders, and criminals.

There was once a time where a majority of society had a reasonably clear view of morality. There have always been moral panics throughout history, but there is an element of truth behind the concerns presented in them. The Overton window has shifted to the point we have to cheer on the people committing these wrongs in our society if we want a job, working bank account, and life. Don't like all of the people here causing problems? Bigot. Don't like crosswalks being painted to celebrate open fetishists? Super bigot. Don't like not being able to voice your concerns without getting into legal trouble for "hate speech"? You're literally Hitler.

There was a clip that circulated on Twitter a while back where some guy called the Toronto police to inquire about the legality of men walking around naked in the pride parade in front of actual children. The representative on the phone essentially said they won't do anything about it because it's part of celebrating that particular culture. There are now tons of clips of scholars brazenly stealing from Gucci stores on Twitter with people in replies trying to blame economic circumstances leading people to act in such a way—despite the fact they're never stealing food from a grocery store. I know that is more of a USA issue, but it speaks to the shift in cultural values and what becomes acceptable in the eyes of the masses.

Like how Singh is a landlord and therefore can't properly fight for the rights of tenants, we can't expect the adopted child of gay men who is married to and has a child with a foreigner to argue against the vast over-correction we are seeing that has allowed for faggotry, theft, and detrimental levels of immigration. Sure, there was once a time where fags were stoned, and we don't necessarily need to bring that back, but the older ways of thinking were formed much like we were: refined, through trial and error, over an inconceivable amount of time. They're not all that bad and have brought us a long way. After seeing the effects of this rhetoric I was once a supporter of to some degree, I can see the place for traditional values, slow incremental change, and classical (often Christian) morality. I have seen what a world without God looks like, and I can never unsee it. We need people to be able to speak to obligations beyond themselves and their mortal lives, which was the original purpose of swearing in on the Bible down south.

The ways of thinking I once had, and I somewhat see you expressing, are based solely in wishful thinking and assumptions others will act the ways we do. It's the essence of dangerous optimism.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

aren't strictly right wing

Apparently not allowing children to be groomed by troon pedos is right wing because your supply of playthings will dry up.
Nice try.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

God, sometimes I fucking hate being a net taxpayer in this country.

Id fedpost, but yeah. Unironically taxation is theft in this country because all of it is either going to Palestine, or Natives, or New Canadians- while you and your communities just get poorer and handed out free heroin to kill yourself with.

Lets not ignore the fact that as of right now if he got in and meaningfully cut immigration he would very likely cause a recession and there is no chance any party is going to take that risk.

While it would suck, and I mean it would really, really, really fucking suck-

If he said "look, Trudeau fucked up with open immigration. In order to save the country, Im going to need to cut immigration off entirely, this will cause things to be even more fucked up for a decade and well go into an immediate recession for now, but your kids will thank you for it"

I'd bite the bullet. Id bite it at 90%, 80% cut in immigration, etc. We do not need to import 500 million people a year. Frankly, that number needs to be below 100 million a year (what most nations tend to have, and many are well below that)- but even then we still have a 1.5 million home shortfall currently

So the actual numbers should indicate that what we actually need is a net negative migration rate, not even just a cut at this point.

All this talk about causing an immediate recession actually equates to "well keep tossing the hot potato around and some poor sod 40 years from now will pay for it". Immigration at our current rate is causing problems, and they are going to be more structurally difficult to solve (and potentially more destructive) in the long term, than the short. If its a case of ripping off the bandaid now, so be it.

Neither am I, but I'm going to correct incorrect information like "we're in a recession".

Remember when Wikipedia admins redefined recession to make it so we wern't in a recession? Words are meaningless, shit sucks, most people understand where we are and that things are bad. You're not doing anyone a favor with "well achtually"

 

[Catler]

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It's comical how upset some of you get when someone takes a slightly different stance and this thread isn't a hug box for right wingers. We live in a big country where people can barely agree on anything at the best of times and where regional divides are vast, you shouldn't be surprised I don't toe your line.

Yes. Things are clearly improving. Things are progressing forward in a positive incline. Rates are getting better. Inflation too. The housing markets are settling. The businesses are recovering. People are showing up ready and able to live the great northern dream we have. The police are protecting us more than ever. We have developed and invested in natural industry ten fold. We are the strongest we’ve ever been military wise. Our federal government has grown 33% and we have seen a huge increase in oversight and regulation to help keep the innocents Canadians protected from multinational corporations. We have seen the education sector be something that world aspires to achieve. Many intellectual and influential people flock to Canada for business and market opportunities. Drug and human trafficking is at an all time low. Crime sprees are unheard of. People feel safe and protected here in Canada. You’re right, how silly of me. Of course there isn’t a recession. That would be super silly. I’m going to wait until the feds tell me what to think!

I don’t know what people expect, do you think this is a normal game anymore? You think they are playing by the rules? They want you dead.

I like you as a poster, but this is unhinged doomposting. You're talking purely from an emotional standpoint whereas I am talking about raw numbers and by the numbers we have not entered a recession yet to the surprise of many. We will as it's just a matter of time, but if we're going to have a discussion about this country it should be based in actual fact.

Apparently not allowing children to be groomed by troon pedos is right wing because your supply of playthings will dry up.
Nice try.

Nice accusation, it's very typical when some of you folks don't have a valid argument. Want a reality check? 6/10 (7/10 if you include Quebec and the CAQ) provinces have conservative governments and they have a lot of power to make the changes you want if your main concerns are things like homos and sex ed. Blaine Higgs actually did tackle some of these so called "issues" recently.

What do you think will change come federal election time if you're already so unhappy about the state of things when most governments in Canada already are conservative? Do you actually have legitimate complaints, or are you a brain dead voter who only focuses on social issues?

Remember when Wikipedia admins redefined recession to make it so we wern't in a recession? Words are meaningless, shit sucks, most people understand where we are and that things are bad. You're not doing anyone a favor with "well achtually"

We straight up do not currently meet the technical definition of a recession.

If he said "look, Trudeau fucked up with open immigration. In order to save the country, Im going to need to cut immigration off entirely, this will cause things to be even more fucked up for a decade and well go into an immediate recession for now, but your kids will thank you for it"

The magic number on immigration is somewhere above zero, but I don't know where it actually is. The last thing we need are more Skip delivery guys though.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

We straight up do not currently meet the technical definition of a recession.

Who. Cares. What. The. Technical. Definition. Is.


Your arguing essentially is the same thing people do with war.

"Well achtually, the Vietnam war wasn't a war"

If you want a general definition:

Most of the nation has a decline in economic activity. Don't care if Rogers is reporting profits, you ask anyone if they are spending more, and they will flat out tell you, no. Fits my definition with underemployment, unemployment, real income, etc.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

Want a reality check? 6/10, or 7/10 if you include Quebec, of provinces have conservative governments and they have a lot of power to make the changes you want if your main concerns are things like homos and sex ed.

I have no idea what subterranean dwelling you have been living in but the only real conservative party at any level is the Alberta provincial one headed by Danielle Smith.
Everything else became conservative in name only well over a decade ago.
When you have the federal one pushing people like Erin the Tool as the candidate, it becomes clear that they are not conservative in the least and are simply a uniparty with the libtards and orange judeo-bolsheviks.
Names and appearances mean nothing today, only actions.

by the numbers we have not entered a recession yet to the surprise of many

When the (((uniparty))) can change the definition at will, it no longer matters.
When you see vast amounts of Canadians forced to turn to the food banks while imported shitskins get thousands from the government for free, there is something very wrong with the country, its economy, and its leadership.

 

[Catler]

Who. Cares. What. The. Technical. Definition. Is.

Are you a Canadian? You don't spell like one and posting a screenshot of American news doesn't help your case.

You can't have a discussion on things like the economy without basic numbers and the numbers are....dun...dun...duh...the economy grew more than expected to end 2023 at 1.5% for the year. The central bank projected 1%.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

We are not officially in a recession by definition, but I can acknowledge the fact that for the average person things are getting worse regardless of what the actual numbers are.

per capita we are in a recession.

GDP line only goes up because of the fake and gay real estate bubble.

 

[Fried-Rice12]

Are you a Canadian? You don't spell like one and posting a screenshot of American news doesn't help your case.

You can't have a discussion on things like the economy without basic numbers and the numbers are....dun...dun...duh...the economy grew more than expected to end 2023 at 1.5% for the year. The central bank projected 1%.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/armstrong-inflation-cpi-bank-of-canada-1.7000464

https://globalnews.ca/news/10182108/poll-canadians-fearful-housing-crisis/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/the-grind-submissions-1.7043269

Even the state propaganda outlets has unwittingly admitted that things are going badly.

Of course the economy is growing when people HAVE TO WORK 2 FUCKING JOBS JUST TO SURVIVE you judeo-bolshevik furry (((new world order))) cocksucker.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Are you a Canadian? You don't spell like one and posting a screenshot of American news doesn't help your case.

You can't have a discussion on things like the economy without basic numbers and the numbers are....dun...dun...duh...the economy grew more than expected to end 2023 at 1.5% for the year. The central bank projected 1%.

Oi vey, fuck off. Seems like the moment someone pushes back its "an American", someone can't take a different opinion?

If you want to talk basic numbers, nothing has stated that people here aren't willing to.

Look at the price of food, the price of electricity, houses, etc.

People are spending "significantly" less- that fits the definition of recession. Don't care if its "oh nooooo, recession needs 30% less". Noone gives a shit about the technical definition at this point, because neolibs have literally changed it on a whim to look less bad.

Compare our economy pre-covid, with today, and Ill tell you if we're in a recession.

 

[SilentDuck]

Another hobby of mine destroyed by the new groups in power (troons, Pajeets, sand niggers, nigger niggers, libtards, etc.). This time it's amateur radio. I had better buy a 2nd HackRF and Proxmark while I still can

LimeSDR is also on the list. Find yourself a patsy to use it you can, buying this shit or trying to import it will likely get you on a government list if not already.

per capita we are in a recession.

GDP line only goes up because of the fake and gay real estate bubble.

Contracting economy since at least the 1980s if you exclude government spending, oil and real estate.

Anyone peddling that there is currently no recession because Trudeau and the "Mister SPEEEEEEEEEEEKER" lady, both of whom massage statistics about themselves and their performance to soviet levels of reliability is practically insane.

 

[Catler]

When you have the federal one pushing people like Erin the Tool as the candidate

O'Toole was a leader put in at a time when the party and it's members knew they weren't winning the next election. He was for all intents and purposes a burner leader.

Compare our economy pre-covid, with today, and Ill tell you if we're in a recession.

There are economic challenges compared to pre-covid, but the numbers disagree with you on this as well. This is like arguing with a brick wall, you don't care about reality, just how you feel personally about it.

Look at the price of food, the price of electricity, houses, etc.

Inflation and interest rates are another issue entirely and one I'm not prepared to touch if you already are denying basic facts.

Of course the economy is growing when people HAVE TO WORK 2 FUCKING JOBS JUST TO SURVIVE you judeo-bolshevik furry (((new world order))) cocksucker.

The media loves doom articles and unless you provide statistics about multi-job individuals I'm not going to humour it. The CBC simply saying "more Canadians worked several jobs" doesn't actually mean anything and is unsourced, even if I suspect it is likely due to inflation (but inflation is again another issue than what we were discussing).

You realize a whole lot of us are doing great too right? Better than we ever have, but you don't see those articles because they don't get clicks.

 

[BeetleBug242]

My co worker just told me 12 years they were making 14$ for minimum wage. It’s now 16$. Food in the past four years alone has gone up dollars per item across the board. People aren’t getting pay raises and costs keep climbing. Reality for many normal people is grim right now.