Litigation Fund

[Poop Shoot]

I am so happy for the farms raising this much. I cite the farms as one of the resources that has helped me act more civilized throughout the years, adhering to standards that help me better myself. It's a luxury you won't get on other sites.

I’m sincerely glad you bettered yourself, but my god man, how feral were you?

 

[Tismguide]

I think the vast majority of donations were small-dollar amounts. Even if the majority of us are poorfags, we are very active poorfags and our contributions do add up over awhile. Most of us understand that if Kiwi Farms goes down, you can pretty much say goodbye to free speech on the internet as it has gotten so cucked by corporate gatekeepers and government censorship for the past fifteen years or so.

Compare this to other online communities that have vast userbases who really do not give a fuck most of the time and would not contribute a fucking dime even if they had millions.

A recurring theme with #DropKiwifarms is that they fundamentally don't understand the forum or its users. Over a year ago I remember them passing around arguments about how the site would permanently lose X users every day it was down, etc, because they've read papers about how bad downtime is for a generic site with (presumably) many alternatives and extrapolate to this one. Their "privilege" of having politically acceptable opinions blinds them to what it's like for those who don't.

Relatedly, they seem to believe their own propaganda that we're all a bunch of extremists when I suspect that, at least behind closed doors, our opinions on many political topics are more representative than theirs. They think we all hate the trans, confusing distaste for their despicable behavior as bigotry. Their idea of "mainstream" opinions is what the 1-2% extremest and loudest tended to post on pre-Elon Twitter. They think "progress" happened and passed us by; I think that their "progress" never actually happened. We shall see.

I know they are also trying to **change** the definition of "mainstream" and some of this may just be them talking that way, which is a sensible tactic in politics, but you still want to know where the line is *today* even if you are trying to change it, and if your life experiences are limited to blue cities, tech companies, and the troon community, you'll have a hard time understanding normal people. This is also why the attempt to cancel Hogwarts Legacy fell so flat -- they overestimated their popularity by confusing apathy, fear, and manufactured consent for actual support.

Now you can just as easily flip that argument onto us of course -- it is just my opinion. But the way their predictions keep being wrong supports my claim and you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.

 

[Pee Cola]

I think the proportion of users who are grown-up professionals with salaries has been wildly underestimated by the attackers of this site.

I also think the average age of KF users has also been underestimated by the Farms' enemies.

As @FedPostalService pointed out, KF feels like the Internet of old. Whilst the interface and multimedia content is modern, much of the underlying dialogue is a throwback to the Usenet and BBS era. Someone who was haunting newsgroups or FidoNet 30 years ago is going to be in their 40s or 50s by now.

These are people who are old enough to remember when the current year mainstream narrative was largely restricted to university campuses and even people on the left would mercilessly rip the piss out of the Politically Correct. Back in those days, it was the right who were vehemently anti-free speech. Now it's the left who are just as unhinged as the Religious Right was back during the height of the Satanic Panic.

imo this also explains why KF is not the far right "Nazi" monoculture (((TPTB))) want people to think it is. I can't be the only one who used to identify with the left, only to be pushed to the right whilst standing on the exact same spot they always have.

Above all, you're never too old to go into a chat room and spam "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" from time to time. It's about as harmful as a fart joke, and unless you're the dullest dullard who ever dulled, there's no such thing as being too old for toilet humour.

tl;dr: KF is full of people who are old enough to have kids in basements of their own and plenty of older KF users are cashed up

 

[themarchivist2]

A recurring theme with #DropKiwifarms is that they fundamentally don't understand the forum or its users.

I think it's an exercise in futility to describe KF's userbase as a monolith, in general. The people behind DKF seem to believe we're some close-knit hivemind Neo-Nazi sect, that we all know each other, and that we spend our days coordinating organized harassment plans. But Kiwi Farms is a forum with literal thousands of daily active users and threads. Most of those users are only here to shitpost, or only post in one or two specific threads. Most users here never interact with most other users. Every board on the site, and even a lot of individual threads, have their own culture. A lot of them aren't even explicitly anti-troon.

So it's hilarious that outsiders seem to talk about us like we're an organized Skype group or private Discord server, when we're effectively a full-scale social media site.

 

[Roland TB-303]

I’m super late but I sent what I could. Got my first baby on the way and need to re-do the spare room into a nursery and buy all the fancy techno-baby shit. I believe in the cause though and this thread has filled me with optimism and joy, Godspeed speds.

 

[Sperghetti]

I think the proportion of users who are grown-up professionals with salaries has been wildly underestimated by the attackers of this site.

I also think the average age of KF users has also been underestimated by the Farms' enemies.

As @FedPostalService pointed out, KF feels like the Internet of old. Whilst the interface and multimedia content is modern, much of the underlying dialogue is a throwback to the Usenet and BBS era. Someone who was haunting newsgroups or FidoNet 30 years ago is going to be in their 40s or 50s by now.

I think the distribution of the donations has been interesting. Obviously there's been a ton of donations total and they range anywhere from $10 to a few thousand (see: recent check announcement), but think it's telling just how many were posted about in this thread that fell into the $100-$1000 range.

There was a screenshot of a Twitter post either here or in the seething thread a while back where somebody was wondering about our "whales". Obviously there've been a few big donations (again, recent check announcement), but I get the feeling that it's not like the fundraisers they're used to where the whole thing is carried by a former Google employee or two.

But Kiwi Farms is a forum with literal thousands of daily active users and threads. Most of those users are only here to shitpost, or only post in one or two specific threads. Most users here never interact with most other users

On more than one occasion, I've gone to gawk at a thread after it popped up in Community Happenings only to find it full of active users that I'd never seen anywhere else before. Like stumbling across some lost, uncontacted tribe of autists.

 

[Pee Cola]

I think it's an exercise in futility to describe KF's userbase as a monolith, in general. The people behind DKF seem to believe we're some close-knit hivemind Neo-Nazi sect, that we all know each other, and that we spend our days coordinating organized harassment plans.

The DKF cabal are just telling on themselves by pushing that narrative.

I think the distribution of the donations has been interesting. Obviously there's been a ton of donations total and they range anywhere from $10 to a few thousand (see: recent check announcement), but think it's telling just how many were posted about in this thread that fell into the $100-$1000 range.

A while back, someone worked out that the average donation to the fund was around $150 per donor. I think this says a lot about how much some people value KF, along with all the work Null has done to keep the Farms afloat.

One of the biggest whitepills I've taken from this thread is that even the most financially constrained Farmers are doing their part, and they have been recognised for their contribution by way of positive stickies. It doesn't matter if you've donated $5 or $5k, if you post your receipt ITT you'll get a Semper Fi from me.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Most users here never interact with most other users.

Can confirm. In big community threads like this one, I run into people I've never seen before.

One of the biggest whitepills I've taken from this thread is that even the most financially constrained Farmers are doing their part, and they have been recognised for their contribution by way of positive stickies.

This website and the fat cheese man who runs it are the biggest whitepills in today's clown world. They're proof that things aren't so far gone as people think. We just need someone willing to fight back. It helps that, of all the infamous figures on the internet, Josh doesn't have much baggage beyond being an idiot as a kid (as opposed to Spic Fuentes and Vaush.)

 

[Dick Mason]

There are other sites with the same diversity with free speech, but tbh they are even more autistic than us and not in a good way. The cacophony can be unbearable. Kiwifarms have some sort of structure, implicite rules about not being an obnoxious asshole and yet let you sperg on stupid stuff, we may be rude and sometimes do slapfights but at least the conversation go somewhere and the moderation is not a shitfest (that why I can't fanthom how much foul you have to be to be banned from KF).
It's relaxing for once.
Maybe Mumsnet but I'm not familiar enough to know about the moderation and it's about moms life

IMO the key strength really is in the moderation. Most sites are over/under/poorly moderated. Being able to tard-wrangle such a diverse population can't be easy, especially when so many hate you and would go to insane lengths to trash your everything.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

IMO the key strength really is in the moderation. Most sites are over/under/poorly moderated. Being able to tard-wrangle such a diverse population can't be easy, especially when so many hate you and would go to insane lengths to trash your everything.

I think the user base's ability to self-moderate feeds into that, newfags who don't get the culture of the board/thread they're posting in are usually either corrected or shunned without a janny having to get involved. Our ability to call each other niggers who should kill themselves, funnily enough, encourages prosocial behaviour in a way that forcibly polite environments can't.

 

[Pee Cola]

I think the user base's ability to self-moderate feeds into that, newfags who don't get the culture of the board/thread they're posting in are usually either corrected or shunned without a janny having to get involved.

imo this is more evidence that the average Farmer is older than many people think. The phrase "OP is a faggot" has been around for at least 20 years, so there's a good chance that an especially faggy newfag OP's faggotry is being called out by someone who is old enough to be one of their parents.

Our ability to call each other niggers who should kill themselves, funnily enough, encourages prosocial behaviour in a way that forcibly polite environments can't.

I remember when you could sign off a post with FOAD or DIAF and nobody got cancelled over it.

The fact that it's now less offensive to call someone a cunt than it is to call them a nigger or a faggot demonstrates the absolute state of current year discourse.

 

[beautiful person]

Finally got my ass down to the post office and got a money order sent off.

 

[Psicopax]

Sorry I’m late. Had to wait a month for my paycheck to arrive. Only had $100 to spare but I did my part. Good luck, Null. O7



Edit: Fucked up the image embed lol

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

A group of people from the city saw on the news that a grumpy, but mostly harmless, farmer was being harassed by mean people because they don't like what they had to say. These people got together and traveled down to his farm out in the country. Having never seen a lolcow farm before, they are naturally curious.

They find Old Man Moon on a cliff overlooking the valley his farm is in. From here they can see it all, the roaming lolcows, the laughing onlookers, and the enormous walls surrounding it all. "Mr. Moon! What is this farm for?" The city folk ask, and Mr. Moon, without turning around answers, "Like to laugh at retards, niglets, and trannies. Watch 'em from here." The city folk nod their heads, they've heard of zoos before.

"Mr. Moon! Why are your walls so thick and so high?" The crowd asks. Again, without turning to them, Moon responds, "Had to build 'em. Bad people don't like it when people know they're bad people doing bad things. Kept attacking my farm. Bad year for crops." The crowd nods again, they know that bad actors don't like it when their history is known.

"Mr. Moon! With your walls so tall, and your cows safe and secure, what will you do to stop the people attacking your farm?" Moon pauses for a moment, and finally turns to face the crowd. The wind blows. His long, flowing hair billowing. His coat opened, revealing glistening six-pack abs.

"Now we build the spear, to send a message"

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

My check finally posted!
Sent 2/2/24
Cleared 2/21/24

 

[DavidS877]

Woo, mine too.

Still sad I didn't go for the meme with $X.41

 

[smile.jpg]

You received approximately $130 in bitcoin from me sometime last week stalker, enjoy litigation.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I like how this thread works as a double reminder that I need to do my damn taxes and throw some T&H around to get some more money in the coffers.
Got two people I'm on the hook for already.

 

[GunCar Gary]

very interesting that social media access for Kiwi Farms was expanded on multiple platforms just days/weeks after the lawsuit fundraiser was a success. no idea if that's a side effect of work Null has been doing in the background with his ample free time but sure seems like those two things could be related

 

[Null]

very interesting that social media access for Kiwi Farms was expanded on multiple platforms just days/weeks after the lawsuit fundraiser was a success. no idea if that's a side effect of work Null has been doing in the background with his ample free time but sure seems like those two things could be related

I don't think it is. I just think the dam is breaking. Tranny tears are no longer as useful.