Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

[thejackal2]

Love how some are arguing Arizona is the same as Canada. Lmao. Being close to Arizona here in Utah, we get some of that heat in the summer. It's ass. You drive your car. Can you walk? Yes. If you don't have water with you, you won't make it a mile. Arizona is infinitely worse.

You'd think all these "urbanists" would know geography a little better when they are ranting about how AZ is totally like Europe. Most of Europe, including the areas people associate with the warm parts, sits above the 40th latitude. Phoenix sits around the 33rd and is in a natural heat dome area, unlike most of Europe, which gets the moderating Atlantic currents.

AZ from like May to September is only livable by modern technology. You can argue about the necessity of living in a hot ass desert when other places have a more hospitable climate, but FFS it's not Spain, it's not Rome. The closest comp someone got was Perth, and I'd imagine being around the same latitude and climate as Phoenix, Perth is mostly the same except in the opposite months being in the southern hemisphere. And again, if Aussies had a better place to live, they'd probably do so, but Australia isn't exactly known as a great place to have super dense populations either. It's only through modern economy it works at all.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I am not American, but Arizona wasn't in the past less populated? People today live in those states despite the high temperature because of newer technology.

Yes. Really it's because of the water getting piped in there. Without that, there'd basically be no real way to live in that desert.

You'd think all these "urbanists" would know geography a little better when they are ranting about how AZ is totally like Europe. Most of Europe, including the areas people associate with the warm parts, sits above the 40th latitude. Phoenix sits around the 33rd and is in a natural heat dome area, unlike most of Europe, which gets the moderating Atlantic currents.

AZ from like May to September is only livable by modern technology. You can argue about the necessity of living in a hot ass desert when other places have a more hospitable climate, but FFS it's not Spain, it's not Rome. The closest comp someone got was Perth, and I'd imagine being around the same latitude and climate as Phoenix, Perth is mostly the same except in the opposite months being in the southern hemisphere. And again, if Aussies had a better place to live, they'd probably do so, but Australia isn't exactly known as a great place to have super dense populations either. It's only through modern economy it works at all.

The reason Arizona exists economically is mining. Lots of minerals that are easy to get to. That's why anyone is there in the first place. Otherwise people would leave. They wouldn't have invested in pumping in so much water from other states.

 

[F-14 Tomcat]

Some dumbasses think you can plant a forest in the desert:

Have these people ever been to Arizona? All the areas that support forests are in the mountains and not very densely populated.

 

[DavidS877]

They'll complain about not enough greenery in Phoenix and how it needs more trees and grass so it can be 'walkable'.

Then they'll complain about all the water being wasted on all the trees and grass.

Personally I have no idea why anyone lives there, but whatever.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Stereotypical soyboy calls out Urbanists for not understanding constituency politics and generally thinking cute graphics will lead America into Islamig Gommunism

(Ghostarchive, PreserveTube)
Jason's going to HATE being placed in the same collage as Road Guy Rob.

But the soyboy is right. Urbanists are Internet-addicted tards and grifters who don't actually go outside and advocate for whatever misguided ideals they want implemented. He missed a huge reason why they don't, though, and it's that urbanists hate disagreement. Talking to people with opposing viewpoints is anathema and that's why they sit on Reddit circlejerking all day instead of going to their city council meetings. Jason Slaughter is the best exemplar of this as shown by his BlueSky posts in the video.

Unsurprisingly Jason hasn't watched the video at all. How can I tell? Because he says "the myth circulates that I never provide solutions" and "I have been promoting Strong Towns since before Not Just Bikes was even a thing", even though Strong Towns is one of the very things named and criticised in the video. (The Nth Review's point being that all that Strong Towns do is literally just paint some lines on roads and can't pour concrete or do anything else, LMAO.) More evidence of him not having watched the video is when he says "go watch something else", even though the video's point is that literally every single urbanist channel is guilty of what he criticises.


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I mean this is basically what he did with that wheelchair user who criticised Amsterdam. He didn't actually read what she wrote and found the shortest path to either misunderstand or ignore what was written. This is clearly a pattern with how Jason responds to criticism (or rather, doesn't).

Bonus lolmilk: Jason has started whining about """harassment""", a common lolcow trait.

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And he still thinks that Strong Towns actually does anything important.

It's occurred to me just how ironic this is. Jason accuses every North American city of being ignorant and not listening to criticism, while he himself does the exact same thing.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Ok I'm just confused by them claiming this stadium is peak performance cause supposedly 100k people can get there without a car.

Stadiums are events. People can park a mile away and walk, and some people go great distances just to be in person at an event.

If you have to explain to someone that just because someone travels at least an hour to get somewhere, then has to park their car and walk over a mile, doesn't mean that the same person would be willing to do it as part of their daily commute...then they are a lost cause.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Bonus lolmilk: Jason has started whining about """harassment""", a common lolcow trait.

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Is he talking about our humble thread . Hi Jason. How's the hate read going?

 

[Xarpho's Return]

It's occurred to me just how ironic this is. Jason accuses every North American city of being ignorant and not listening to criticism, while he himself does the exact same thing.

If you want to know a universal truth about every lolcow and/or leftist, it's a hell of a lot of projection and not affording others the same benefits that you do.

Jason has outright stated at least once that the Dutch way of doing things (and by extension, the whole urbanism/Strong Towns dogma) is objectively right. He isn't interested in debate and is no different than a religious zealot on a street corner--believe in the "right" thing or go straight to hell. And like religious zealots, has a number of commonalities: zero likability, avoids every hard question, and actually not part of any religion but rather a cult dedicated to the earthly enrichment of others.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Adam Kovacs ("Adam Something") defended horsefucker and pedophile Vaush and called the H3 podcast on him "extremely weird and bad faith." This is the same lolcow's who's featured on the front page today because he just posted a 2 hour long video digging a deeper hole for himself.


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You know, after this and Jason Slaughter sucking up to tranny Lucas "Keffals" Roberts of Catboy Ranch minor grooming fame (which now has a Know Your Meme page (a)), I'm beginning to reconsider my belief that urbanists aren't sex pests, or at least the belief that they are people who have a problem with sex pests and don't actively enable them.

 

[quaawaa]

I'm beginning to reconsider my belief that urbanists aren't sex pests, or at least the belief that they are people who have a problem with sex pests and don't actively enable them.

Amsterdam is famous for drugs and prostitution….

I’m surprised Jason hasn’t made a video about how Bangkok has the best “urban design” in the world given his love of transsexual e-celebs.

 

[teriyakiburns]

After all if I remember correctly the UK is also the country with the "15 minute" city where you get fined for driving outside your assigned sector

Canterbury and Sheffield had proposals for "15 minute cities", but so did a lot of cities around the world. The only thing resembling a "15 minute city" that was actually implemented is in Oxford, where travel through the city centre is restricted in an attempt to reduce traffic and certain streets are going to be blocked off to non-resident traffic edit: as part of an experiment, apparently. It isn't a particularly popular thing and people are ignoring it. There's been a severe loss of retail in the areas they've implemented it.

 

[Ensok]

Personally I have no idea why anyone lives there, but whatever.

I think it's kind of cool being somewhere that hot. It's like a statement. Certain parts of Arizona are up there with parts of Australia, the middle east, and north Africa when it comes to unlivably horrible. It's right next to Death Valley for a reason. It's just that for most of those other places people have been there a lot longer and middle easterners have darker skin, and have adapted their clothing style and everything towards it. Americans just use technology to deal with it instead.

I was at Arizona last year when it was 115 every day and I saw people jogging, walking dogs, playing golf, and biking. Because they're used to it. So the urbanists aren't totally wrong that eventually you can adapt and don't need a car or air conditioning for everything, but they're horribly underestimating how bad it can get too.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Adam Kovacs ("Adam Something") defended horsefucker and pedophile Vaush and called the H3 podcast on him "extremely weird and bad faith." This is the same lolcow's who's featured on the front page today because he just posted a 2 hour long video digging a deeper hole for himself.


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You know, after this and Jason Slaughter sucking up to tranny Lucas "Keffals" Roberts of Catboy Ranch minor grooming fame (which now has a Know Your Meme page (a)), I'm beginning to reconsider my belief that urbanists aren't sex pests, or at least the belief that they are people who have a problem with sex pests and don't actively enable them.

These leftist causes do tend to have an overlap even when on the surface they shouldn't. It's refreshing, though, the same people that want to corrupt the world with degeneracy are connected to the same people who think I shouldn't even be able to park my car in a garage.

Adam is a creep, a commie, and a complete moron that thinks $2.8 billion ($4B adjusting for inflation) for the Katy Freeway expansion is too much but $128+ billion for CASHR is worth every penny.

Jason...I'm not sure on. Rich asshole, check. Grifter supreme, check. Twitter hugboxer, check. Leftist scumbag, check. The issue with Jason is that he's a very private person otherwise, yet his weight gain and increased bitchiness (even to his own fans) suggest there's something else going on with his life.

 

[Tequila Katie]

Was never anti car but being broke and getting around by foot or bike or what have you sure beats a few hundred bucks plus gas each month. Least if your young. Looking back to that time always makes me smile even if I groaned doing it back then.

 

[Corpun]

So many good points can be made:

• European "race" relations regarding gypsies.
• Why counties in Europe don't have birthright citizenship for illegal alien parents.
• The college experience in Europe vs US (especially with on campus students).
• Immigration and citizenship.
• The ease opening a business and the amount of regulation.
• Abortion regulations and how they were reached prior to Dobbs.

I know the shit with gypsies from countless interactions with Euros online (Even Euro redditors hate those people), but what is the stuff with college and shit. I assume it's more rigid or something and not an actual free ride Americans like to fetishize it as and also isn't made for partying 24/7 like most Americans assume college is for.

 

[LaxerBRO]

I know the shit with gypsies from countless interactions with Euros online (Even Euro redditors hate those people), but what is the stuff with college and shit. I assume it's more rigid or something and not an actual free ride Americans like to fetishize it as and also isn't made for partying 24/7 like most Americans assume college is for.

Pardon,

But does Europe have high ed recreation centers for its students:

University Water Park

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American Football Stadium for a University

 

[DavidS877]

I know the shit with gypsies from countless interactions with Euros online (Even Euro redditors hate those people), but what is the stuff with college and shit. I assume it's more rigid or something and not an actual free ride Americans like to fetishize it as and also isn't made for partying 24/7 like most Americans assume college is for.

Pardon,

But does Europe have high ed recreation centers for its students:
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University Water Park

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There is plenty of college recreation in the US. Take UC Berkeley for example. You can protest the latest cause of the week. You can smoke pot. You can harass other students while protesting: https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/2...-people-using-campus-entrance-protest-racism/ You can go to Oakland and get mugged and/or shot by the local wildlife. What's not to like?

 

[Corpun]

Pardon,

But does Europe have high ed recreation centers for its students:
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University Water Park

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American Football Stadium for a University

Cool as those things are, I hold them partially to blame for how bloated the American University system is. All this shit costs money to maintain and upkeep, and every fucking school, even state schools, try to blow as much money as they possibly can of their annual budget on shit like this.

Universities need to be told to fuck off with this bullshit from the state and federal government if the government ever wants to resolve the student debt crisis, and this is coming from someone who despises government control and regulation. Of course, the government can also just end student loans so the free money to build all this shit vanishes.

Maybe I'm just a jealous pleb though because I don't even go to one of the universities my state is known for.

 

[quaawaa]

Cool as those things are, I hold them partially to blame for how bloated the American University system is. All this shit costs money to maintain and upkeep, and every fucking school, even state schools, try to blow as much money as they possibly can of their annual budget on shit like this.

The cost of those buildings is dwarfed by the cost of administrators. I'd rather have a waterpark and a stadium than 1000 diversity commissars.

 

[Corpun]

The cost of those buildings is dwarfed by the cost of administrators. I'd rather have a waterpark and a stadium than 1000 diversity commissars.

Agreed but all this shit in universities is made to grift as much money from actual useful shit and programs to be given to higher-ups, bloated administrations, and said diversity commissars and their committees. Shit makes DC like an incorrupt system.