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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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I got invited to something similar a while back and I think it was called kiwi dating advice or something like that. Seemed like a bunch of shitposting and gossip, but I only stayed long enough to leave it
Amin Yasister
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Where does the $millions that Trump was fined go to?
What if he doesn't pay it?
What if he doesn't pay it?
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easy: illegals and nigger programs.
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Haley's campaign is so bizarre. She has no real republican support and tons of her financial support is from democrats.
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People are very good at ruining things, destroying instead of creating, etc.
Null had to get after people for avoiding and even bypassing the ignore/block function. Something that should not require a social experiment to observe.
If this forum stopped being a source of news about anything anywhere in the world I'd just stop intentionally looking for news to read whatsoever, I am tired of looking for trusted discussion about world events. Arguing is pointless, information is everything. If A&N survives the wave of shit from 2024-2028 (on top of everything else, no shit) I will be surprised.
Anyways, seeing Haley dig herself further in a way that would make Meatball blush has been entertaining. Surely, woman of the year.
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From what I've heard Stalin was hoping the Axis and Allies would go at it for a few years and wear themselves down as he kept selling shit to Germany at higher and higher prices, and then swoop in and "liberate" as much of Europe as he could. What he didn't expect was for France to collapse and then for Hitler to decide based upon the USSR's terrible showing during the Winter War that he could conquer the entire place in only a few months.
Unfortunately that's too sensible for nation-states and they always, always switch to "Why buy what you can just take for yourself?" in the end. You should know better than any of us about all of South America's wars over resources in the 1800's.
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A&N from KiwiFarms is the most trustworthy and best organized news agregator in the world.
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You mean the megathread before this one? If so that one was closed because it was becoming too slow and unwieldy for the mod tools used; it was coincidental that was closed at the same time the shit flinging was occurring. If there was a concerted effort to shut down the politsperging this megathread wouldn't even be a thing and any attempted remake would be killed before it reached a handful of posts.
mandatorylurk
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There were two separate group chat hugboxes back in 2020 on both sides, because the main thread was so filled up with trolling and pretending the election was legitimate and this was in that month before the TX vs. PA case was filed where sure, 17 of 18 bellweather counties went Trump but places totally have 110% turnout and boxes of ballots go 90-10 Joepedo. There was even one point during the GA voter fruad hearing they said the security cam video Rudy showed in Atlanta of them recounting and running the same ballots was akshually from a different date, when it was clearly timestamped. Then January 6th happened and everyone laughed while a handful thought it was 9/11 times a million.
Now we just have the Virgin Donald Trump lolcow thread vs. the Chad US Politics thread.
Now we just have the Virgin Donald Trump lolcow thread vs. the Chad US Politics thread.
Benjamin Matlock
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I'm on Adam Schiff's mailing list for some unknown reason, I stay on it because it's hilarious. He sends out anywhere from 2-4 emails per day as part of his Senate campaign and this is easily the most pathetic one in the top 10 most pathetic emails he's sent so far.
There's more to it but I don't want to spam a bunch of images. I have no insightful commentary, just wanted to share because I found it funny.
There's more to it but I don't want to spam a bunch of images. I have no insightful commentary, just wanted to share because I found it funny.
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I remember that, there was three or four different threads at the start until they merged.
mandatorylurk
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That Shifty Schiff e-mail that reads a lot like that retarded PawTUS twitter handle that pretended they were the abused german sheperds Joepedo maliciously hurt all the time. It wouldn't surprise me his gay team was behind that.
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My own schizo theory is that actually Commander is a good boy and a nice dog, the reason it was attacking people was because Biden's dementia was making the Big Guy angry and confused, and the dog knew this and saw weird people who would be coming out of nowhere and pestering his owner and making him angrier and trying to manhandle him so he attacked.
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And fools still stump and simp for him, shill for the uni-party, and slurp on the poison NATO cock.
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Various actual quotes from my father in parenthesis.
My father, who as sargent and an army paratrooper, was one of the first to land on Incheon, fought the entire war to the end, fought in, and survived the Chosin reservoir campaign with just bad frostbite on both feet and one hand - and fought the rest of the war like that (Who was I gonna complain to? Everyone around me was dead).
He also collected quite a few scars from being shot (This wasn't like Vietnam where they send you home. They didn't have enough people to do the fighting so when we got shot they put a patch on us and kept putting us back out there until we died).
I've heard first hand from his war buddies who fought with him just how brutal he had to be, not only stories of shooting or blowing up Chinese and Koreans with grenades, but just how often the fighting devolved into close quarters combat and hand to hand and having to stab people to death, or in one instance, with his bare hands because the conditions they were fighting in were so freezing cold that often the handguns would malfunction and not fire.
I've also heard about one time he killed a squad of 12 year old chinese boys (They were throwing grenades at us! What the hell did you expect me to do?! It's not my fault the Chinese were putting kids into combat!) And in another instance, even two of his own soldiers when, they were dug in on a hill waiting to surprise a Korean patrol and two soldiers under his command panicked, jumped up and ran away giving away their position, which resulted in a brutal all night firefight instead of the surprise attack it was supposed to be. Apparently the next day when the two soldiers wandered back, my father shot each one right there while everyone turned a blind eye. (Zing! Zing! I fixed their wagons! You know how many god damn people I lost that night because of those two bozos?!).
I can keep going but there's no point. Suffice to say, I am eternally grateful that I have never even had to endure those kinds of conditions for a single day. I can't even fathom how someone can do that for three years. And trust me, I'm not trying to puff up my father because there's no love lost there. I had the kind of horrific and abusive childhood that they make TV movies about but on some level I still forgive him because I understand no one can go through that kind of machine and not come out the other end damaged. Or as a friend of mine put it, "Bro, for your father to go through all that and walk out alive, you don't have a choice but to become a psychopath. That's the only way you survive that".
I'd love for you to stand in front of him and so you could tell him what cucks the army was in Korea. He'd get a kick out of it.
Honestly, just based on his experience I've never talked shit about any branch of the armed services (even the air force) because war is brutal for everyone involved. He never talked shit about the other branches, ether. But I guess once you've been through hell, you have a different perspective on everything.
I guess this was really just a long winded way to say that you really shouldn't tell third hand stories and armchair quarterback over things you clearly have no clue about.
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sorry your father went through that. I feel bad that anyone would be forced to do such things. Im also sorry you had to go through whatever that kind of experience put you through as a kid.
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It's 'Sergeant' and 'Army' is capitalized, no matter the county. We could argue about paratrooper, but it's evident you don't know shit. If your father was in Korea, how the fuck old are you, ya fucking' Boomer?
That's a lot of words, when you made two egregious errors in your first sentence while you were literally shaking with rage, so it must bother you that I ain't readin' them.
It's not third hand story, it's in the histories of the period. Get your library card warmed up. No power-leveling, but taught military history at one point to military personnel. No one said the Army were cucks, they just weren't effective as the Marine Corps.
"Do not attack the First Marine Division. Leave the yellowlegs alone. Strike the American Army." - Orders given to Communist troops in the Korean War; shortly afterward, the Marines were ordered to not wear their khaki leggings.
Do a search for the above, faggot.
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mandatorylurk
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I had a great-uncle who fought in Korea who talked about how it fucked him up with crowds for the rest of his life, because he was killing so many chynese who were just running out as cannon fodder and all they needed to do was get past one point in the line, because you weren't going to then aim 90 degrees into your own men. The disregard for human life really stuck with him and I completely understood why he hated the chinese before it was cool to do so.
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What an interesting article that just happened to come out on President's Day. Biden's great great grandpa tried to kill a guy and got pardoned by Lincoln.
Every new president selects personalized Oval Office decor to suit his tastes and pay homage to admired predecessors. President Biden’s Oval Office boasts both a portrait and a bust of Abraham Lincoln. But his family’s connection to the 16th president extends far beyond workplace ornamentation.
It dates to a late-night brawl during the Civil War.
On the evening of March 21, 1864, the quiet of a small corner of the Army of the Potomac’s sprawling winter camp along the Rappahannock River near Beverly Ford, Va., was disturbed when a fight broke out in one of the mess tents between Union Army civilian employees Moses J. Robinette and John J. Alexander.
The scuffle left Alexander bleeding from knife wounds, and Robinette was charged with attempted murder and incarcerated on a remote island near modern-day Florida. It would also cause an unexpected intersection in the histories of two American presidents, Lincoln and Biden — a story that has waited 160 years to be told.
Robinette, who received a pardon from Lincoln, was Biden’s great-great-grandfather.
Joseph Robinette Biden’s ancestral line has long been established and lists Moses J. Robinette among his paternal ancestors hailing from western Maryland, but very little has ever been chronicled about the man. Robinette’s court-martial records, discovered at the National Archives in Washington, show how the current president’s story is intertwined with that of the man who was president at the most perilous junction in U.S. history.
In 1861, Robinette was 42, married and running a hotel near the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad junction at Grafton, Va. Union sentiments ran high in Virginia’s mountainous western counties, which soon broke off to form the new state of West Virginia. As the nation lurched toward armed conflict that spring, smoldering resentments against Virginia’s politically dominant slaveholding elite flared into open defiance after northwestern delegates tried to block the secession movement and were expelled from the Virginia Convention.
Western Virginia became an early battleground as both sides fought to control the railroad. Union troops occupied Grafton in mid-June 1861 and drove Confederate forces out of the region within six months. The Robinette family suffered setbacks in the war’s early years: Moses’s wife, Jane, died, and his hotel was destroyed, allegedly by Union soldiers. Seeking safety for his youngest surviving children, Robinette appears to have left Virginia and returned to his extended family in Allegany County, Md.
Robinette was hired as a civilian veterinary surgeon by the U.S. Army Quartermaster’s Department in late 1862 or early 1863. He was assigned to the Army of the Potomac’s reserve artillery and tasked with keeping healthy the horses and mules that pulled the ammunition wagons. His qualifications for the position, as someone without formal medical training, were unstated, but such an appointment was not unusual in Civil War armies. Few veterinary colleges existed outside Europe in the 19th century, and Congress refused to authorize the creation of an official army veterinary corps until the First World War.
On that March evening near Beverly Ford, Alexander, a brigade wagon master, overheard Robinette saying something about him to the female cook and rushed into the mess shanty to demand an explanation. Tempers flared, expletives followed, and Robinette drew his pocketknife. A brief scuffle left Alexander bleeding from several cuts before camp watchmen arrived to arrest Robinette.
Nearly a month passed before Robinette’s military trial began. The charges specified that he had become intoxicated and incited “a dangerous quarrel,” violating good order and military discipline. Because a drawn weapon was involved, assault with “attempt to kill” was included among the charges.
Witnesses described Robinette as “full of fun, always lively and joking,” and testimony varied on whether either man had consumed alcohol before the fight broke out.
According to the trial transcript, Robinette stated in closing “that whatever I have done was done in self defence, that I had no malice towards Mr. Alexander before or since. He grabbed me and possibly might have injured me seriously had I not resorted to the means that I did.”
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The military judges were not convinced. The next day, they rendered a unanimous verdict: guilty on all counts with the exception of “attempt to kill.” The punishment was two years’ incarceration at hard labor.
After his conviction, Robinette again had to wait nearly three months for his case to churn through the army’s bureaucratic channels. Occupied by active military operations, the commander of the Army of the Potomac, Gen. George G. Meade, did not confirm Robinette’s sentence until early July, when he was sent to the Dry Tortugas islands near Key West, Fla.
The islands were home to Fort Jefferson, a giant brick structure designed to protect the southern coast and Gulf of Mexico shipping lanes. The massive increase in U.S. forces needed to fight the Civil War correspondingly ballooned the number of military trials and convictions. When mainland prison space ran short, Fort Jefferson became a military prison, one described by Lincoln’s opponents as “American Siberia.” When Robinette disembarked there, the growing prison population numbered more than 700.
Around the time Robinette arrived on Dry Tortugas, three army officers who knew him petitioned Lincoln to overturn his conviction. John S. Burdett, David L. Smith and Samuel R. Steel wrote that Robinette’s sentence was unduly harsh for “defending himself and cutting with a Penknife a Teamster much his superior in strength and Size, all under the impulse of the excitement of the moment.”
They testified that Robinette had, from the outbreak of the war, been “ardent, and Influential … in opposing Traitors and their schemes to destroy the Government.”
The letter concluded with an emotional flourish: “Think of his motherless Daughters and sons at home! … [Praying for] your interposition in behalf of the unfortunate Father … and distressed family of loved Children, Union Daughters & Union Sons.”
The missive did not go straight to the White House, but first landed on the desk of Waitman T. Willey, a newly elected senator from the recently admitted state of West Virginia. He endorsed the plea, calling Robinette’s punishment “a hard sentence on the case as stated.” Lincoln’s private secretary, John G. Nicolay, promptly requested that the judge advocate general, Joseph Holt, send over a report and the trial transcripts for presidential review.
Holt’s report arrived in late August, and Lincoln made his decision, writing, “Pardon for unexecuted part of punishment. A. Lincoln. Sep. 1. 1864.” Shortly thereafter, the War Department issued Special Orders No. 296, freeing Robinette from prison.
After more than a month on sweltering Dry Tortugas, Robinette returned to his family in Maryland, where he took up farming again. He lived into the 20th century, dying at his daughter’s home in 1903. While his brief obituary eulogized him as a “man of education and gentlemanly attainments,” no mention was made of his wartime court-martial or his fleeting connection to Abraham Lincoln.
But the slender sheaf of 22 well-preserved pages of his trial transcript, unobtrusively squeezed among many hundreds of other routine court-martial cases in the National Archives, reveals the hidden link between the two men — and between two presidents across the centuries. Those few pages not only fill in an unknown piece of Biden family history, but also serve as a reminder of just how many Civil War stories have yet to be told.
It dates to a late-night brawl during the Civil War.
On the evening of March 21, 1864, the quiet of a small corner of the Army of the Potomac’s sprawling winter camp along the Rappahannock River near Beverly Ford, Va., was disturbed when a fight broke out in one of the mess tents between Union Army civilian employees Moses J. Robinette and John J. Alexander.
The scuffle left Alexander bleeding from knife wounds, and Robinette was charged with attempted murder and incarcerated on a remote island near modern-day Florida. It would also cause an unexpected intersection in the histories of two American presidents, Lincoln and Biden — a story that has waited 160 years to be told.
Robinette, who received a pardon from Lincoln, was Biden’s great-great-grandfather.
Joseph Robinette Biden’s ancestral line has long been established and lists Moses J. Robinette among his paternal ancestors hailing from western Maryland, but very little has ever been chronicled about the man. Robinette’s court-martial records, discovered at the National Archives in Washington, show how the current president’s story is intertwined with that of the man who was president at the most perilous junction in U.S. history.
In 1861, Robinette was 42, married and running a hotel near the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad junction at Grafton, Va. Union sentiments ran high in Virginia’s mountainous western counties, which soon broke off to form the new state of West Virginia. As the nation lurched toward armed conflict that spring, smoldering resentments against Virginia’s politically dominant slaveholding elite flared into open defiance after northwestern delegates tried to block the secession movement and were expelled from the Virginia Convention.
Western Virginia became an early battleground as both sides fought to control the railroad. Union troops occupied Grafton in mid-June 1861 and drove Confederate forces out of the region within six months. The Robinette family suffered setbacks in the war’s early years: Moses’s wife, Jane, died, and his hotel was destroyed, allegedly by Union soldiers. Seeking safety for his youngest surviving children, Robinette appears to have left Virginia and returned to his extended family in Allegany County, Md.
Robinette was hired as a civilian veterinary surgeon by the U.S. Army Quartermaster’s Department in late 1862 or early 1863. He was assigned to the Army of the Potomac’s reserve artillery and tasked with keeping healthy the horses and mules that pulled the ammunition wagons. His qualifications for the position, as someone without formal medical training, were unstated, but such an appointment was not unusual in Civil War armies. Few veterinary colleges existed outside Europe in the 19th century, and Congress refused to authorize the creation of an official army veterinary corps until the First World War.
On that March evening near Beverly Ford, Alexander, a brigade wagon master, overheard Robinette saying something about him to the female cook and rushed into the mess shanty to demand an explanation. Tempers flared, expletives followed, and Robinette drew his pocketknife. A brief scuffle left Alexander bleeding from several cuts before camp watchmen arrived to arrest Robinette.
Nearly a month passed before Robinette’s military trial began. The charges specified that he had become intoxicated and incited “a dangerous quarrel,” violating good order and military discipline. Because a drawn weapon was involved, assault with “attempt to kill” was included among the charges.
Witnesses described Robinette as “full of fun, always lively and joking,” and testimony varied on whether either man had consumed alcohol before the fight broke out.
According to the trial transcript, Robinette stated in closing “that whatever I have done was done in self defence, that I had no malice towards Mr. Alexander before or since. He grabbed me and possibly might have injured me seriously had I not resorted to the means that I did.”
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The military judges were not convinced. The next day, they rendered a unanimous verdict: guilty on all counts with the exception of “attempt to kill.” The punishment was two years’ incarceration at hard labor.
After his conviction, Robinette again had to wait nearly three months for his case to churn through the army’s bureaucratic channels. Occupied by active military operations, the commander of the Army of the Potomac, Gen. George G. Meade, did not confirm Robinette’s sentence until early July, when he was sent to the Dry Tortugas islands near Key West, Fla.
The islands were home to Fort Jefferson, a giant brick structure designed to protect the southern coast and Gulf of Mexico shipping lanes. The massive increase in U.S. forces needed to fight the Civil War correspondingly ballooned the number of military trials and convictions. When mainland prison space ran short, Fort Jefferson became a military prison, one described by Lincoln’s opponents as “American Siberia.” When Robinette disembarked there, the growing prison population numbered more than 700.
Around the time Robinette arrived on Dry Tortugas, three army officers who knew him petitioned Lincoln to overturn his conviction. John S. Burdett, David L. Smith and Samuel R. Steel wrote that Robinette’s sentence was unduly harsh for “defending himself and cutting with a Penknife a Teamster much his superior in strength and Size, all under the impulse of the excitement of the moment.”
They testified that Robinette had, from the outbreak of the war, been “ardent, and Influential … in opposing Traitors and their schemes to destroy the Government.”
The letter concluded with an emotional flourish: “Think of his motherless Daughters and sons at home! … [Praying for] your interposition in behalf of the unfortunate Father … and distressed family of loved Children, Union Daughters & Union Sons.”
The missive did not go straight to the White House, but first landed on the desk of Waitman T. Willey, a newly elected senator from the recently admitted state of West Virginia. He endorsed the plea, calling Robinette’s punishment “a hard sentence on the case as stated.” Lincoln’s private secretary, John G. Nicolay, promptly requested that the judge advocate general, Joseph Holt, send over a report and the trial transcripts for presidential review.
Holt’s report arrived in late August, and Lincoln made his decision, writing, “Pardon for unexecuted part of punishment. A. Lincoln. Sep. 1. 1864.” Shortly thereafter, the War Department issued Special Orders No. 296, freeing Robinette from prison.
After more than a month on sweltering Dry Tortugas, Robinette returned to his family in Maryland, where he took up farming again. He lived into the 20th century, dying at his daughter’s home in 1903. While his brief obituary eulogized him as a “man of education and gentlemanly attainments,” no mention was made of his wartime court-martial or his fleeting connection to Abraham Lincoln.
But the slender sheaf of 22 well-preserved pages of his trial transcript, unobtrusively squeezed among many hundreds of other routine court-martial cases in the National Archives, reveals the hidden link between the two men — and between two presidents across the centuries. Those few pages not only fill in an unknown piece of Biden family history, but also serve as a reminder of just how many Civil War stories have yet to be told.
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Sekirodiealot
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I think obama does have scandals but the media likes to pretend they don't exist
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