Vaush / @VaushV / VaushVidya / IrishLaddie / Ian Anthony Kochinski - Horse Cock Enthusiast, Larpy Violent Revolutionary, Sex Pest, in his 100th pedo scandal

I'd just like to point out that he combed his hair and put on a clean shirt for this. In every video I've seen of this guy, he looks disheveled and slovenly. The hours leading up to this presentation probably looked a lot like his goblin wife was getting a small child ready to attend a funeral.
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mm calling someone pedo over clipped videos to discredit his political opinion & commentary career might be a strawman
or is that ad hominem?
In all fairness to your take and to try to break this down with as much civility as possible, because I could see how a 3rd party onlooker might think that...

I do think it's fair to state that it's perhaps an exaggeration and character assassination to focus on the porn folder as the worst thing ever that he deserves to be canceled over. I, cynically, believe that quite a lot of people have something in their porn folder they could be canceled over, so it's not quite fair to act like this is all just a Vaush problem. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," and that effectively means that all of us have to question if we've truly never caught ourselves going "wtf is wrong with me and why did that turn me on" while browsing porn, which hey, be careful if you dare claim it's never happened to you. And fortunately, most of us don't ever act on some of the weirder shit we may have liked.

HOWEVER!

What perhaps isn't being discussed as much as it should be, is that the real controversy is not the porn folder itself, but rather previous (and current) statements made by Vaush that are honestly way worse than the porn folder.

When Vaush comes out claiming "no you don't understand, I want to fuck a woman as a horse," as if that makes it better or clarifies shit for us, then yes he seems incredibly out of touch with how the rest of us would treat our own weirdest kink. I'd bet money there are people who like the drawings just like Vaush does, but they would still look at his comments about it, his relentless desire to discuss horse cock and how passionate he is about them and still think "vaush wtf is wrong with you?" It is not normal for someone to insert horse cocks into so many discussions out of the blue like vaush has.

And likewise, the entire nation of Japan has a questionable relationship with loli stuff, but I'm unaware of any statistical anomalies suggesting this negatively impacts sexuality within Japan. (though to be fair, Japan itself is a can of worms for statistics, and you often can't rely on their stats because their society of shame will function in such a way that naturally downplays all of their problem stats. Completely understand the side who would insist that we need more investigation into the impact it has on the culture)

But once again, right when you think that might exonerate Vaush, he's out here saying "I think a sexual relationship between an adult and a minor could be beneficial for a minor." In what universe is this ever a forgivable statement? That is pedophilia, plain and simple. The entire reason we shun it is BECAUSE of how damaging that is to the minor in question, yet Vaush is out here doing his dipshit "well akshually" stance to ACTUALLY TRY AND ARGUE THIS CAN BE GOOD FOR THE CHILD.

Basically, with Vaush, it's less about the porn itself, and more about seeing a guy that made those statements in the past have an entire stash dedicated to those themes is rather alarming, and makes you question if it's safe to leave him alone in a room with either a horse or a child...and god help us if that man is ever alone with a baby foal. We are not seeing exaggerations to purposefully character assassinate Vaush, but rather we are seeing a hyper-fixation on the porn folder that leaves out the other details that Vaush should be held accountable for, because the moment you include those, there's no excusing them.

Before the porn folder...? People probably told themselves "it's okay, he's just an idiot. He was voicing some dipshit opinion about a topic he has little knowledge or care for and was probably just trying to be a contrarian, so even if it was stupid as hell, let's not waste our breath on him and just move on." But now with the porn folder, people are questioning how much was just "one random dipshit opinion in an attempt to come across as an intellectual contrarian" and instead we're wondering how likely this fucker would be to do something inappropriate to a horse or a child if you gave him the opportunity to.
 
I hate Vaush so much. He's such a disingenuous piece of shit.

While I'm not in love with the idea of hounding someone for looking at drawings, at least in this case it's poetic justice.
The problem is that it isn't just the drawings, it's all the other shit he said in the past and his frankly bizarre handling of the situation makes people think there is something up. And after suffering though his 2 hour video to end all videos on the drama, I'm legit thinking he absolutely has illegal images in that porn folder.
 
But once again, right when you think that might exonerate Vaush, he's out here saying "I think a sexual relationship between an adult and a minor could be beneficial for a minor." In what universe is this ever a forgivable statement? That is pedophilia, plain and simple.
and the literal next line is "but it is harmful in general as a rule". i find this a failure of rhetorics, not morality

to me, this thread is a textbook case of when one decides to kill someone and then retrospectively manufactures plausible reasons. same shit as denazification of ukraine by putin, murder of ernst rohm by hitler for being a homosexual
if it's safe to leave him alone in a room with either a horse or a child...and god help us if that man is ever alone with a baby foal.
no one should be in a room with him for the fact he is retarded, a hypocrite and spouts asinine takes w/ confindence. a grown up is at more harm by being influenced by him
 
and the literal next line is "but it is harmful in general as a rule". i find this a failure of rhetorics, not morality
The point is that he he stated in his argument that he thinks sexual relations between adults and minors could be beneficial for the minor. I know he said it is the minority of cases and he is still against it. But normal people would never make that statement because they (and myself) can't fathom a scenario that it would be beneficial at all. I'm curious on what examples he would pick as examples of beneficial outlire relationships.

Yeah, I don't see the appeal
I would love a short, mid functioning GF

Again, who is this video for?!
For his fans to link whenever Vaush gets accused of pedo shit. He is betting that the sheer size of the video would awe people onto thinking that it is all addressed and because it's so long he is hoping that they would be half paying attention to what he is saying while they play games or doze off so they don't realize he is dancing around the core problem (the folder). As a bonus, if critics don't want to sit though the whole video then now he has evidence that they are arguing in "bad faith".
 
I'd just like to point out that he combed his hair and put on a clean shirt for this. In every video I've seen of this guy, he looks disheveled and slovenly. The hours leading up to this presentation probably looked a lot like his goblin wife was getting a small child ready to attend a funeral.
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His wife is really more cave troll than goblin…
Maybe that’s why he yearns for the short stack gussy?
 
But normal people would never make that statement because they (and myself) can't fathom a scenario that it would be beneficial at all. I'm curious on what examples he would pick as examples of beneficial outlire relationships.
if we forced "normal" people to be on camera & yapp for hours, you'll def discover multiple quoteworthy gaffs. streamers freestyle continously & sometimes think out loud and trust me when i say this, the train of thought has an unreliable schedule
people are taking this as a freudian slip when it's not a slip at all. he spoke it conciously aware & sound

as to the examples, he alone can elaborate his theories. as a guess, he might be refering to groupies faking id to fuck rappers or a guy fucking his hot teacher or something
 
and the literal next line is "but it is harmful in general as a rule". i find this a failure of rhetorics, not morality

to me, this thread is a textbook case of when one decides to kill someone and then retrospectively manufactures plausible reasons. same shit as denazification of ukraine by putin, murder of ernst rohm by hitler for being a homosexual

no one should be in a room with him for the fact he is retarded, a hypocrite and spouts asinine takes w/ confindence. a grown up is at more harm by being influenced by him
Obvious Vaush fan is obvious. Your boy is a pedo. Deal with it.
 
Incidentally, did Vaush always have a pet lizard? Cuz I noticed one crawling around in the background of the video, in the area with the pink light.
 
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and the literal next line is "but it is harmful in general as a rule". i find this a failure of rhetorics, not morality
I gotta be honest, I don't follow the guy, and I'm really more shocked how it even took this porn folder leaking for people to cancel him. The statements he made on pedophilia in the past should've gotten him canceled long ago. Makes me wonder who the hell the people are that saw such streams and thought "yeah this guy seems legit, I should support him." WTF happened that he ever survived those statements before...?
 
By the way, did he even say who this video is for?

I'm pretty sure nobody asked for context. Everyone pretty much has their minds made up because of how cut-and-dry everything is. Adding any context, let alone 1 hour and 40 minutes of doesn't really do anything useful except give people even more ammunition and opportunity to find inconsistencies. Plus the fact that he, on several occasions, acknowledges how useless it is to say anything at this point.

Again, who is this video for?!
The video is for his cultists to point to when defending him. 'You are arguing in bad faith sweaty chud, ignored until you watch this 100 minute video. Ignored after too btw :smug: '
 
Where's that horse that fucked Mr Hands to death?

He might have a new (horrifying) duty to perform...
I know this is a joke but the horse in that killed Kenneth Pinyan (which may or may not be the one in the infamous video which was not of that particular fatal incident) has probably been dead from age related issues OR was euthanized closer to 2005. Not sure how old the horse was in 2005 though.

I say "euthanized" because in that documentary Zoo (which I watched because I thought it would be Mr. Hands's biography and not the zoophile cope and seethe apologia fest it actually was) a horse trainer who oversaw the care of the stallion that killed Pinyan said he was gelded and was exhibiting behavioral issues. Animals that are sexually abused very commonly end up put to sleep because they develop severe behavioral issues that can't be reversed. I also remember one of the zoos in the doc coping and seething that the trainer (a woman) didn't know anything about horses and didn't understand them like the zoos did.
 
Harmful Opinions made a follow up vid going over Vaush's response video.
It is delicious irony. You don't even need to refute the video's content because Vaush has no reason to even make an unbiased self-assessment. He gains nothing for it and will adjust how much "context" he desires to keep his image as untarnished as he possibly can. It's not like anyone is holding a gun to his head telling him otherwise.

Vaush has made a name for himself repeatedly accusing people of being Nazis and Pedos on a whim, is now asking the people watching to give him the extreme benefit of the doubt in regards to all his pornographic proclivities and all his past clips/messages sent. This is the type of benefit of the doubt he would never--and has never--given to any the people he debates or covers. And then having to tard wrangle all these people who are defending him is just icing on the cake.
 
I say "euthanized" because in that documentary Zoo (which I watched because I thought it would be Mr. Hands's biography and not the zoophile cope and seethe apologia fest it actually was) a horse trainer who oversaw the care of the stallion that killed Pinyan said he was gelded and was exhibiting behavioral issues. Animals that are sexually abused very commonly end up put to sleep because they develop severe behavioral issues that can't be reversed. I also remember one of the zoos in the doc coping and seething that the trainer (a woman) didn't know anything about horses and didn't understand them like the zoos did.
This fact of the effects of beastiality is both horribly depressing that we have the data for it, and also extremely damning of all fuckin zoos who claim there's nothing wrong with it.

They look down their noses in self assurance that they're not bad people but Jesus fuck don't fuck kids or animals shouldn't be a hard bar to surpass.
 
He was just being an edge lord! Just because he constantly talks about horse dicks and wanting to be fucked with horse dicks doesn't mean he actually means it!
He's admitted that he's into beastiality, his excuse being he "imagines himself as the animal". The folder leak from last week was just the tip of the iceberg imo, those pics are what he hadn't sorted. He has a decade long history of this, god only knows what's on that hard drive. It's fucking revolting, I can't imagine how anyone takes him seriously.
 
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